Astrobot Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) LongBall posted these notes on our board. I'll keep adding them in the same post: North Practice (Tuesday Morning) Jalil Brown (Colorado CB) looks good in passing drills Jaiquawn Jarrett (Temple FS) plays too high, needs to bend knees to come out of breaks with the WR’s Titus Young is making himself some money these first two days – DeSean Jackson starter kit. Once again, Vincent Brown gets in and out of breaks quickly for a long-strider, and there’s no questioning his hands. First Full Squad: Interesting OL – Castonzo (LT), Carimi (LG), Moffitt (OC), Schilling (RG) and Pinkston (RT) OL/DL Individual Drills: Ballard beats Castonzo, Jordan beats Brewer & demolishes Schilling, Solder holds Kerrigan, Carimi whips Allen, Moffitt whips Williams, Ballard beats Schilling and then gets inside Solder, Beal flew by Kowalski, Brewer pushed Allen past QB, . . . Second Full Squad: Next OL – Carimi (LT), Moffitt (LG), Fusco (OC), Castonzo (RG) and Solder (RT) – Brewer comes in for Solder and promptly gives up what would have been a sack – Solder is back in for next play (never mind, they’re rotating – Brewer just moved inside to RG and Castonzo is at LT). DL is winning the full squad scrimmage, would have had a sack on a screen pass – nobody can block Jordan consistently and Ballard is just a half-step behind him. LOL Moment: Marvin Lewis having a “donkey barbecue” with Cameron Jordan after sacking Stanzi – “QB is gold, stay off him unless you want a one-way bus ticket out of camp!” LOL! South Practice (Tuesday Afternoon) OL/DL Individual Drills: Love does a good job on Jenkins. Taylor gets under Kirkpatrick on first go, but Jake handles him on the second rep. Watkins has his legs too wide, got extended and down on his knees. Carpenter has excellent position and handles Acho twice – feet of a LOT! Hudson overpowered by Bailey first rep, but gets his anchor on the second. Jenkins whips O’Dowd twice, first move is straight up, loses leverage and is losing money! Ziemba is another OL that gets too high – the difference between him and Brewer is that Brewer is stronger. Boling is probably going to have to move inside – gets by on smarts. Taylor got by Love twice – Love too high. Kirkpatrick is coachable – if he gets beat the first time, he listens to the coach and stonewalls the DL the second. Watkins is one mean SOB – needs to be coached up in technique. Sherrod is the real deal – Carpenter needs to set his base. Ziemba gets too high and is not strong enough to play OG – if he can’t play ROT, maybe he can block FG attempts. Phil Taylor is showing well in drills – but trust me, he has no stamina. He’s a 2 down NT. Only got to see 1 rep for Marcus Gilbert, damn it! Sissy Positions Shareece Wright is bringing it. Kerley and Salas are putting on a show. I can’t tell for sure, but it appears Ponder’s elbow and/or shoulder is still bothering him – not much zip on that release. Curtis Brown looks good lining up on the receiver – after that, he gets faked out of his jock. Andy Dalton has “it” – whatever it may be. Wednesday Notes: Greg Salas looks like a good slot guy. Precise with his cuts. Really like the way he moves in and out as well. Solid hands. Patrick attempts to press, Salas knocked a bit off but didn't lose focus. Great adjustment by Salas on the ball in the air. Knows how to catch a ball. DJ Williams is a great runner. Fast, smooth. Made an easy catch and didn't see much else, but I thought he moved really well. Preston Dial moves pretty well, but it looks like a lot of work for him. Not a natural runner like DJ Williams. Hankerson is just a real smooth receiver. Like New Orleans, he's the Big Easy. Big, strong guy who moves well. Solid hands too. Looks like he's tough to tackle. I would take him over Jon Baldwin anyday. Twice on Sunday. Courtney Smith looked awful today. Doesn't not move well. Tried a stop n go double move and it looked really awkward. He looks like he's trying way too hard. Two drops in three passes and no catches. Jeremy Kerley showed off some great hands today, plucking a badly thrown ball. Great cuts too. 2nd try vs. Shareece Wright he ran right past him. 3rd try, hemade some great cuts. Love the way he moves. 