boyst Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Story I am pretty sure it is not true etiquette to put your hand over your heart for the National Anthem, and only something that has come up since 9/11...along with the little pins on the shirts. Seriously, this guy was a substance abusing morning zoo keeper and here he is commenting about putting your hand on your heart for the National Anthem. I guess putting your face in a bowl of powder is something much more patriotic. Also, I love how he was giggling about Gay's last name. When will we be done with this guy?
KD in CA Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Yeah, seriously. Instead he should be ripping William Gay for his bad coverage last night!
Captain Hindsight Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 I never did that when i played. I held my helmet in my right hand with my hand at my side. The whole team did it and i never felt unpatriotic
CosmicBills Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Story I am pretty sure it is not true etiquette to put your hand over your heart for the National Anthem, and only something that has come up since 9/11...along with the little pins on the shirts. Seriously, this guy was a substance abusing morning zoo keeper and here he is commenting about putting your hand on your heart for the National Anthem. I guess putting your face in a bowl of powder is something much more patriotic. Also, I love how he was giggling about Gay's last name. When will we be done with this guy? I'm on your side in not being a fan of Beck, but I fail to see the correlation between using drugs and being patriotic. They're not mutually exclusive ...
uforesircher Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Story I am pretty sure it is not true etiquette [/size]to put your hand over your heart for the National Anthem, and only something that has come up since 9/11...along with the little pins on the shirts. Seriously, this guy was a substance abusing morning zoo keeper and here he is commenting about putting your hand on your heart for the National Anthem. I guess putting your face in a bowl of powder is something much more patriotic. Also, I love how he was giggling about Gay's last name. When will we be done with this guy? You are pretty wrong about that: To salute the flag during the national anthem, all persons come to attention. All persons in uniform should give the military salute. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may also render the military salute. All other persons should salute by placing their right hand over their hearts. Men wearing a head covering (a hat, cap or other headwear) are to remove it. Women do not have to remove their head covering.
Chef Jim Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 I'm on your side in not being a fan of Beck, but I fail to see the correlation between using drugs and being patriotic. They're not mutually exclusive ... Oh I think it's just the opposite. I'm pretty sure that every time I snorted an inch think like of coke off of a dead hookers ass I finished with "only in American, man...only in America."
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Speaking on his Monday radio show, Beck said that, by his count, only one player--the Steelers' William Gay (whose last name seemed to amuse Beck)--showed the appropriate reverence for the national anthem. I think you got your title wrong.
boyst Posted February 8, 2011 Author Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) You are pretty wrong about that: To salute the flag during the national anthem, all persons come to attention. All persons in uniform should give the military salute. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may also render the military salute. All other persons should salute by placing their right hand over their hearts. Men wearing a head covering (a hat, cap or other headwear) are to remove it. Women do not have to remove their head covering. source? Not to sound silly, but I was a Boy Scout, damn near Eagle, a pretty dang good good athlete, and a few other things and never once was I told that I was to hold my hand over my heart. However, this statutory suggestion does not have any penalty associated with violations. 36 U.S.C. § 301 Moreover, generations of students who were introduced to flag etiquette prior to its enactment in 1998 were taught that the hand over the heart gesture was exclusively for the Pledge of Allegiance which has had the statutory requirement for much longer.(4 U.S.C. § 4)[citation needed] This behavioral requirement for the national anthem is subject to the same First Amendment controversies that surround the Pledge.[18] For example, Jehovah’s Witnesses are not required to stand for or sing the national anthem - Wikipedia. [looking for more] Edited February 8, 2011 by jboyst62
IDBillzFan Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 I'm on your side in not being a fan of Beck, but I fail to see the correlation between using drugs and being patriotic. They're not mutually exclusive ... Let me preface this by saying I never watch or listen to Beck, but this is how you can tell a person is just rambling for the sake of taking a partisan swipe at someone. You hear it a lot from people who try to debate a Rush Limbaugh topic. It's never "Rush was wrong because of these facts." It's always "How can you believe anything that comes out of that overweight Oxycodone-draining windbag?" You'll note how he's "pretty sure" you don't have to put your hand over your heart, but he's damn sure that Beck is a "substance abusing morning zoo keeper" and that "putting your face in a bowl of powder" equates to someone being patriotic What is lost on this young man is the fact that he thinks he's smart enough to ask "When will we be done with this guy?" but is too stupid to realize that most people WOULD be done with this guy is dolts like him would just stop bringing him up in useless, mindless, idiotic threads like this.
boyst Posted February 8, 2011 Author Posted February 8, 2011 You'll note how he's "pretty sure" you don't have to put your hand over your heart, but he's damn sure that Beck is a "substance abusing morning zoo keeper" and that "putting your face in a bowl of powder" equates to someone being patriotic. Why is it that Beck should feel free to criticize anyone on their choices in life when he has made so many poor ones? I actually appreciate Beck more then I dislike him, for what it is worth. As far as Rush, I do not listen to him except when my father has him on, and when I do I block him out so I cannot comment on him, but he is a fat dude who flys away to the Carribean to bang chicks on viagra while doing oxy's and roxy's. What is lost on this young man is the fact that he thinks he's smart enough to ask "When will we be done with this guy?" but is too stupid to realize that most people WOULD be done with this guy is dolts like him would just stop bringing him up in useless, mindless, idiotic threads like this. Have to say it...but you're right, on part of that...which part is up for judgment.
