IDBillzFan Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 By the way my oldest sister used to make us all stand (all six of us) and put hour hand over our hearts in the house when the anthem was played. That's weird. Most people just put their own hand over their heart. The clocks in your house must've been pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 That's weird. Most people just put their own hand over their heart. The clocks in your house must've been pissed. Well, most people only have one heart. So he needed the extra hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 jboyst62, I gotta agree with treg99 on this one. I'm a lot older than you and when I was growing up whenever the National Anthem was played or sung we stood at attention, placed our right hand over our heart and sang. When in Little League we doffed our caps with our right hand and placed them over our heart while standing at attention and singing. That standard practice which was observed across the nation began to be relaxed beginning in the late 1960s when anti-war sentiments grew tremendously and morphed into anti-nationalism. That was the seedbed for much of the political animus that we're mired in today. IMHO. Jesus, get a grip old fart. Stuckincincy couldn't top this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 A few follow ups, then I gotta get back to getting stuff done... I appreciate Beck because he is able to form an opinion on something with some sort of knowledge and describe it fairly effectively. He is able to use his 1st Amendment right pretty well, as opposed to people like Sean Penn, Sarah Palin. What I do not like about him is that he is still a manipulative troll who makes everything political and is so able to play the victim role so easily when he is just as much the attacker as anyone else he opposes. In Boy Scouts that was because we were in uniform. We held our hand over our hands forthe pledge. For sports events we were in we usually stood with our hands behind our back, sometimes helmets over hearts, it varied for everyone. I do not ever remember learning there was a rule or law about how to salute the National Anthem. However, I did learn that you must always stand for it, unless you are a Jehovah's witness or something else I read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Well, most people only have one heart. So he needed the extra hands. I'm confused. I thought I had no heart at all. A few follow ups, then I gotta get back to getting stuff done... I appreciate Beck because he is able to form an opinion on something with some sort of knowledge and describe it fairly effectively. He is able to use his 1st Amendment right pretty well, as opposed to people like Sean Penn, Sarah Palin. What I do not like about him is that he is still a manipulative troll who makes everything political and is so able to play the victim role so easily when he is just as much the attacker as anyone else he opposes. In Boy Scouts that was because we were in uniform. We held our hand over our hands forthe pledge. For sports events we were in we usually stood with our hands behind our back, sometimes helmets over hearts, it varied for everyone. I do not ever remember learning there was a rule or law about how to salute the National Anthem. However, I did learn that you must always stand for it, unless you are a Jehovah's witness or something else I read. I think someone need to explain the difference between, rule, law, etiquette and respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I think someone need to explain the difference between, rule, law, etiquette and respect. Right. You can do whatever you want. It's at least polite to be quiet and stand but if you don't, your only consequence will to be socially shamed. Like going to Catholic Mass and not going up for communion, putting money in the pot, or knowing all the mumbo jumbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I'm confused. I thought I had no heart at all. I am glad you made the joke, I almost did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I'm confused. I thought I had no heart at all. You're one of those people who exists only to line his pockets and refuses to fall in line with the "serve and keep pace" crowd, so yes, it was kind of assumed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Right. You can do whatever you want. It's at least polite to be quiet and stand but if you don't, your only consequence will to be socially shamed. Like going to Catholic Mass and not going up for communion, putting money in the pot, or knowing all the mumbo jumbo. But does that make it wrong? Surely, there are exceptions. Maybe you are out of work to pay your tides or you have a sore hip; but I am talking if just opting out of it, does that make it wrong? Now, one step further, I can assume it has to do with morals. If you consider yourself a Catholic and decide you do not want to pay your tides does that mean you have lower morals in your faith? I am honestly asking opinions and not looking to debate as much as understand viewpoints. Chef's comment has me thinking a little... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I am glad you made the joke, I almost did. Joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 But does that make it wrong? Surely, there are exceptions. Maybe you are out of work to pay your tides or you have a sore hip; but I am talking if just opting out of it, does that make it wrong? Now, one step further, I can assume it has to do with morals. If you consider yourself a Catholic and decide you do not want to pay your tides does that mean you have lower morals in your faith? I am honestly asking opinions and not looking to debate as much as understand viewpoints. Chef's comment has me thinking a little... The word is tithes, not tides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 The word is tithes, not tides ...well...that's pretty bad. The excuse that I do not go to church isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 ...well...that's pretty bad. The excuse that I do not go to church isn't good enough. Don't worry. The tides will come in and the tides will go out regardless if you pay them or not. I have a question for you non-believers. If the churches can raise tides, do you think that there just might be something behind religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 When will we be done with this guy? Somehow I've managed to live my entire life without ever hearing Glen Beck offer an opinion about anything. But does that make it wrong? Surely, there are exceptions. Maybe you are out of work to pay your tides or you have a sore hip; but I am talking if just opting out of it, does that make it wrong? Now, one step further, I can assume it has to do with morals. If you consider yourself a Catholic and decide you do not want to pay your tides does that mean you have lower morals in your faith? We should all strive to be more like Nick Notle in that regard. He was the Prince of Tides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Let me preface this by saying I never watch or listen to Beck, but this is how you can tell a person is just rambling for the sake of taking a partisan swipe at someone. You hear it a lot from people who try to debate a Rush Limbaugh topic. It's never "Rush was wrong because of these facts." It's always "How can you believe anything that comes out of that overweight Oxycodone-draining windbag?" You'll note how he's "pretty sure" you don't have to put your hand over your heart, but he's damn sure that Beck is a "substance abusing morning zoo keeper" and that "putting your face in a bowl of powder" equates to someone being patriotic it is entirely appropriate to criticize hypocrisy. btw, these two take plenty of liberties with the facts and that's well documented. of course, they demonize the sites that do the documenting, doing much the same as you accuse jboys of. lastly, rush is fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 it is entirely appropriate to criticize hypocrisy. btw, these two take plenty of liberties with the facts and that's well documented. of course, they demonize the sites that do the documenting, doing much the same as you accuse jboys of. lastly, rush is fat. Rush is right 99.4% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Now, one step further, I can assume it has to do with morals. If you consider yourself a Catholic and decide you do not want to pay your tides does that mean you have lower morals in your faith? Or it might just mean it's a high tide, and you're waiting for it to ebb. The tide is high, but you're holding on, so to speak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Rush is right 99.4% of the time. I think it is 99.6 and I believe the company that rates him is owned by him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I think it is 99.6 and I believe the company that rates him is owned by him... If that were the case, it would be more like 100.4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 If that were the case, it would be more like 100.4. So an actual independent company rates him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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