0-60 very fast. Probably the #1 slot guy right now. Von Miller moves real well. Doesn't have natural hands, which is to be expected out of a linebacker. However, he didn't make one clean catch in the basic drills and had a drop. Not sure I like him in coverage despite his fluid movement and is probably limited to a 3-4. Needs to bulk up to be most effective but can't lose speed/quickness. Noticing the linebacker list and we have things a bit different than my favourite analyst, Mike Mayock. Likes Houston a lot better than Wilson. Not an actual observation on the field, but an observation nonetheless. Out of the 3 QBs, I liked McElroy's release the best. Dalton looked good. Had a couple stinker throws but also had a couple nice ones. Ponder has a weak looking release. I don't like it. Arm strength doesn't seem an issue though. Lee Ziemba is fine when he's moving forward as he seemed to get to the next level well, but he gets WAY too high in pass pro. He will get dominated in the NFL if he can't fix that. Phil Taylor looked great in drills today. Dominated Jake Kirkpatrick on his first try. Got hands underneath and drove him backwards. Taylor looked fast when facing DeMarcus Love on the 1st try. Very quick for a big man. Love was too high on second try and Phil pushed him back. After getting bullied on the first attempt, Jake Kirkpatrick did much better the second time. Better use of the hands, held his own and anchored well. Did well vs. Chris Neild as well. I'm not just saying this because he's Canadian, but Danny Watkins impressed me today. He stays nice and low and has good leverage. Moves pretty well. Like his hands. Stays in position. Solid anchor. Allen Bailey looks like a classic DT-DE tweener. From the inside he took Hudson on the first try. Hudson gets the leverage and shuts him down on the 2nd try. Later on, I didn't see who the OT was, but he didn't look like he had the edge burst to be an effective 4-3 RDE. Maybe a LDE where run stopping is more important. Kristofer O'Dowd was overpowered left and right today. He couldn't handle Jarvis Jenkins. Slow hands. Seemed a little light. Not a good anchor. Will likely be limited to a zone scheme based on what I saw today. I thought Clint Boling did well in individual drills. After taking him up the field on the first try, Brooks Reed tried to go inside/under on Boling and Boling directed him away. Better feet and positioning on the second try. Reed did well to try to change things up, but I thought he could probably run around Boling all day. Boling moved pretty well vs. Allen Bailey. He definitely moved better than I expected. Sam Acho is REALLY fast, but I don't think he has any technique when rushing the passer. Sherrod handled him. Carpenter handled him as well. Needs to figure out that he can't just run around linemen in the NFL. Might be best if he figures out how to play SAM. James Carpenter had a great block on Sam Acho after he was beat on the first try. But that was about all I saw out of him. At one point I think the coaches were trying to tell him something and wanted him to run the drill again but he wasn't even paying attention. Not what you like to see. He was also beat both times by Brooks Reed. Big Uglies that made money today: Moffit - didn't know he could play OC, draft him and cover all 3 interior positions with one mean SOB that has excellent technique. Carpenter - excellent footwork, will have to reconsider his LOT ranking. Brewer - still comes out high, but a helluva lot stronger than I anticipated. Ballard - will have to move him up, 2nd most impressive DL to Jordan. Big Uglies that lost money today: Schilling - what a wuss! O'Dowd - of course, I wasn't that high on him but his reputation took a beating (literally) today. Ziemba - played LOT at Auburn, don't know that he can play ROT or OG in the NFL . Defensive Line: Jenkins - along with Taylor, were the two most dominating DL for the South. North Practice (Wednesday Morning) Kendall Hunter can pass-block! Took on Mason Foster . . . so can Helu . . . and Scott ain’t bad . . . Murray lunged on the first rep and dropped his head, but much better on 2nd . . . Marecic has some work to do. Squaring up on blitzing linebackers and keeping short, choppy steps is paramount in this drill. Greg Jones is small! No questioning his production, but at least Sam Mills was thick. I am slowly but surely becoming a Ricky Stanzi fan . . . Pierre Allen is losing money