Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/24/dolphins-franchise-paul-soliai/ Soliai’s agent, David Canter, told the Sun-Sentinel that Soliai wants to stay in Miami and would have been willing to get a deal done sooner if it weren’t for the 30 percent rule. “We want to be here. We’ve said it day in and day out. We want to be here,” Canter said. “As long as everything works out and there’s a new CBA, we can negotiate in good faith without the limitations of the 30 percent rule. We’re going to give the Miami Dolphins as fair a shot as they would have ever hoped to get.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/24/dolphins-franchise-paul-soliai/ Not a surprise. So many sad bills fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 That sucks. I wanted him then I our DLine would be set and we wouldnt have to do anything in the draft: NT: Solai backed up by Troupe RDE: Edwards backed by Carrington LDE: Williams backed by Kelsay Very capable 3-4 line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I don't think he's worth top five money. So let the Fish lose all that cap room. He had one decent year out of four. He wasn't dominant and the Fish gave up a lot of yards rushing with him in the middle. So I'm not losing any sleep over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Why in the heck would anybody want Troupe backing up.....you drafted in the 2nd round for crying out loud..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I don't think he's worth top five money. So let the Fish lose all that cap room. He had one decent year out of four. He wasn't dominant and the Fish gave up a lot of yards rushing with him in the middle. So I'm not losing any sleep over it. Well I'm not losing sleep over it since I didn't think it all that likely we could pry him away. But as to paying him top 5 money... It's a risk no doubt, but he has improved over time and was very good last year. Was it a payday year, or has he just gotten better? Shrug. Don't know the guy. But let me make it clear I'd LOVE to have him on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Well I'm not losing sleep over it since I didn't think it all that likely we could pry him away. But as to paying him top 5 money... It's a risk no doubt, but he has improved over time and was very good last year. Was it a payday year, or has he just gotten better? Shrug. Don't know the guy. But let me make it clear I'd LOVE to have him on our team. top 5 for 1 year is not a huge risk, top 5 for 5 years with a top 5 signing bonus is risky as hell with a guy like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Ok, so trade our 1st for Soliali and the 15th pick and call it a deal. Im cool with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Pass on paying him top-5 money for a long-term deal. Let Miami do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Why in the heck would anybody want Troupe backing up.....you drafted in the 2nd round for crying out loud..... Troupe is a little undersized. This will give him time to develop further. It's taken Soliai 4 years to gel. We can also put Williams back to his proper role of end in a 3-4. Also, gives us many options to play the 3-4/4-3 hyrbid that Gailey wants. Williams - Soliai - Troupe - Edwards/Carrington/Kelsay would be very effective. Lastly frees up our defensive drafting to focus on the most important thing in 3-4: linebackers, something we're in great need of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 That sucks. I wanted him then I our DLine would be set and we wouldnt have to do anything in the draft: NT: Solai backed up by Troupe RDE: Edwards backed by Carrington LDE: Williams backed by Kelsay Very capable 3-4 line. Your lineup is missing a great pass rusher. Solai is the type of signing that would get more that he is actually worth. A very good player that will get great player money. Lets draft a few great players and grow our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) Steelers dont have a great pass rusher on the Dline, nor do Jets. We got spoiled with Bruce thinking 3-4 DE's put up 15 sacks a year. Pressure comes primarily from the LBs in a 3-4 scheme. Anyway, it doesn't matter, Fins resigned him Edited February 25, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 No need to fret. The fishies can eat his salary and there's a chance Soliai will sit and be lazy on his payday year. We can find another Samoan elsewhere. With Troup's desire to succeed he will improve and it's not like we won't find another NT in FA or in the draft. Make the most of what is at hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Troupe is a little undersized. This will give him time to develop further. It's taken Soliai 4 years to gel. We can also put Williams back to his proper role of end in a 3-4. Also, gives us many options to play the 3-4/4-3 hyrbid that Gailey wants. Williams - Soliai - Troupe - Edwards/Carrington/Kelsay would be very effective. Lastly frees up our defensive drafting to focus on the most important thing in 3-4: linebackers, something we're in great need of. Joe.....Torrel Troupe is definately not undersized. Keep in mind that he LOST weight to get where he is at which is probably around 330 right now. I just dont think that is a smart use of draft pick.......if we want a DT there will be some good ones available