BillsPhan Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) The Bills have had some awful QBs the last decade. Drew Bledsoe's short lived stint here was the franchise's most stable period at the most important position. So of the remainding claimants to the throne... Which was the best of a bad lot? Which was the worst of a rotten batch? 3. J.P. Lost-man - 2004 1st Round pick PLUS Bills traded for the rights to draft him. Absolutely zero pocket presence and horrible accuracy. 2. Trent Edwards - Bills only wasted a 3rd round pick on him, plus he had more good games then Lost-man had. Also zero pocket presence and no guts to hang in there and throw it down field. 1. Rob Johnson - Bills traded their 1998 1st round pick (ended up being 9 overall) for him. At least he lasted 4 years battling it out with Flutie for playing time. Biggest reason I rate him the best of the worst is because he made a nice comeback in the playoff game against the Titans that led to a Christie field goal with only 16 seconds left and the lead. Who knows how well or bad he may have played the following week in the Divisional playoffs if not for the "Music City Miraculous Forward Lateral" during those last 16 seconds!? Here's a Quick List of all the QB's who were "starters" the past 25 years (1986-2010 seasons) 1986-1996: Jim Kelly (Hall of Fame, played his entire career in the NFL for the Bills.) 1997: Todd Collins 1998-2000: Rob Johnson & Doug Flutie 2001: Rob Johnson & Kelly Holcomb 2002-2004: Drew Bledsoe 2005-2007: J.P. Lost-man & Trent Edwards 2008: Trent Edwards 2009-2010: Trent Edwards & Ryan Fitzpatrick 2011: Ryan Fitzpatrick & ??? (Newton, Gabbert, Mallett, or Locker - I hope?) Edited February 28, 2011 by BillsPhan
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Drew Bledsoe... He was a "top tier" QB that did not do much better that the nobodies that are JP, RJ and Trent
Bill from NYC Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 JP set the team back the most. Drafting JP cost the Bills shots at Rodgers & Cutler. In Rodgers' case, the Bills would have had the pick to use on Rodgers if they hadn't traded it away for JP. In Cutler's case, the Bills chose to draft Whitner at pick 8 with Cutler on the board because they were committed to starting JP. Also, if the Bills had confidence in JP, they never would have drafted Trent in 2007. Since without JP's shaky status, there's no Trent, JP trumps Trent. The reason Rob isn't even in the running is because, with the exception of his final season, the Bills could always turn to Flutie, so Rob wasn't ruining the franchise. Clearly, in terms of setting the team back the most, JP towers over the others. I agree, and would add that it also cost us a 2nd and a 5th to take Losman.
BuffaloBill Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Trent was the worse of the worst!!! He showed the most promise but was never the same after the concussion. I don't say this in the sense there were lingering physical symptoms from the hit. I think he lost motivation to play a tough game.
billsfreak Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 If Rob could have stayed healthy, he probably would have had a decent career with Buffalo. I didn't realize he had a injury history, he must have got hit in the head with his surfboard. As far as I can remember he was healthy, just got beat out and drastically outplayed by Doug Flutie. I would say if a scout was to pick one just on physical ability without knowing anything else about them, he would pick Losman, who had the mobility and a cannon arm. If they went by an intelligent factor, probably Edwards. If they went by who got out of town the quickest after the game and who had the most blond streaks in his hair it would have been Johnson.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 From worst to best Robbery J JP Lost man Trent Edwards ------------ I'll bet people love Tom Brady and his 5-yard check down passes
White Linen Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 The Bills have had some awful QBs the last decade. Drew Bledsoe's short lived stint here was the franchise's most stable period at the most important position. So of the remainding claimants to the throne... Which was the best of a bad lot? Which was the worst of a rotten batch? I wouldn't call Bledsoe's time here stable. He had a half a year that was outstanding. In my opinion Flutie was what stabilized the team and the franchise for that matter. I believe the Bills would no longer be in Buffalo if it weren't for him.
2003Contenders Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Trent, I'm convinced, developed anxiety after the first concussion (adrian wilson?). Even when given time he'd end up hitting his checkdown. It was almost as though he developed tunnel vision, a common effect of stress and anxiety, and had trouble seeing downfield. I think Trent's unraveling was a bit more complex than that with all of the following factors weighing in: 1. The 4-0 start in 2008 was a bit of a mirage -- as all 4 opponents were horrible. And, the team required late game comebacks to win 2 of those games. Still, Trent was being cited as an early-season MVP candidate. 2. Horrible coaching. That starts with Jauron, who for whatever reason didn't seem interested in preparing Edwards to face 3-4 defensive alignments, which was the exclusive formation for the rest of the division. 3 different coordinators in 3 years (each progressively less qualified than the previous one) didn't help. 3. Certainly, the severe concussion played a factor in Trent becoming somewhat gutless in the pocket. 4. Shortly after the concussion, Josh Reed also went down for several games. That left Lee Evans as the only WR option -- with the Bills desperately trying to get a disinterested James Hardy involved. I will never forget that infamous Monday night game against Cleveland, where Trent threw 2 or 3 early interceptions, stemming from him and his receivers not being on the same page. He lost confidence in them (and himself) and started checking down to the RBs on almost every pass play. I remember Jaws at the time commenting how Trent was playing scared and that the Bills could not afford to continue to hide their QB by relying on the RBs so much. I believe that when Gailey took over, he saw the talent and smarts that Trent possessed -- and felt that he could correct the lost mojo that was further beaten down in 2009. However, after 2 games against live competition, Gailey realized that Trent's problems simply were not fixable.
loserlovers Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Ive been waiting for a thread like this....So heres my 3 cents.... Jp by far was the best of these three losers, Jp had the long ball like RJ but took fewer sacks and won more games, I felt he was getting better until Trent was looking over his shoulder and Dick was making him dump the ball off in his last few games. The real battle was between Trent and Rob...I couldnt figure out who I despised more, Rob was such a major douche ...taking sacks just to keep his rating up ...and even admiting it! But he did have balls, its just Rob truely was a moron, which isnt his fault, he was tall and had an arm but that was absolutely it. Note-I saw here some people said he played good in the tennesee playoff game...He was absolutely horrendous, had 98 yards passing, completed one pass in the first quarter for 9 yards, took several sacks, and only did well in the two minute drill at the end becuase it was against a prevent after he needed that entire game to warm up. Everyone says,"he had it won", NO! antowain smith had it won along with the defense. And finally Trent... he was absolutley the worst of the worst, he regresses down to a pop warner level player, had no balls to speak of, lived in denial, ruined two + seasons. Teased us with a 5-1 start whos success was due mainly to defenses not used to running backs catching passes (Losman never really threw to the RBs) Trent absolutely lead to the failure of this team for 3 years and a few more to come due to the fact he was horrible but hid it so well by always checking down. We could have had drafted a qb by now!
Homey D. Clown Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 I really wanted to put some thought into this, and it's a cool topic, but thinking about those 3 QBs made me constipated.
Bill from NYC Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Jp by far was the best of these three losers, Jp had the long ball like RJ but took fewer sacks and won more games, I felt he was getting better until Trent was looking over his shoulder and Dick was making him dump the ball off in his last few games. No way. I am thinking that he won the fewest starts of the 3. Trent definitely had more wins than Losman, which is sad.
Swift Sylvan Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 JP > Trent http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2006111905/2006/REG11/bills@texans/analyze/box-score http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2006112602/2006/REG12/jaguars@bills/analyze/box-score The first was a 300+ yrd game that JP won on an amazing throw to Peerless Price (Dauta Robinson complained about this and at the time people were offended he said JP sucked) The second was JP making clutch plays in back to back weeks.
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