ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Or make it more clever. Or something. Anyway, Manchize had consensual sex with a consenting woman who is of the age of consent. He just turned 24. I bet few other people (meaning none) have compared this to what BR was accused of. You are going a long mile to take a dig at a guy who plays on a team you don't like. Dear Meazza, Maybe he just thinks a famous QB conning a 17 year old girl into bed is low. He is not saying it is illegal in the backward state where the disgusting act of cowardice was perpetrated by a pervert who obviously has issues respecting human decency. Perhaps he is just pointing out that Sanchez is a sexual predator like Ben and that it gives him a good run at the Super Bowl.
Mr. WEO Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Dear Meazza, Maybe he just thinks a famous QB conning a 17 year old girl into bed is low. He is not saying it is illegal in the backward state where the disgusting act of cowardice was perpetrated by a pervert who obviously has issues respecting human decency. Perhaps he is just pointing out that Sanchez is a sexual predator like Ben and that it gives him a good run at the Super Bowl. Conning a 17 year old into bed? Sexual predator? Read the story. Anyway--still not funny. Didn't you used to be the funny one?
Green Lightning Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Dear Meazza, Maybe he just thinks a famous QB conning a 17 year old girl into bed is low. He is not saying it is illegal in the backward state where the disgusting act of cowardice was perpetrated by a pervert who obviously has issues respecting human decency. Perhaps he is just pointing out that Sanchez is a sexual predator like Ben and that it gives him a good run at the Super Bowl. It's like Crayonz is reading my mind! Hey WEO, nice try. Geez all he did was have sex with a consenting girl who is of legal age....gimme a break. Nice matter of fact way to try and justify MS's behavior as OK? If I wanted to be an A**hole about MS, I could have said if it were a movie it'd be "Close Encounters in the Third Grade." Maybe he's just good at small talk with High School girls. Maybe they talked about the latest episode of "Glee" or relived their favorite moments of "That's so Raven" over a Mountain Dew. Hell, he could help her out on her SAT's. I guess in your world it's okay for a star NFL QB's to pick up 17 year old high school girls and have sex with them. It's pretty damn low in my world and I guess we'll just have to disagree on what constitutes decent behavior.
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Conning a 17 year old into bed? Sexual predator? Read the story. Anyway--still not funny. Didn't you used to be the funny one? Rape is rarely funny whether it is "legal" or not.
truth on hold Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 she's legal, and he is single and only 24 at the time. whats the big deal?
Slayers Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 she's legal, and he is single and only 24 at the time. whats the big deal? This. Why is everyone jumping on him you did not take some girl in the bathroom and have his cop friends protect him. In the story it even says that he told her he would wait till she was 18 she told him 17 was ok so wouldn't that be on her now not him?
Mr. WEO Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) It's like Crayonz is reading my mind! Hey WEO, nice try. Geez all he did was have sex with a consenting girl who is of legal age....gimme a break. Nice matter of fact way to try and justify MS's behavior as OK? If I wanted to be an A**hole about MS, I could have said if it were a movie it'd be "Close Encounters in the Third Grade." Maybe he's just good at small talk with High School girls. Maybe they talked about the latest episode of "Glee" or relived their favorite moments of "That's so Raven" over a Mountain Dew. Hell, he could help her out on her SAT's. I guess in your world it's okay for a star NFL QB's to pick up 17 year old high school girls and have sex with them. It's pretty damn low in my world and I guess we'll just have to disagree on what constitutes decent behavior. Or maybe they talked about how cool it is to be hanging out at an exclusive Manhattan niteclubas she asked him to light her next cigarette and buy a few rounds for her and the girls she goes out to drinking establishments frequently. Who knows?-- but your mischaracterization of their meeting certainly seems more ominous and "almost illegal" than the facts reported by her and news sources. I'm not endorsing his behavior--just pointing out that he committed no crime (and didn't really "come close" to either) and that your analogy to BR is ridiculous and misinformed. Edited February 9, 2011 by Mr. WEO
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Or maybe they talked about how cool it is to be hanging out at an exclusive Manhattan niteclubas she asked him to light her next cigarette and buy a few rounds for her and the girls she goes out to drinking establishments frequently. Who knows?-- but your mischaracterization of their meeting certainly seems more ominous and "almost illegal" than the facts reported by her and news sources. And your refusal to acknowledge that a 24 year old in a position of fame should at least have the decency of not scarring a 17 year old emotionally is callous at best. Perhaps Sanchez should have spent the extra 5 seconds looking for a 22 year old. I know his time is valuable and all but he'd probably be better off looking for legal loopholes in the tax code than the statutory rape code. This. Why is everyone jumping on him you did not take some girl in the bathroom and have his cop friends protect him. In the story it even says that he told her he would wait till she was 18 she told him 17 was ok so wouldn't that be on her now not him? Yes Kobe, blame the 17 year old. God forbid Sanchez is expected to have a scintilla of self discipline on his own.
