1B4IDie Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Watching the all star competition and Jake Locker missed the entire 20 yard board. Dalton and Mallet both hit it multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 maybe, but mallet cant run away from a fire-hydrant so can we please put the qb talk to rest? because if not for a brady-like 6th round find there just is none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Jack the Snack's fall from grace is legendary. This time last year he was the one we'd been waiting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Jack the Snack's fall from grace is legendary. This time last year he was the one we'd been waiting for. Speak for yourself i was not a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 True, for the past two seasons Jake Locker has been touted as the NEXT best thing... Now,Epic Fail! Luck could do the same, I don't see him going number one next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 True, for the past two seasons Jake Locker has been touted as the NEXT best thing... Now,Epic Fail! Luck could do the same, I don't see him going number one next season. Locker was no good last year and really proved this year. Luck will be #1 next year because this kid was awesome as a sophmore, the only thing that could hold him back is an injury or the new coaching gets retarded, which could be good for us next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Locker was no good last year and really proved this year. Luck will be #1 next year because this kid was awesome as a sophmore, the only thing that could hold him back is an injury or the new coaching gets retarded, which could be good for us next year. Maybe we should hold out hope (?) that the season gets cancelled and next year's Draft order remains the same as it is for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted February 14, 2011 Author Share Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) For the record Locker was never in the conversation for the #1 overall in the real world. McShay made up his potential and everyone ran with it. The truth is Locker went to the draft advisory board and they told him he is probably a 3rd round pick so he went back to school. If you look at the tape and his performance and his stats you can see he probably wasn't a 3rd round pick in 2010 draft. He actually improved and or proved that he is no good in the 2010 season. Not to kick the guy when he is down but he doesn't come across as the sharpest knife either. Curious to see if he has a Tebow-esque wonderlic. Jake Locker is the poster boy for the disconnect with draftnick hype and NFL reality. Even if Luck breaks his throwing arm or shoulder a la Bradford he won't drop out of the Top3 and is 95% a Lock for #1 overall. Two completely different stories. Edited February 14, 2011 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) Locker was no good last year and really proved this year. Luck will be #1 next year because this kid was awesome as a sophmore, the only thing that could hold him back is an injury or the new coaching gets retarded, which could be good for us next year. Finishing up his junior season, Locker was one of the premier qauterback selections leading up to the 2010 draft, but elected to go back for his senior season. Big Mistake. Even at the begining of college season in 2010, Locker was still the favorite to go number one. However, in the 2011 Draft, Locker wont make it to middle round two. Junior Season- Locker's best stats at Washington Jake Locker Comp-230 Att-395 Yds-2800 Cmp%- 58.2 TD- 21 Int-11 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sophmore Season Andrew Luck- Comp-263 Att-372 Yds-=3,338 Pct- 70.7% TD-32 Int- 8 Rating 170.2 True, Luck did have an awesome sophmore year, but there will be alot of pressure on him... if he doesn't take this team to a national championship....if his INT's rise and if he doesn't match last years wins/stats he COULD slip in the draft and COULD not go number one overall. An example of why Luck could drop out of the number one spot in the 2012 Draft...Aaron Rodgers, Brady Quinn... In the 2005 NFL Draft, this years Super Bowl winning Qaurterback fell to 24th overall, because the 49ers selected Utah's Alex Smith based on Mike Nolan not believing Aaron Rodgers could co-exist with his strong personality. Leading up to the 2005 Draft, many people speculated that Rodgers should go number one overall, but after Alex Smith's one year wonder, 3.74 gpa in college, workouts & one of the better wonderlic scores...Rodgers got beat out of the number one selection Junior Season Aaron Rodgers- Comp- 209 Att-316 Cmp% 66.1 Yds- 2566 TD-24 Int- 8 Junior Season