Buftex Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) Oh my God. Friday morning and this is still going. Listen you bozo, I have watched virtually every episode of Bill Maher since he came to HBO. Like other rationalists, he leans left on most issues. More than anything, he cannot believe that in 2011, religion still dictates a good percentage of Americans' sociopolitical beliefs and it irks him. For instance, I feel this way about that issue because the Bible says so. Sorry, not gonna think for myself on that one. This is a way of thinking that is seen almost exclusively from your side, Dwight in Philly. That being said, he is CONSTANTLY playing devil's advocate, that is part of his shtick. He is CONSTANTLY calling out Obama. He is CONSTANTLY calling out Democrats for not standing up for what they believe in the way Republicans do. You clearly don't watch the show, which is fine, I'm happy to enlighten you. Bill Maher couldn't be any more bi-partisan for what he does. Bill O'Reilly, as much of a jerk as he is, is also bi-partisan. O'Reilly called out Rush Limbaugh for constantly referring to Obama's policies as Socialist, which is one of the more ignorant, outlandish claims in modern American history. Listen, Dwight in Philly, to quote George's boss in an earlier episode of Seinfeld, "this is why I'm a winner. I'll always be a winner. And you... you'll ALWAYS be a loser." Please drop it. It seems like everyone who hate Maher never watches him. I remember, he was the first one, not on FOX, to start calling out Obama...the first one, not on FOX, to start expressing frustration with Obamas ineffectiveness in certain situations. There were even a few well known liberal bloggers on Huffington Post (and other talking heads) way back, calling out Maher for criticizing Obama. The topic of "Maher going after Obama" was even a news story on CNN back then. No doubt, Maher would be considered "left leaning" on a lot of issues, but his opinions are derived from logic, not partisanship. He has as much in common with Ron Paul, as he does Jimmy Carter. Maher has, over the years, given Republicans a lot of respect, for their ability to stay on point, and organize. But he is also going to call an idiot and idiot, and a liar a liar... I know I said I don't think Maher is necessarily funny. But the more I think about it, I am being a little unfair to him. While I don't think he is really funny as a traditionalstand-up comic, I find his political discourse with his guests humrous, entertaining, and very informative. There are few things on television that are as "adult" as Mahers' show. I don't always agree with everything he says (though more often than not I do), and sometimes I think he is flat out wrong. I just appreciate what he does, and the forum that his show gives people. This season, there has been a concerted effort to have two conservatives on each panel. It is good discussion, where people can say what they want, not what they are supposed to say. Edited February 18, 2011 by Buftex
dwight in philly Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) It seems like everyone who hate Maher never watches him. I remember, he was the first one, not on FOX, to start calling out Obama...the first one, not on FOX, to start expressing frustration with Obamas ineffectiveness in certain situations. There were even a few well known liberal bloggers on Huffington Post (and other talking heads) way back, calling out Maher for criticizing Obama. The topic of "Maher going after Obama" was even a news story on CNN back then. No doubt, Maher would be considered "left leaning" on a lot of issues, but his opinions are derived from logic, not partisanship. He has as much in common with Ron Paul, as he does Jimmy Carter. Maher has, over the years, given Republicans a lot of respect, for their ability to stay on point, and organize. But he is also going to call an idiot and idiot, and a liar a liar... I know I said I don't think Maher is necessarily funny. But the more I think about it, I am being a little unfair to him. While I don't think he is really funny as a traditionalstand-up comic, I find his political discourse with his guests humrous, entertaining, and very informative. There are few things on television that are as "adult" as Mahers' show. I don't always agree with everything he says (though more often than not I do), and sometimes I think he is flat out wrong. i guess the thing that irks me about maher's show is that the studio audience totally endorsing him , and whatever he expresses by hooting, hollering, applauding like a bunch of trained seals. i thought he was better when he first started on that "politically incorrect" show.but his "calling out of obama" is strictly based on his political ideology though, he is calling him out for "caving in", not espousing rhetoric and acting like the liberal maher wants him to be. Edited February 18, 2011 by dwight in philly
metzelaars_lives Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) It seems like everyone who hate Maher never watches him. I remember, he was the first one, not on FOX, to start calling out Obama...the first one, not on FOX, to start expressing frustration with Obamas ineffectiveness in certain situations. There were even a few well known liberal bloggers on Huffington Post (and other talking heads) way back, calling out Maher for criticizing Obama. The topic of "Maher going after Obama" was even a news story on CNN back then. No doubt, Maher would be considered "left leaning" on a lot of issues, but his opinions are derived from logic, not partisanship. He has as much in common with Ron Paul, as he does Jimmy Carter. Maher has, over the years, given Republicans a lot of respect, for their ability to stay on point, and organize. But he is also going to call an idiot and idiot, and a liar a liar... I know I said I don't think Maher is necessarily funny. But the more I think about it, I am being a little unfair to him. While I don't think he is really funny as a traditionalstand-up comic, I find his political discourse with his guests humrous, entertaining, and very informative. There are few things on television that are as "adult" as Mahers' show. I don't always agree with everything he says (though more often than not I do), and sometimes I think he is flat out wrong. I just appreciate what he does, and the forum that his show gives people. This season, there has been a concerted effort to have two conservatives on each panel. It is good discussion, where people can say what they want, not what they are supposed to say. I agree 100%. His monologue is usually a letdown, but his quick-witted commentary throughout the show is always very funny. Good to hear there are others like us out there, I never miss a show. It's my Friday night ritual- get all ready, have a few solo drinks during Maher and then head out from there (Mountain Time is the best by the way). I'm glad you mentioned Ron Paul. Fiscal conservative, but a rationalist. That's why Bill Maher loves the guy and has had him on his show repeatedly. Not to mention, Ron Paul respects Maher back. I wish the people on here would tune in just once to see what it's all about- they may be surprised. I've tuned in and watched full shows of every big-name Republican talk show/TV host, no matter how ridiculous, so when I get into debates I can cite exactly why they're so ridiculous. And not all of them are. But most of them are. On a lighter note, HBO programming is the best. I am obsessed with Oz right now. I've been watching it every night for the past two months, it's highly addictive. That is why I don't start watching all these shows like Boardwalk Empire, etc., I'm sure they're amazing, but I don't have any more time to waste on TV! Edited February 18, 2011 by metzelaars_lives
Buftex Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 i guess the thing that irks me about maher's show is that the studio audience totally endorsing him , and whatever he expresses by hooting, hollering, applauding like a bunch of trained seals. i thought he was better when he first started on that "politically incorrect" show.but his "calling out of obama" is strictly based on his political ideology though, he is calling him out for "caving in", not espousing rhetoric and acting like the liberal maher wants him to be. I see what you are saying, and in part, that is true. But, it isn't the "liberal that Maher wants him to be"...it is for not being the liberal that the majority of Americans, who elected him in 2008, wanted him to be. Which is a whole other topic...
dwight in philly Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 I see what you are saying, and in part, that is true. But, it isn't the "liberal that Maher wants him to be"...it is for not being the liberal that the majority of Americans, who elected him in 2008, wanted him to be. Which is a whole other topic... true, that is a whole other topic, one that i am too lazy to get into now.
Beerball Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 Are you kidding me? A WECK/WGR conversation turns into this? Unfrickenbelievable.
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