3rdnlng Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Try to wrap your mind around this... VERY Interesting..... Two years ago, Barack Obama was inaugurated as president of the United States. Are you better off today than you were two years ago? Numbers don't lie, and here are the data on the impact he has had on the lives of Americans: January 2009 TODAY % chg Source Avg. retail price/gallon gas in U.S. $1.83 $3.104 69.6% 1 Crude oil, European Brent (barrel) $43.48 $99.02 127.7% 2 Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel) $38.74 $91.38 135.9% 2 Gold: London (per troy oz.) $853.25 $1,369.50 60.5% 2 Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL $3.56 $6.33 78.1% 2 Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL $9.66 $13.75 42.3% 2 Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. fob $13.37 $35.39 164.7% 2 Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall 7.6% 9.4% 23.7% 3 Unemployment rate, blacks 12.6% 15.8% 25.4% 3 Number of unemployed 11,616,000 14,485,000 24.7% 3 Number of fed. employees, ex. military (curr = 12/10 prelim) 2,779,000 2,840,000 2.2% 3 Real median household income (2008 v 2009) $50,112 $49,777 -0.7% 4 Number of food stamp recipients (curr = 10/10) 31,983,716 43,200,878 35.1% 5 Number of unemployment benefit recipients (curr = 12/10) 7,526,598 9,193,838 22.2% 6 Number of long-term unemployed 2,600,000 6,400,000 146.2% 3 Poverty rate, individuals (2008 v 2009) 13.2% 14.3% 8.3% 4 People in poverty in U.S. (2008 v 2009) 39,800,000 43,600,000 9.5% 4 U.S. rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings 5 9 n/a 10 Present Situation Index (curr = 12/10) 29.9 23.5 -21.4% 11 Failed banks (curr = 2010 + 2011 to date) 140 164 17.1% 12 U.S. dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate 89.76 82.03 -8.6% 2 U.S. money supply, M1, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim) 1,575.1 1,865.7 18.4% 13 U.S. money supply, M2, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim) 8,310.9 8,852.3 6.5% 13 National debt, in trillions $10.627 $14.052 32.2% 14 Just take this last item: In the last two years we have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our entire nation's history. Over 27 times as fast! Metaphorically, speaking, if you are driving in the right lane doing 65 MPH and a car rockets past you in the left lane 27 times faster . . . it would be doing 1,755 MPH! Got it now? Sources: (1) U.S. Energy Information Administration; (2) Wall Street Journal; (3) Bureau of Labor Statistics; (4) Census Bureau; (5) USDA; (6) U.S. Dept. of Labor; (7) FHFA; (8) Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller; (9) RealtyTrac; (10) Heritage Foundation and WSJ; (11) The Conference Board; (12) FDIC; (13) Federal Reserve; (14) U.S. Treasury Also, the amount of taxpayers' money to cover the costs of illegal immigrants "benefits" has not been calculated for this, but is estimated to be between $500 million and one billion dollars annually, and increasing exponentially every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 [...horseshit, again...] Is there any chain email you won't accept blindly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 Is there any chain email you won't accept blindly? Yes, you obnoxious prick. The info was sourced if you bothered to look. In addition, from my recollection the figures looked right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Yes, you obnoxious prick. The info was sourced if you bothered to look. In addition, from my recollection the figures looked right. Did you stop to think that Obama inherited an economy that was already headed in that direction? Your argument that all that's Obama's fault is as retarded as the argument that 9/11 was all Bush's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 Did you stop to think that Obama inherited an economy that was already headed in that direction? Your argument that all that's Obama's fault is as retarded as the argument that 9/11 was all Bush's fault. Indeed Obama did inherit an economy that was headed downhill. Show me where I made an argument that the economy was all Obama's fault? I posted figures that show things have gotten worse in the last two years. So, I guess my point would be that Obama's policies have done nothing to improve the situation. Would you agree with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Indeed Obama did inherit an economy that was headed downhill. Show me where I made an argument that the economy was all Obama's fault? "Are you better off today than you were two years ago?" I don't mind making you look like a fool, but I prefer a challenge. Stop making it so damned easy for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 "Are you better off today than you were two years ago?" I don't mind making you look like a fool, but I prefer a challenge. Stop making it so damned easy for me. And that is saying that it is all Obama's fault? You truly have a really high opinion of yourself, don't you? Why don't you just admit that you were wrong and let it go rather than coming up with such weak stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 And that is saying that it is all Obama's fault? Sorry, but that is EXACTLY what you're saying. What's the point of this thread otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 "Are you better off today than you were two years ago?" I don't mind making you look like a fool, but I prefer a challenge. Stop making it so damned easy for me. I like that with "conner from the right" on ignore, I only see your side of this. But I would prefer if your responses didn't even have his quote block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) And that is saying that it is all Obama's fault? You truly have a really high opinion of