Adam Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 I heard some idiots on the radio last night saying there are too many muslims in Egypt for a democracy to work- my response to that nonsense is this- if it were Americans over there, the revolution would have been a failure from the outset. It would have taken 10 minutes before someone had resorted to violence, which is just about the only thing people over here understand- and the military would have acted quickly to squash the entire thing. The Egyptians remained peaceful, despite being baited by an idiot. As far as the people saying that we abandoned Mubarek? It was a long time coming!
OCinBuffalo Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 I heard some idiots on the radio last night saying there are too many muslims in Egypt for a democracy to work- my response to that nonsense is this- if it were Americans over there, the revolution would have been a failure from the outset. It would have taken 10 minutes before someone had resorted to violence, which is just about the only thing people over here understand- and the military would have acted quickly to squash the entire thing. The Egyptians remained peaceful, despite being baited by an idiot. As far as the people saying that we abandoned Mubarek? It was a long time coming! Oh yeah, that's right. We didn't have 100's of TEA party rallies with 0 violence, We didn't have Glenn Beck's 100s of Ks of people with 0 violence, We didn't have Jon Stewart's 100s of Ks of people with 0 violence, and even though the media would love to portray the town hall meetings as violent, the only thing that happened there was that Democrats got a verbal beating, not a physical one. Time to get a grip, skippy.
Adam Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 Oh yeah, that's right. We didn't have 100's of TEA party rallies with 0 violence, We didn't have Glenn Beck's 100s of Ks of people with 0 violence, We didn't have Jon Stewart's 100s of Ks of people with 0 violence, and even though the media would love to portray the town hall meetings as violent, the only thing that happened there was that Democrats got a verbal beating, not a physical one. Time to get a grip, skippy. If we faced that type of oppression and gathered to publicly protest and got a negative response, many would snap. I am surprised it didn't happen in Egypt
/dev/null Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 If we faced that type of oppression and gathered to publicly protest and got a negative response, many would snap. I am surprised it didn't happen in Egypt American's wouldn't get violent. Nor would they do what Egyptians did. They'd post something on their Facebook page, watch American Idol, and their short attention span would... Um, what were we talking about? Oh yeah, new episode of Glee after the Super Bowl!
OCinBuffalo Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) If we faced that type of oppression and gathered to publicly protest and got a negative response, many would snap. I am surprised it didn't happen in Egypt False premise. Those of us with the situational awareness to be watching American Idol, but paying attention to other things at the same time, would never have allowed that type of oppression to befall this country. Not ever. Again I refer you to the TEA party now, or the Blue Dog Democrats of the 80s, or the Republican Congress during WWII. No matter what, there will always be an important group of Americans who will put aside the usual games and choose to forgo a lucrative personal or political opportunity for the good of the country. That is our history. Great things come from these acts of selfless focus. Historically these groups have always prevailed, and gained much more than if they had gone for the quick but small, and ultimately worthless, gain. Think about it: Republican Congress going along with FDR in WWII--> 8 years of Eisenhower and prosperity Blue Dog Democrats going along with Reagan in Cold War--> 8 years of Clinton and prosperity Now consider the contrapositive: Assclown Pelosi Congress of 2006 fighting Bush every step of the way in Terror War--> 4 years of Obama, failure and prolonged recession, followed by an almost certain 12-16 years of Republican Presidents, just like the last time we elected a weak, far-left liberal in Carter. As always, the history is accurate and predictable, because the logic is undeniable. Edited February 14, 2011 by OCinBuffalo
Adam Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 False premise. Those of us with the situational awareness to be watching American Idol, but paying attention to other things at the same time, would never have allowed that type of oppression to befall this country. Not ever. Again I refer you to the TEA party now, or the Blue Dog Democrats of the 80s, or the Republican Congress during WWII. No matter what, there will always be an important group of Americans who will put aside the usual games and choose to forgo a lucrative political opportunity for the good of the country. That is our history. Great things come from these acts of selfless focus. Historically these groups have always prevailed, and gained much more than if they had gone for the quick but small, and ultimately worthless, gain. Think about it: Republican Congress going along with FDR in WWII--> 8 years of Eisenhower and prosperity Blue Dog Democrats going along with Reagan in Cold War--> 8 years of Clinton and prosperity Now consider the contrapositive: Assclown Pelosi Congress of 2006 fighting Bush every step of the way in Terror War--> 4 years of Obama, failure and prolonged recession, followed by an almost certain 12-16 years of Republican Presidents, just like the last time we elected a weak, far-left liberal in Carter. As always, the history is accurate and predictable, because the logic is undeniable. Maybe you are right and maybe I am just overly cynical. It just seems that in the past decade, the type of demonization that has gone on for decades has become worse and has started to be seen as reality to a lot of people. I evem talked to someone who nearly had a panic attack when Obama got elected, insisting that it would lead to us getting attacked. Same person insisted that both Mubarak and the Shah were great leaders