IDBillzFan Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Why is it that Beck should feel free to criticize anyone on their choices in life when he has made so many poor ones? I actually appreciate Beck more then I dislike him, for what it is worth. As far as Rush, I do not listen to him except when my father has him on, and when I do I block him out so I cannot comment on him, but he is a fat dude who flys away to the Carribean to bang chicks on viagra while doing oxy's and roxy's. Have to say it...but you're right, on part of that...which part is up for judgment. You're either full of crap, or you've just given your password to conner. Few people are stupid enough to scream "When will we be done with this guy?" and in the next breath say "I actually appreciate Beck more than I dislike him." It doesn't work like that here in the world of reality. I mean, it may work that way in the little carnival that plays in your mind, but most people are smart enough to realize you're just being an idiot. And by most people, I mean virtually everyone who posts here.
Jim in Anchorage Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) Let me preface this by saying I never watch or listen to Beck, but this is how you can tell a person is just rambling for the sake of taking a partisan swipe at someone. You hear it a lot from people who try to debate a Rush Limbaugh topic. It's never "Rush was wrong because of these facts." It's always "How can you believe anything that comes out of that overweight Oxycodone-draining windbag?" As far as Rush, I do not listen to him except when my father has him on, and when I do I block him out so I cannot comment on him, but he is a fat dude who flys away to the Carribean to bang chicks on viagra while doing oxy's and roxy's. Is that supposed to be your rebuttal? Edited February 8, 2011 by Jim in Anchorage
Nanker Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 jboyst62, I gotta agree with treg99 on this one. I'm a lot older than you and when I was growing up whenever the National Anthem was played or sung we stood at attention, placed our right hand over our heart and sang. When in Little League we doffed our caps with our right hand and placed them over our heart while standing at attention and singing. That standard practice which was observed across the nation began to be relaxed beginning in the late 1960s when anti-war sentiments grew tremendously and morphed into anti-nationalism. That was the seedbed for much of the political animus that we're mired in today. IMHO.
/dev/null Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 That standard practice which was observed across the nation began to be relaxed beginning in the late 1960s when anti-war sentiments grew tremendously and morphed into anti-nationalism. That was the seedbed for much of the political animus that we're mired in today. IMHO. Gawdam Hippies. They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad. I hate 'em. I wanna kick 'em in the nuts! -Eric T Cartman But seriously, the hand over heart thing goes back a long ways. It's not some insidious Imperialist plot by George W Bush after 9/11.
DC Tom Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 source? Not to sound silly, but I was a Boy Scout, damn near Eagle, a pretty dang good good athlete, and a few other things and never once was I told that I was to hold my hand over my heart. - Wikipedia. [looking for more] (a) Designation. - The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem. (b) Conduct During Playing. - During a rendition of the national anthem - (1) when the flag is displayed - (A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; (B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and © all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and That's the etiquette, as defined by law. Like Wikistupedia said, there's no punishment for not doing so...but it is the defined etiquette.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 jboyst62, I gotta agree with treg99 on this one. I'm a lot older than you and when I was growing up whenever the National Anthem was played or sung we stood at attention, placed our right hand over our heart and sang. When in Little League we doffed our caps with our right hand and placed them over our heart while standing at attention and singing. That standard practice which was observed across the nation began to be relaxed beginning in the late 1960s when anti-war sentiments grew tremendously and morphed into anti-nationalism. That was the seedbed for much of the political animus that we're mired in today. IMHO. That's a pet peeve of mine. People who don't remove their hats for the anthem. And yes, YOU sir are correct. Hand over heart, or salute.
LeviF Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 source? Not to sound silly, but I was a Boy Scout, damn near Eagle, a pretty dang good good athlete, and a few other things and never once was I told that I was to hold my hand over my heart. - Wikipedia. [looking for more] When I was a Boy Scout, I was told that we were to stand at attention and salute (Boy Scout salute) during both the Pledge of Allegiance and the Star-Spangled Banner while the flag was displayed.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 When I was a Boy Scout, I was told that we were to stand at attention and salute (Boy Scout salute) during both the Pledge of Allegiance and the Star-Spangled Banner while the flag was displayed. And anyone who's watched the Olympics knows people put the right hand over the heart.
erynthered Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 That's a pet peeve of mine. People who don't remove their hats for the anthem. And yes, YOU sir are correct. Hand over heart, or salute. Thats toooooo much of an effort to do that for some to show any respect for the flag. Lets burn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chef Jim Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) quote name='DC Tom' timestamp='1297179413' post='2103689'] That's the etiquette, as defined by law. Like Wikistupedia said, there's no punishment for not doing so...but it is the defined etiquette. Uhhhh what does etiquette mean?? 75% of posters on TSW By the way my oldest sister used to make us all stand (all six of us) and put hour hand over our hearts in the house when the anthem was played. Edited February 8, 2011 by Chef Jim
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