yourself, don't you? Why don't you just admit that you were wrong and let it go rather than coming up with such weak stuff? That was the impression I got, but then you could probably post about a Bills' loss and given your past history, I would think you were trying to blame Obama... Edited February 18, 2011 by Booster4324 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Did you stop to think that Obama inherited an economy that was already headed in that direction? Your argument that all that's Obama's fault is as retarded as the argument that 9/11 was all Bush's fault. I agree its not all Obama the douche bags fault. But there is no doubt he is and has done exactly the opposite of what should have been done. Piling on if you will. Last thing we needed was socialized medicine. Last thing we needed was government spending increases in any form. I am no conspiracy theory guy by any means. But I'm starting to wonder if Obama is a deliberate attempt to scuttle this country so it can be rebuilt into a socialist utopia. Leftists want the individual, capitalist system to fall so they can come to the rescue. "See. The greedy capitalist running dogs have been exploiting you workers all along and the system finally failed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 And that is saying that it is all Obama's fault? You truly have a really high opinion of yourself, don't you? Why don't you just admit that you were wrong and let it go rather than coming up with such weak stuff? How else do you interpret "Are you better off today than you were two years ago?" Not forgetting, of course, that that's an old campaign slogan used to criticize the incumbent for his performance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 That was the impression I got, but then you could probably post about a Bills' loss and given your past history, I would think you were trying to blame Obama... I am fully aware that Obama inherited an economy going downhill. The causes of that have been debated here enough. I don't blame him for the economy he inherited. I blame him for making it worse. The question is "Are we better off now than two years ago?" The numbers would indicate that we are not better off. It is my opinion that even if Obama had inherited a good economy we would have been heading for deep trouble anyway with Obama's policies. You can't spend your way out of debt. You don't pass bills that you haven't read, and you certainly don't give away companies to your union buddies. Simply put, Obama's policies suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I like that with "conner from the right" on ignore, I only see your side of this. But I would prefer if your responses didn't even have his quote block. It's like there's some infectious "stupidity" parasite on the board that jumps from host to host. Once one idiot is banned, it infects someone else and causes massive brain damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 How else do you interpret "Are you better off today than you were two years ago?" Not forgetting, of course, that that's an old campaign slogan used to criticize the incumbent for his performance... I'm the one that should be banging my head against the wall. You have proven in the past that you are a pretty intelligent person. Why are you being so obtuse now? Let me say it one more time for you. I don't blame Obama for the economy he inherited. He hasn't done anything to improve it though. If his policies were good ones we should have seen some improvement by now. He has made a bad situation worse. Are we better off today than two years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I agree its not all Obama the douche bags fault. But there is no doubt he is and has done exactly the opposite of what should have been done. Piling on if you will. Last thing we needed was socialized medicine. Last thing we needed was government spending increases in any form. I am no conspiracy theory guy by any means. But I'm starting to wonder if Obama is a deliberate attempt to scuttle this country so it can be rebuilt into a socialist utopia. Leftists want the individual, capitalist system to fall so they can come to the rescue. "See. The greedy capitalist running dogs have been exploiting you workers all along and the system finally failed" It's kind of scary that people actually buy into partisan talking points as much as you seem to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 It's like there's some infectious "stupidity" parasite on the board that jumps from host to host. Once one idiot is banned, it infects someone else and causes massive brain damage. look Tom I know you are well informed but you are truly a pompous ass. Anyone who disagrees with you is "a brain dead idiot" or a @* moron. Lighten up a bit. Incredibly you are not always right. ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 He did shut up when I pointed out he was not an expert on biology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 look Tom I know you are well informed but you are truly a pompous ass. Anyone who disagrees with you is "a brain dead idiot" or a @* moron. Lighten up a bit. Incredibly you are not always right. ' With the exception of the underlined, he is probably in 100% agreement with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whateverdude Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) look Tom I know you are well informed but you are truly a pompous ass. Anyone who disagrees with you is "a brain dead idiot" or a @* moron. Lighten up a bit. Incredibly you are not always right. ' yes, but he's OUR pompous ass, so shut up! Edited February 18, 2011 by whateverdude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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