Alex Smith- Comp- 214 Att- 317 YDS- 2952 CMP% 67.5 TD-32 INT-4 --------------------------------------- Senior Season Brady Quinn- Comp- 289 Att- 467 Yds- 3426 CMP% 61.9 TD-37 Int-7 After the 2006 Draft, Quinn was the bonafide posterchild for the number one spot in the 2007 Draft. As the 2006 college season passed, out of nowhere-Jamarcus Russell's performance that season, beating Quinn in the 2006 Sugar Bowl, including his wicked pro-day--outwieghed Quinn's statistically impressive Senior season...However, fell to 22nd overall, due to his teams horrible year of free falling out of the top ten! The Fighting Irish went from #2 in the country to finishing a generous #11 in the country! If Luck improves and so does his team...then he will be number one. However, to my knowledge, the only qaurterback who went back for his senior year and ended up going number one is Peyton Manning...But, he got a run for his money with Ryan Leaf. Edited February 14, 2011 by KollegeStudnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 For the record Locker was never in the conversation for the #1 overall in the real world. McShay made up his potential and everyone ran with it. Jevon Snead is going to be a stud and have you seen JaMarcus Russel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted February 14, 2011 Author Share Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) Finishing up his junior season, Locker was one of the premier qauterback selections leading up to the 2010 draft, but elected to go back for his senior season. Big Mistake. Even at the begining of college season in 2010, Locker was still the favorite to go number one. However, in the 2011 Draft, Locker wont make it to middle round two. Junior Season- Locker's best stats at Washington Jake Locker Comp-230 Att-395 Yds-2800 Cmp%- 58.2 TD- 21 Int-11 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sophmore Season Andrew Luck- Comp-263 Att-372 Yds-=3,338 Pct- 70.7% TD-32 Int- 8 Rating 170.2 True, Luck did have an awesome sophmore year, but there will be alot of pressure on him... if he doesn't take this team to a national championship....if his INT's rise and if he doesn't match last years wins/stats he COULD slip in the draft and COULD not go number one overall. An example of why Luck could drop out of the number one spot in the 2012 Draft...Aaron Rodgers, Brady Quinn... In the 2005 NFL Draft, this years Super Bowl winning Qaurterback fell to 24th overall, because the 49ers selected Utah's Alex Smith based on Mike Nolan not believing Aaron Rodgers could co-exist with his strong personality. Leading up to the 2005 Draft, many people speculated that Rodgers should go number one overall, but after Alex Smith's one year wonder, 3.74 gpa in college, workouts & one of the better wonderlic scores...Rodgers got beat out of the number one selection Junior Season Aaron Rodgers- Comp- 209 Att-316 Cmp% 66.1 Yds- 2566 TD-24 Int- 8 Junior Season Alex Smith- Comp- 214 Att- 317 YDS- 2952 CMP% 67.5 TD-32 INT-4 --------------------------------------- Senior Season Brady Quinn- Comp- 289 Att- 467 Yds- 3426 CMP% 61.9 TD-37 Int-7 After the 2006 Draft, Quinn was the bonafide posterchild for the number one spot in the 2007 Draft. As the 2006 college season passed, out of nowhere-Jamarcus Russell's performance that season, beating Quinn in the 2006 Sugar Bowl, including his wicked pro-day--outwieghed Quinn's statistically impressive Senior season...However, fell to 22nd overall, due to his teams horrible year of free falling out of the top ten! The Fighting Irish went from #2 in the country to finishing a generous #11 in the country! If Luck improves and so does his team...then he will be number one. However, to my knowledge, the only qaurterback who went back for his senior year and ended up going number one is Peyton Manning...But, he got a run for his money with Ryan Leaf. I don't know where you got those Locker stats from but these are the real stats: Passing YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2007 155 328 2062 47.3 6.29 98 14 15 17 105.01 2008 50 93 512 53.8 5.51 48 1 0 10 103.55 2009 230 395 2800 58.2 7.09 51 21 11 28 129.75 2010 184 332 2265 55.4 6.82 80 17 9 19 124.20 http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=184374 Plus Sam Bradford went back and went #1 overall. Edited February 14, 2011 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 IDK, I'll still make a wager he's gone in the top 50 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) IDK, I'll still make a wager he's gone in the top 50 picks. Without the benefit of my amazing Hindsight abilities Ill take that bet Edited February 14, 2011 by Captain Hindsight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Without