CosmicBills Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) And your refusal to acknowledge that a 24 year old in a position of fame should at least have the decency of not scarring a 17 year old emotionally is callous at best. Perhaps Sanchez should have spent the extra 5 seconds looking for a 22 year old. I know his time is valuable and all but he'd probably be better off looking for legal loopholes in the tax code than the statutory rape code. Yes Kobe, blame the 17 year old. God forbid Sanchez is expected to have a scintilla of self discipline on his own. :lol: Let's not forget, Mr. WEO is the one on the side of the owners in the CBA dispute. The OWNERS. The ones who are going to shut down the league because they want more money and don't want to pay for the health care of the men who give their bodies and health in an effort to MAKE the owners money. So it's clear he's comfortable surrounding himself with the morally suspect and unconscionable walks of life. Edited February 9, 2011 by tgreg99
truth on hold Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) This. Why is everyone jumping on him you did not take some girl in the bathroom and have his cop friends protect him. In the story it even says that he told her he would wait till she was 18 she told him 17 was ok so wouldn't that be on her now not him? I think the whole world is just desperate to find dirt on anyone in the spotlight these days. So they're trying to make something out of nothing. And of course there will always be nerds that get worked up over anyone having sex of any kind. He has nothing to apologize for or even comment on. Edited February 9, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I think the whole world is just desperate to find dirt on anyone in the spotlight these days. So they're trying to make something out of nothing. And of course there will always be nerds that get worked up over anyone having sex of any kind. He has nothing to apologize for or even comment on. I'll take "Bull$*1t lines a kiddie porn dealer uses" for $1000 Alex.
truth on hold Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I'll take "Bull$*1t lines a kiddie porn dealer uses" for $1000 Alex. Well you can try sarcasm here, however law says she's not a "kiddie." You may feel differently, but that doesn't mean one iota regarding the legality of 2 consenting adults.
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Well you can try sarcasm here, however law says she's not a "kiddie." You may feel differently, but that doesn't mean one iota regarding the legality of 2 consenting adults. I never commented on legality, just humanity. What is the legal age in Thailand? 4? Maybe Markie should move there.
Chandemonium Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I think the only reason some people are upset by this is because she's 17 AND in high school. If it was an 18 year old high school senior or a 17 year old college freshman I doubt we would be having this conversation.
Gugny Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 she's legal, and he is single and only 24 at the time. whats the big deal? Exactly. Would I be happy if I had a 17-year-old daughter dating a 24-year-old man? NO! But it's not a crime. If Sanchez was a Bill, there would be a lot more acceptance on this board.
truth on hold Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 I never commented on legality, just humanity. What is the legal age in Thailand? 4? Maybe Markie should move there. Don't know legal age in Thailand. But I do know it doesn't apply in America.
NoSaint Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Well you can try sarcasm here, however law says she's not a "kiddie." You may feel differently, but that doesn't mean one iota regarding the legality of 2 consenting adults. Legality and morality aren't always the same thing. It's one of those situations I'd probably give my friends a hard time about. You know, being 2 years removed from college and having a 17 year old on the side? It's just not the way our society normally works, yet alone to be a rich famous athlete and have a highschool girl on the side. As some of the jokes point out- the level of maturity should be something that turns him off. As a 24 year old he shouldn't want to hear about gym class, or how hard her algebra test is going to be. He shouldn't care about the SATs or prom. It's just such a different world and he's multiple life stages removed from it. He moved on to college and then moved on to the real world. While he talks about his next million dollar contract, his mortgage or work she's trying to decide where to go to college. The only way a guy goes for that is if he's hard up for women(not the case), is too immature for women his own age, or is on a bit of a power trip (it's easier to control a 17 yr old), or he gets off on the age and that's as far as he can legally go. It's just basic psychology that says it's abnormal, even if it's totally legal. I can't imagine a larger 7 year gap in day to day lifestyle, experience etc.... Sure it's not illegal but it's definitely not "ok." obviously he even had second thoughts if he said he'd wait til she was 18.
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Don't know legal age in Thailand. But I do know it doesn't apply in America. Let me see if I have this right. You're not sure whether it is correct etiquette to tip the cable guy and you care enough to ask, but you are sure it is correct etiquette sleep with a 17 year old and you don't care what anyone else thinks about that. Do I have that right Travis?
truth on hold Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) Let me see if I have this right. You're not sure whether it is correct etiquette to tip the cable guy and you care enough to ask, but you are sure it is correct etiquette sleep with a 17 year old and you don't care what anyone else thinks about that. Do I have that right Travis? Whatever 2 consenting adults do in the bedroom is not a matter of etiquette. Edited February 9, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack
ieatcrayonz Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Legality and morality aren't always the same thing. It's one of those situations I'd probably give my friends a hard time about. You know, being 2 years removed from college and having a 17 year old on the side? It's just not the way our society normally works, yet alone to be a rich famous athlete and have a highschool girl on the side. As some of the jokes point out- the level of maturity should be something that turns him off. As a 24 year old he shouldn't want to hear about gym class, or how hard her algebra test is going to be. He shouldn't care about the SATs or prom. It's just such a different world and he's multiple life stages removed from it. He moved on to college and then moved on to the real world. While he talks about his next million dollar contract, his mortgage or work she's trying to decide where to go to college. The only way a guy goes for that is if he's hard up for women(not the case), is too immature for women his own age, or is on a bit of a power trip (it's easier to control a 17 yr old), or he gets off on the age and that's as far as he can legally go. It's just basic psychology that says it's abnormal, even if it's totally legal. I can't imagine a larger 7 year gap in day to day lifestyle, experience etc.... Sure it's not illegal but it's definitely not "ok." obviously he even had second thoughts if he said he'd wait til she was 18. 2nd thoughts yes, but she offered an excuse so there were no third thoughts. As you point out it is basic psychology and it is abnormal. Good summary. Do you have any thoughts on why so many people tend to leap to the defense of losers like Sanchez who sleep with children? Whatever 2 consenting adults do in the bedroom is not a matter of etiquette. This is correct. And of course you know that in reality that a starstruck 17 year old is not actually an adult despite what the laws of some backward state might say. But hey, a loophole is a loophole right? What a glorious conquest for the great Sanchez.
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