Gene Frenkle Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt What she said. The smallest minds simply end the discussion with a 'No' when backed into a corner. I think that was the rest of the quote. Like I said, nowhere to go from there so I'm not even sure why you're still posting in this thread. Edited February 27, 2011 by Gene Frenkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) The smallest minds simply end the discussion with a 'No' when backed into a corner. I think that was the rest of the quote. Like I said, nowhere to go from there so I'm not even sure why you're still posting in this thread. Ah yes...that was the rest of the quote. Brilliantly played. Gene. Edited February 27, 2011 by Marauder24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 The answer is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Why would anyone want to remove him from the environment that encouraged him to develop such artistic talents....? Seems to me he has found his niche....and it only cost society one human life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Why would anyone want to remove him from the environment that encouraged him to develop such artistic talents....? Seems to me he has found his niche....and it only cost society one human life. I know you're making a joke, but this isn't really about what anyone wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 No mercy, none. The victim was not spared any. Fry and die. Its funny the left tries to show empethy all they way up till its their family. I've seen/heard it many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 I know you're making a joke, but this isn't really about what anyone wants. I know about everyone has chimed in and what are they basing their viewpoints on here? Has anyone here been to prison? If so, been to solitary confinement? Psych Watch? AdSeg? What about just simply checking in? It seems a little unfair to have an opinion about it until you have been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 I know about everyone has chimed in and what are they basing their viewpoints on here? Has anyone here been to prison? If so, been to solitary confinement? Psych Watch? AdSeg? What about just simply checking in? It seems a little unfair to have an opinion about it until you have been there. Do tours of Alcatraz count or are you going to hold our feet tot he fire and make us do hard time before we express an opinion? In that case, I might keep quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 I know about everyone has chimed in and what are they basing their viewpoints on here? Has anyone here been to prison? If so, been to solitary confinement? Psych Watch? AdSeg? What about just simply checking in? It seems a little unfair to have an opinion about it until you have been there. Good thing the threads not about capital punishment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 If the death penalty is not cruel and unusual punishment I find it hard to believe that this is because I would imagine had he preferred death it could have been arranged. And even if the state wouldn't do it, I'm sure with that much time on his hands he could find a way to 86 himself if he felt so inclined. I'm curious what the Frenklesque alternative would be. Presumably it would be to return him to the prison population, which begs the question, how many people do you get to kill before you are removed from said population? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 No mercy, none. The victim was not spared any. Fry and die. Its funny the left tries to show empethy all they way up till its their family. I've seen/heard it many times. How incredibly ironic that you can't even spell empathy. It's not about empathy or making you feel good. It's about upholding the Constitution. If the death penalty is not cruel and unusual punishment I find it hard to believe that this is because I would imagine had he preferred death it could have been arranged. And even if the state wouldn't do it, I'm sure with that much time on his hands he could find a way to 86 himself if he felt so inclined. I'm curious what the Frenklesque alternative would be. Presumably it would be to return him to the prison population, which begs the question, how many people do you get to kill before you are removed from said population? Well, if he kills himself then he goes straight to Hell, so that's obviously out. Yes, the death penalty is not cruel and unusual IMO. It's much less of a burden on the taxpayers as well. Violent criminals should not be coddled, but their inalienable rights should be upheld. I know that's just a Frenklesque bleeding-heart libitard concept. It seems to me that many of you are only interested in upholding the Constitution when it's convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Yes, the death penalty is not cruel and unusual IMO. It's much less of a burden on the taxpayers as well. Violent criminals should not be coddled, but their inalienable rights should be upheld. I know that's just a Frenklesque bleeding-heart libitard concept. It seems to me that many of you are only interested in upholding the Constitution when it's convenient. It ain't unusual, for sure. Cruel...depends on how it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Fine, tape player. Though I don't know what's wrong with an MP3 player. CDs I can understand... A pretty decent weapon can be made out of a tape cassette, and a handy garrote, with plenty of tape left over to create a trip line ambush to boot. Basically, a cassette in jail, closed in spaces where nobody looks down, is murder in a box. Flat out deadly weapons can be made with CDs. Never mind, you can pass hidden info with both of these formats. Can't do schit with an MP3 player if you only allow it to d/l music and you control the ISP...so yeah, WTF is this about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Well, if he kills himself then he goes straight to Hell, so that's obviously out. Yes, the death penalty is not cruel and unusual IMO. It's much less of a burden on the taxpayers as well. Violent criminals should not be coddled, but their inalienable rights should be upheld. I know that's just a Frenklesque bleeding-heart libitard concept. It seems to me that many of you are only interested in upholding the Constitution when it's convenient. I must have struck a nerve. I was genuinely curious what your alternative is. I don't find this to be cruel and unusual punishment, thus negating your idea of selective constitutional application, but you do. Therefore, I am curious how you think this should be handled, which you have yet to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 It's not about empathy or making you feel good. It's about upholding the Constitution. . Tell that to the victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I recall when Jusin Volpe got thirty years in the state pen for the Abner Luima assault and the mindless were screaming "that isnt punishment enough!!!!!" YOU go sit in solitary (becuase hes a cop, he wont be in gen pop) for thirty !@#$ing years. Nooooot exactly a weekend at Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I recall when Jusin Volpe got thirty years in the state pen for the Abner Luima assault and the mindless were screaming "that isnt punishment enough!!!!!" YOU go sit in solitary (becuase hes a cop, he wont be in gen pop) for thirty !@#$ing years. Nooooot exactly a weekend at Disney. I'd say he got what he deserved. On Aug. 9, 1997, more than three years into Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani’s first term, a 30-year-old Haitian immigrant named Abner Louima was arrested and brutalized by a white police officer inside the restroom of the 70th Precinct station house in Brooklyn. The attack became a national symbol of police brutality and fed perceptions that white police officers in New York were harassing or abusing young black men as part of a citywide crackdown on crime. One officer, Justin A. Volpe, admitted in court in May 1999 that he had rammed a broken broomstick into Mr. Louima’s rectum, and then had thrust it in his face. He said he had mistakenly believed that Mr. Louima had punched him in the head during a street brawl outside a nightclub, but he acknowledged that he had also intended to humiliate the handcuffed immigrant. He left the force and was later sentenced to 30 years in prison. The commanders of the 70th Precinct were replaced within days of the assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I'd say he got what he deserved. No question about it, for the assault and the damage he did to the NYPD's rep (and all the ammo he gave the cop-hating left wing). But RK's point is valid; I don't recall Jim or Gene get all broken up about Volpe's perdicament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Oh, he DEFINTIELY got what was coming to him, Volpe did. Im more trying to illustrate how people when all in a righteous rage dont stop to think what these punishments really entail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 No question about it, for the assault and the damage he did to the NYPD's rep (and all the ammo he gave the cop-hating left wing). But RK's point is valid; I don't recall Jim or Gene get all broken up about Volpe's perdicament. Gotcha. I misunderstood RK's post. Oh, he DEFINTIELY got what was coming to him, Volpe did. Im more trying to illustrate how people when all in a righteous rage dont stop to think what these punishments really entail. See above. sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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