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I hope we don't send a penny to help. They pulled out of the alliance, they will not send troops to help us nor do they let US warship dock in their harbors. They pulled out, now live with your choices NZ!

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I hope we don't send a penny to help. They pulled out of the alliance, they will not send troops to help us nor do they let US warship dock in their harbors. They pulled out, now live with your choices NZ!

 

Yeah, that'll teach them.

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I hope we don't send a penny to help. They pulled out of the alliance, they will not send troops to help us nor do they let US warship dock in their harbors. They pulled out, now live with your choices NZ!

So they were humanitarian enough that they did not want to kill innocents in a contrived silly war and get involved in the cluster!@#$ that is the iraq wqar, so we should not be humanitarian enough to help a friend in need?

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Kiwi Bills fan is in Nelson, a couple hundred miles from Christchurch so hopefully no issues...check in when you can Kiwi.

 

Yeah, we're fine up here in Nelson. We didn't feel a thing. Thank God.

The news from Christchurch is crushing. Hundreds trapped in rubble overnight in the pouring rain.

 

As for "Fan in San Diego", I'd REALLY like to meet you the next time I fly up to the states. You f'ing POS.

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Yeah, we're fine up here in Nelson. We didn't feel a thing. Thank God.

The news from Christchurch is crushing. Hundreds trapped in rubble overnight in the pouring rain.

 

As for "Fan in San Diego", I'd REALLY like to meet you the next time I fly up to the states. You f'ing POS.

 

Not worth your time regarding FISD. He's already wished death on me and I don't remember why but it was pretty stupid.

 

Glad you're safe. When we were watching the BBC last night my wife looked at me and said "we're so over due." I was thinking the exact same thing. I'll take it over the snow and cold the rest of the US has had every day of the week.

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Not worth your time regarding FISD. He's already wished death on me and I don't remember why but it was pretty stupid.

:thumbsup: Me too along with ruin and destruction to the entire state of Texas. We should start a club.

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I hope we don't send a penny to help. They pulled out of the alliance, they will not send troops to help us nor do they let US warship dock in their harbors. They pulled out, now live with your choices NZ!

 

You know what they say about people who build glass houses on faultlines.

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:thumbsup: Me too along with ruin and destruction to the entire state of Texas. We should start a club.

 

He never wished death on me.

 

Which makes him about the only one here who hasn't.

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"I hope we don't send a penny to help." - Fan in San Diego

This Piece Of Krap wrote this, when told of the news that an earthquake destroyed the City of Christchurch, New Zealand, knowing that hundreds of my countrymen were dying amongst the rubble. This is considered the darkest day in the history of New Zealand.

 

What a useless POS

Be the bigger man. I would like to think I know you well enough from your time here to know that you are frustrated with what he said, but you're a good fellow and I know times are hard for your country. I am sorry for what everyone there is going through and I hope with the healing of the tragedy you can forgive him for his words.

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Cheers for that.

 

 

Be the bigger man. I would like to think I know you well enough from your time here to know that you are frustrated with what he said, but you're a good fellow and I know times are hard for your country. I am sorry for what everyone there is going through and I hope with the healing of the tragedy you can forgive him for his words.

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Oh dear God that is tragic. What a helpless feeling for the parents as well. Prayers going out to all affected by this disaster.

 

'Tragedy that will touch many'

The collapse of the King's Education language school has pulled an international group of anguished relatives into an agonizing vigil awaiting conclusive word on the victims. The facility catered to students from Japan, China, the Philippines, Thailand, Saudi Arabia, Taiwan, and Korea.

 

Many of the relatives arrived Friday at the Christchurch airport, including about 20 from Japan who were whisked onto a bus by embassy officials. Police later held a meeting with school officials and parents at a community center for a briefing on rescue and recovery efforts.

 

"There will be families receiving the worst kind of news in the next few days," Foreign Minister Murray McCully said Friday. "This is not just New Zealand's tragedy, it's a tragedy that will touch many families around the world."

 

Christchurch Mayor Bob Parker sought to reassure foreign relatives that everything possible was being done.

 

"We think that your children are our children — there is no difference," he said. "We are taking full responsibility to do everything we can to assist those families ... and in the rescue operation."

 

Those are some quality statements right there from some obviously good, caring people. Quite impressive in the face of such tragedy.

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Well there should be consequences for turning a cold shoulder to the rest of the western civilized world. I thought it was an incredibly stupid move on their part.

 

 

 

Give me shout I'll meet you. heh, your country thumbed it's nose at us, why should we help?