with our 2nd pick...... 3rd pick - Cam Newton ir Quinn 2nd round pick - Phil Taylor We cant be giving away picks because we havent drafted well in the past....what we need to do is draft well ourselves.....keep our own players.....and bring in a couple of key free agents that we dont have to give picks for JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 top 5 for 1 year is not a huge risk, top 5 for 5 years with a top 5 signing bonus is risky as hell with a guy like that. True 'dat. I wouldn't be willing to throw that much coin at him. Too much for too long for too much risk. But what a d-line we'd have. Then we could draft some LBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Joe.....Torrel Troupe is definately not undersized. Keep in mind that he LOST weight to get where he is at which is probably around 330 right now. I just dont think that is a smart use of draft pick.......if we want a DT there will be some good ones available with our 2nd pick...... 3rd pick - Cam Newton ir Quinn 2nd round pick - Phil Taylor We cant be giving away picks because we havent drafted well in the past....what we need to do is draft well ourselves.....keep our own players.....and bring in a couple of key free agents that we dont have to give picks for JMO I've been saying it alot but yes - you must rule out cam, and then Quinn before talking about any other possibility. Physically they are too rare to Pass if heads check out. Keep poz, whitner and Florence if possible. Can you imagine Williams (carrington)-- troup (Williams, Taylor)-- Edwards Quinn-- poz-- Davis-- merriman (moats) I think that's a huge front 7 makeover. Pass rush and beef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/24/dolphins-franchise-paul-soliai/ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Ok, so trade our 1st for Soliali and the 15th pick and call it a deal. Im cool with that. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Why in the heck would anybody want Troupe backing up.....you drafted in the 2nd round for crying out loud..... It's always better to have two studs in a rotation then one stud and just another guy. Joe.....Torrel Troupe is definately not undersized. Keep in mind that he LOST weight to get where he is at which is probably around 330 right now. I just dont think that is a smart use of draft pick.......if we want a DT there will be some good ones available with our 2nd pick...... 3rd pick - Cam Newton ir Quinn 2nd round pick - Phil Taylor We cant be giving away picks because we havent drafted well in the past....what we need to do is draft well ourselves.....keep our own players.....and bring in a couple of key free agents that we dont have to give picks for JMO I am with this guy: First round I say One of the DL studs near the top of the draft even Miller (LB) Second round I say Phil Taylor by doing this you can move Williams to DE and then you are only oneor possibly two short instead of three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Joe.....Torrel Troupe is definately not undersized. Keep in mind that he LOST weight to get where he is at which is probably around 330 right now. I just dont think that is a smart use of draft pick.......if we want a DT there will be some good ones available with our 2nd pick...... 3rd pick - Cam Newton ir Quinn 2nd round pick - Phil Taylor We cant be giving away picks because we havent drafted well in the past....what we need to do is draft well ourselves.....keep our own players.....and bring in a couple of key free agents that we dont have to give picks for JMO Troupe is listed at 315, and if anything looks smaller. He's known more for quickness than for size and brute strength. He'll never be mistaken for Will Wilfork. I don't want to draft at DT or DE at #3 either. That's one reason I wanted to see them make a splash on the DLine in free agency .... to guard against that possibility. And I certainly don't want someone who's a natural DT in a 4-3 scheme like Fairley. My draft philosophy dominated by "best player available" ... I'd say something like 9/10ths BPA, 1/10th need. Unfortunately, Bills have been doing the opposite and have made horrible reaches like Whitner, McCargo and Maybin as a result. At #3 overall I've wanted Green along, and if he wasn't there then Peterson. If a strong legitimate case can be made for Newton, then I'm good with that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Troupe is listed at 315, and if anything looks smaller. He's known more for quickness than for size and brute strength. He'll never be mistaken for Will Wilfork. I don't want to draft at DT or DE at #3 either. That's one reason I wanted to see them make a splash on the DLine in free agency .... to guard against that possibility. And I certainly don't want someone who's a natural DT in a 4-3 scheme like Fairley. My draft philosophy dominated by "best player available" ... I'd say something like 9/10ths BPA, 1/10th need. Unfortunately, Bills have been doing the opposite and have made horrible reaches like Whitner, McCargo and Maybin as a result. At #3 overall I've wanted Green along, and if he wasn't there then Peterson. If a strong legitimate case can be made for Newton, then I'm good with that too. Vince Wilfork is listed at 325lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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