the benefit of my amazing Hindsight abilities Ill take that bet Ha. Well played. I'm just thinking some team will think they can correct his ills and make him successful. The only knock on the guy is accuracy (a hazardous one, yes), but other than that, he's got the tools to be very,very good. I certainly don't buy the "he's stupid argument" some posters are throwing out there. He's always been composed and articulate in all the interviews I've seen. It's his leadership and intangibles that will help him succeed. A lot of people want to trade up and get a guy in the 1st, I want to trade up and get him in the 2nd. Before 50 of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Watching the all star competition and Jake Locker missed the entire 20 yard board. Dalton and Mallet both hit it multiple times. Is Jack his dad or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 For the record Locker was never in the conversation for the #1 overall in the real world. McShay made up his potential and everyone ran with it. The truth is Locker went to the draft advisory board and they told him he is probably a 3rd round pick so he went back to school. If you look at the tape and his performance and his stats you can see he probably wasn't a 3rd round pick in 2010 draft. He actually improved and or proved that he is no good in the 2010 season. Not to kick the guy when he is down but he doesn't come across as the sharpest knife either. Curious to see if he has a Tebow-esque wonderlic. Jake Locker is the poster boy for the disconnect with draftnick hype and NFL reality. Even if Luck breaks his throwing arm or shoulder a la Bradford he won't drop out of the Top3 and is 95% a Lock for #1 overall. Two completely different stories. Agreed. I have been scratching my head with this Locker guy ever since I saw McShay on his nuts last year. He was never any good - ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted February 14, 2011 Author Share Posted February 14, 2011 Ha. Well played. I'm just thinking some team will think they can correct his ills and make him successful. The only knock on the guy is accuracy (a hazardous one, yes), but other than that, he's got the tools to be very,very good. I certainly don't buy the "he's stupid argument" some posters are throwing out there. He's always been composed and articulate in all the interviews I've seen. It's his leadership and intangibles that will help him succeed. A lot of people want to trade up and get a guy in the 1st, I want to trade up and get him in the 2nd. Before 50 of course. You're killing me stony. Why would you want him in a Bills uni? He was a scrub in college, all he did was lose. Has a lack luster completion percentage. Crumbles under pressure in games; time and time again. It would be like drafting Trent Edwards in the top 50, a post concussion Trent Edwards. I can not see one reason to draft him. Enlighten me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Who's High Pitch? I'm Jack Locker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 For the record Locker was never in the conversation for the #1 overall in the real world. McShay made up his potential and everyone ran with it. The truth is Locker went to the draft advisory board and they told him he is probably a 3rd round pick so he went back to school. If you look at the tape and his performance and his stats you can see he probably wasn't a 3rd round pick in 2010 draft. He actually improved and or proved that he is no good in the 2010 season. Not to kick the guy when he is down but he doesn't come across as the sharpest knife either. Curious to see if he has a Tebow-esque wonderlic. Jake Locker is the poster boy for the disconnect with draftnick hype and NFL reality. Even if Luck breaks his throwing arm or shoulder a la Bradford he won't drop out of the Top3 and is 95% a Lock for #1 overall. Two completely different stories. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Ha. Well played. I'm just thinking some team will think they can correct his ills and make him successful. The only knock on the guy is accuracy (a hazardous one, yes), but other than that, he's got the tools to be very,very good. I certainly don't buy the "he's stupid argument" some posters are throwing out there. He's always been composed and articulate in all the interviews I've seen. It's his leadership and intangibles that will help him succeed. A lot of people want to trade up and get a guy in the 1st, I want to trade up and get him in the 2nd. Before 50 of course. So whats the bet here? I bet he goes after 50 and you say 50 or before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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