 

It's now the fifth day since the earthquake in Christchurch.

 

As of this morning, there are over 125 people confirmed dead and over 200 are still missing in the rubble. It's been over 2 days since a survivor was last discovered.

There are thousands of families that have lost their homes.

 

For a small island nation of a little over 4 million people, this earthquake has been a national tragedy. It is expected to cost over $16 BILLION dollars to rebuild the city and surrounding towns.

 

I've volunteered to go down to ChCh when the rebuilding begins. I know that my services as a city engineer will be greatly needed. (Many, many kilometers of roading, sewerage, stormwater and fresh water infrastructure will need to be replaced.)

I've been helping with the local Nelson Civil Defense in fielding messages from local Nelsonian's offering any help they can. From tradesmen heading down with their heavy machinery to the THOUSANDS of Nelson families offering to open up their own homes to take in families that have lost their homes. The outpouring of support has been incredible in this tight-knit country.

 

In the midst of all this suffering and tragedy, your comments ("Fan in San Diego") continued to pop into my mind and haunt me.

 

 

 

 

Not only should you be ashamed of your comments, toward those of us in peril, but you should apologize to all around you, including your family, for being such an ignorant man.

 

 

 

Look at some of the things you wrote when first learning of this tragedy...

 

-" I hope we don't send a penny to help. They pulled out of the alliance, they will not send troops to help us nor do they let US warship dock in their harbors. They pulled out, now live with your choices NZ!" [/i ] - Classy thing to say there, Mate. Alliance? What Alliance? ANZUS? For this, you want to let to not help in these peoples suffering? What are you?

 

-"Well there should be consequences for turning a cold shoulder to the rest of the western civilized world." - What exactly are you talking about?

Is this in reference to the Iraq Invasion, the ANZUS Treaty or to another disillusion figment of your imagination? NZ turning its back on the rest of the western civilized world?

 

Huh?

 

New Zealand has always had close ties to America. They've fought side by side in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam and now Afghanistan. (While the Iraq War was strongly opposed here in Aotearoa, NZ has sent Engineering teams and public support teams to Iraq.) link

 

 

If this was in regards to ANZUS, how 'bout a quick little history lesson...

 

 

 

- After the Second World War the United States, along with their French and British allies, frequently tested nuclear weapons in the Pacific region. Being located in the South Pacific and having no true enemies during the cold war, Kiwis and other pacific island nations became strongly opposed to the testing.

As the same with America, there was a lot of social change in the 1970's in NZ. Much of this revolved around the French nuclear testing in French Polynesia. This strong swell of Anti-Nuke feelings swept the labour party into power and having our Prime Minister send one of our Naval vessels into the French Nuclear testing area as a formal sign of protest. (This vessel was accompanied by many many other private NZ vessels, including The Rainbow Warrior.)

These protests so infuriated the French, that they sent a team of commandos into Auckland Harbour who sunk the Rainbow Warrior with explosives.

 

As a result of all of this, the People of New Zealand passed the "Nuclear Free legislation" making the territorial waters (and land), Nuclear Free in terms of weapons and propulsion.

We, as a nation, are opposed to nuclear weapons and have adopted that into our legislature. Nuclear Free New Zealand

 

 

Because of this, any naval vessel entering NZ waters needed to state if there was any nuclear material on board.

Unfortunately, the US Navy policy states that they "Could not confirm or deny" the existence of nukes of their boats. Because of this, US Naval vessels are not allowed in NZ. It's NOT because New Zealand did not allow US ships into her waters... IT'S BECAUSE THE US NAVY WAS NOT ALLOWED TO CONFIRM OR DENY OF THEY HAD NUKES.

 

George Shultz was so pissed off at this that he withdrew the treaty, you moron. NOT New Zealand.

Read about it here

 

 

 

"your country thumbed it's nose at us, why should we help?" - Huh?

 

- Now a little history about me.

I was born and raised outside of Rochester New York, (Go Bills!) but moved my family to New Zealand around 6 years ago, when we saw the writing on the wall.

 

I've always loved America and always will.

That being said, many tragic things happened as a result of the 9/11 attacks.

 

One of the greatest tragedies of that event is that people like you began to come out of the woodwork and establish a stronghold on the American psyche.

Without understanding the facts and without compassion, you breed ignorance through violence and revenge. You spin false accusations while your fellow ilk, lap it up loving it.

 

In the years I've spent living in New Zealand, I've become very proud to be associated with such fine people.

 

You, "Fan in San Diego" are one of the reasons why we moved away.

I wish you the best in your journey. (But let's hope our paths never meet.)

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