OCinBuffalo Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) Maybe you are right and maybe I am just overly cynical. It just seems that in the past decade, the type of demonization that has gone on for decades has become worse and has started to be seen as reality to a lot of people. I evem talked to someone who nearly had a panic attack when Obama got elected, insisting that it would lead to us getting attacked. Same person insisted that both Mubarak and the Shah were great leaders I am right, and you have just ended up being alive and aware for the worst part of the historical cycle, so don't worry. In contrast, my "10 years" comparable to yours saw the Reagan Revolution not only turn the country around but also accomplish what I keenly remember was unthinkable: beat the Soviets. I was only a little kid for the Carter Epic Fail, but I started smelling the same Fail the instant I laid eyes on Obama. The past decade seems that way, because the choice was made, by the Democrats, to make it that way. Now, that they have once again raced to the bottom and are circling the drain, the stage is set for another Reagan. The trouble is: everybody is expecting Reagan, and that might be too high a standard for anybody to meet, real or perceived. The people trying to compare Obama to Reagan are buffoons. :lol: :lol: Edited February 14, 2011 by OCinBuffalo
Gary M Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 If we faced that type of oppression and gathered to publicly protest and got a negative response, many would snap. I am surprised it didn't happen in Egypt They did, you just didn't see it on the US news. At the 1:15 and 1:28 marks you can see some of the non-violence. And I am sure those are not sponges they are throwing. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3377142/Egypt-erupts-into-chaotic-riots.html
RkFast Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 So it turns out there are NEW protests by....labor groups. What party is most closely connected to labor? Beck accepts your apologies.
Gary M Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 So it turns out there are NEW protests by....labor groups. What party is most closely connected to labor? Beck accepts your apologies. Remember, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And freedom is the enemy of the Islamist and Communists. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-egypt-aftermath-20110214,0,4259980.story
Gene Frenkle Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 Remember, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And freedom is the enemy of the Islamist and Communists. http://www.latimes.c...0,4259980.story How very cliché of you...
Gary M Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 How very cliché of you... How very non-argumenative of you!
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 I am right, and you have just ended up being alive and aware for the worst part of the historical cycle, so don't worry. In contrast, my "10 years" comparable to yours saw the Reagan Revolution not only turn the country around but also accomplish what I keenly remember was unthinkable: beat the Soviets. I was only a little kid for the Carter Epic Fail, but I started smelling the same Fail the instant I laid eyes on Obama. The past decade seems that way, because the choice was made, by the Democrats, to make it that way. Now, that they have once again raced to the bottom and are circling the drain, the stage is set for another Reagan. The trouble is: everybody is expecting Reagan, and that might be too high a standard for anybody to meet, real or perceived. The people trying to compare Obama to Reagan are buffoons. :lol: :lol: I give credit to Reagan just as I give credit to Bush II... Yet, we are paying the price for going down these roads. I said it then and I will say it now... Reagan pushed too hard (to his credit also) the USSR over the brink. We are paying for that today.
Booster4324 Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 Link Beck launched into his great Google conspiracy, “May I recommend if you are doing your own homework, don’t do a Google search. Seems to me that Google is pretty deeply in bed with the government. Remember, maybe this is explaining why Google is being kicked out of all the other countries? Are they just a shill now for the United States government? Who is Jared Cohen? Is he private citizen or government operative, and isn’t this the second Google guy we’ve found? This is the second Google executive now being exposed an instigator of a revolution. Are you comfortable with the government partnering covertly with media organizations, search engines, social networking so they can bring change that the Washington elites have designed?” He concluded by claiming that Google engages in propaganda, “I’m not comfortable with that. According to Beck, Google is involved in the Obama conspiracy to spread revolution because Jared Cohen spent four years serving both the Bush and Obama administrations on the State Department’s Policy Planning staff.
DC Tom Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 Link Glenn Beck, not comfortable with somebody engaging in propaganda. Hope he's comfortable with irony...
Gary M Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 How very cliché of you... Seems that the socialist are happy for the Muslim Brotherhoods victory. http://socialistparty-usa.org/statements/egypt2112011.html
Adam Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 Seems that the socialist are happy for the Muslim Brotherhoods victory. http://socialistparty-usa.org/statements/egypt2112011.html So what? Everyone should be happy for Egypt's removal of that problem. Just because you don't agree with what socialists stand for economically, doesn't mean you have to be against everything they say
Gary M Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 So what? Everyone should be happy for Egypt's removal of that problem. Just because you don't agree with what socialists stand for economically, doesn't mean you have to be against everything they say Did I say I was against it? I am just pointing out that the OP was wrong and that Glenn Beck was right. Muslims and socialist were all conspiring together to remove Mubarak.
Gene Frenkle Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 Seems that the socialist are happy for the Muslim Brotherhoods victory. http://socialistpart...ypt2112011.html Nice impartial site, retard!
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