Rockinon Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Can you imagine getting 2 in the first rounds?
Stl Bills Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 I was just about to post the same thing. This draft is loaded with talent on the D-line. I wouldn't mind grabbing two D-lineman back to back.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 I was just about to post the same thing. This draft is loaded with talent on the D-line. I wouldn't mind grabbing two D-lineman back to back. The more I see of him, the more I want J.J. Watt in a Bills uniform next season. Perfect 3-4 defensive end.
Rockinon Posted February 28, 2011 Author Posted February 28, 2011 The more I see of him, the more I want J.J. Watt in a Bills uniform next season. Perfect 3-4 defensive end. Yea, if he is there at #34. Two big DEs would really make all of our LBs look better. I'd still like to get an ILB somewhere.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Yea, if he is there at #34. Two big DEs would really make all of our LBs look better. I'd still like to get an ILB somewhere. JJ Watt definitely won't be there at #34, but Adrian Clayborn or Cam Heyward might be. I'd love to draft Dareus at #3, one of those guys at #34, and then Colin McCarthy or Kelvin Sheppard in the 3rd or 4th round.
High Mark Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Can you imagine getting 2 in the first rounds? I dream of it every night. I really hope we can trade back in the 1st, and add another 2nd so that we can add 2 DL guys and an OT, or even 3 DL guys. Mmmmmmmm.......
OldTimer1960 Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 I'd prefer to pass on Nick Fairley, though. He has only produced for 1 year, has some character concerns and was very good, but hot super at the combine. No thanks.
hooper Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 With the BILLS in desperate need of a big old DT, who do you look at from history's past to point at and say this is why we should take a DT 1st round, and who compares to that player in this years draft??? Have fun with this one...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 With the BILLS in desperate need of a big old DT, who do you look at from history's past to point at and say this is why we should take a DT 1st round, and who compares to that player in this years draft??? Have fun with this one... I don't know that they need a "big old DT" in round 1. Kyle Williams is pretty good and they spent an early #2 on Torrel Troup last year (and he should be much better next year). If they draft a DT in round 1, it will necessarily push Williams to the bench or put him out of position at DE and keep Troup on the bench. From an investment perspective, I can't see a team being able to have a #1 and #2 pick at NT.
High Mark Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 I don't know that they need a "big old DT" in round 1. Kyle Williams is pretty good and they spent an early #2 on Torrel Troup last year (and he should be much better next year). If they draft a DT in round 1, it will necessarily push Williams to the bench or put him out of position at DE and keep Troup on the bench. From an investment perspective, I can't see a team being able to have a #1 and #2 pick at NT. I disagree. Just because Troupe is a year older, doesnt mean its a given he improves. I also think that you need at least 2 guys at NG, and just because he isnt the starter doesnt mean he wont play. I also want to move KW to end where I think he fits better, so we could improve DE by adding a NG.
OldTimer1960 Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 I disagree. Just because Troupe is a year older, doesnt mean its a given he improves. I also think that you need at least 2 guys at NG, and just because he isnt the starter doesnt mean he wont play. I also want to move KW to end where I think he fits better, so we could improve DE by adding a NG. You may be right, but I have a hard time believing that 6'1 1/2" Williams is the answer at 3-4 DE, when teams are looking for DEs that are 6'4"+. I also think that there is no reason to believe that Troup won't improve in his second year. Plus a #1 pick and a #2 pick at NT is going to be hard to support in terms of roster composition. I think that Williams has SOME chance to succeed at DE, but I think that is questionable - just my $.02 worth though.
bills1960 Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 And this is why there is no reason to waste a pick on Newton or Miller. Get one of these huge, run stuffing D Linemen while we can. Why is it they we avoid these type of players every year?
OldTimer1960 Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 (edited) Stay away from Fairley IMHO. He looks wimpy compared to many of the other DL and he really has some questions to answer in terms of why he only produced for 1 year. He doesn't look like he has worked very hard in preparation for the combine (at least to me). While I would prefer a DL over a LB, I think Von Miller is a safer pick if Dareus or Bowers isn't available when the Bills pick. I MIGHT prefer Cam Jordan over Fairley at this point. Flame away... Edited March 1, 2011 by OldTimer1960
jumbalaya Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Here's a good summary...Some people on this board had us picking Dareus first then Martez Wilson. Looks like two great picks. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/02/28/combine.dl.lb/index.html?xid=si_nfl
Rockinon Posted March 1, 2011 Author Posted March 1, 2011 Here's a good summary...Some people on this board had us picking Dareus first then Martez Wilson. Looks like two great picks. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/02/28/combine.dl.lb/index.html?xid=si_nfl Good stuff. Quinn looks intriguing.
RuffMuff Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 I agree, even maybe a corner at 3 and then take a D-lineman at 34 and in FA. I think we have a ton of choices and the 3rd best lineman would be a mistake at 3.
hooper Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 Well Williams is a beast, he is not a pure NT, and we need that, regardless of what was drafted LAST year, we need big bodies to help spot the run (last against the run) so the BILLS will need to add some gerth to that line. If its DE fine, but even if we are depending on last years draft, we still need depth and a first round pick at DT wouldn't surprise me and it shouldn't surprise you.
Rockinon Posted March 1, 2011 Author Posted March 1, 2011 I disagree. Just because Troupe is a year older, doesnt mean its a given he improves. I also think that you need at least 2 guys at NG, and just because he isnt the starter doesnt mean he wont play. I also want to move KW to end where I think he fits better, so we could improve DE by adding a NG. Troupe and Williams. 1+1=2 nose guards. They'll be looking at big ol' DEs though.
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