today . . . non-factor against Carimi. My buddy Zimmer is getting after the DB’s (same doctor performed our eye surgeries). Pinkston needs to play OG, got beat outside on a speed rush . . . Solder got beat, held again . . . Castonzo had an excellent rep . . . Moffitt handled Fua . . . Schilling just ain’t got it. Ryan Kerrigan displayed an ability to play standing up – OLB34 increases his value. South Practice (Wednesday Afternoon) Ziemba is too damned upright – gets overpowered, off-balance, as McPhee gets leverage on him . . . Sherrod is quite the technician, perfect form in handling Bailey . . . Hudson gets a good base (squatting) on 1st rep, drops his head on the 2nd rep, 3rd rep handled Jenkins pretty well . . . O’Dowd is too high and gets pushed straight back, both reps . . . Watkins is a battler, handled Thornton but still has his legs spread too far apart – I do like the way he sets his butt (I know, that sounds bad LOL!) . . . Love looks good, handled K.J. Wright and Bailey on consecutive reps . . . Kirkpatrick and Watkins double-teaming NT’s – even Taylor had no chance . . . Ponder’s arm is just not right . . . don’t know whether it’s elbow, shoulder or both but he is floating some passes. Impressive WR’s: Hankerson, Salas, Kerley, D.J. Williams (yes, I know he’s a TE, but he runs routes well!) Courtney Smith (The tall WR from North Alabama) is not taking advantage of his opportunity. Gilchrist is making some money today. Derrick Locke is quick . . . the only question on him is can he stay healthy? North Practice (Thursday Morning) OK let’s get started . . . Red Zone Drills: Whoops – red zone interception, bad choice by Stanzi – should have gone to the back of the endzone. Locker throws an interception – I gotta tell ya, he is not a 1st round QB! Stanzi nice back shoulder fade to Titus . . . Kaepernick throws a high fast ball over Titus (tell me the QB’s haven’t noticed who’s catching the ball as to their choices in the red zone drill). Locker’s taking practice snaps from Moffit on the side. 2 fumbled snaps. 7 on 7: Kendric Burney has 2 INT’s today thus far . . . still think he’s small. Geez, there hasn’t been a completion yet – without pass rush! Finally, leave it to Titus – even though the pass from Locker was high and behind him! Line footwork drill: Basically, OL staying in front and placing hands on DL (remember, no pads). Castonzo and Solder dance well. Come on Locker, stick that ball into Hunter’s mid-section! Wildcat??? Oh yeah, I forgot – the Bungles coaching staff! Followed up with a double reverse – must be drawing plays in the sand with a stick! Locker gets a screen pass attempt knocked down . . . and threw the next screen pass high where the back had to jump, another pass tipped, nice deep ball to the 20 yard line. The line. No receiver. South Practice (Thursday Afternoon) Well, I discovered another NT prospect – Chris Neild of WVa, what a fireplug! Ponder is still floating some throws . . . no zip on the follow-through. 3rd throw should have been intercepted in the endzone in 7 on 7. Dalton has looked good, but every now and then there’s a “head-scratcher” pass. Watkins footwork is a lot better today, not as wide-spread (of course they’re not in pads today) . . . O’Dowd got beat again . . . Hudson looked good both reps . . . Gasp! Sherrod got beat by Brooks Reed (started outside, spun inside), handled Acho on the next rep . . . Then Acho pulled Reed’s move on Carpenter, got inside. News Flash! Courtney Smith finally caught a pass (nice throw, Andy Dalton)! Well, that’s a wrap . . . based on what I’ve seen, the North should win (unless Locker gets stupid). Edited January 28, 2011 by Astrobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) Wow, great post. I'm fired up to see the game! Edited January 28, 2011 by Green Lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Its jsut one mans opinion, but thats a pretty good write up. I see people are finally begining so see the flaws in some players games (locker, the OTs to name a few) and some good things in others (J.Jenkins, Carpenter). Its almost like I didnt see that coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Thanks fr the update...nice to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) No!!!!!!! My Boy Moffit is getting too much cred. He will never be there at 99 now. FA\Love Levitre Wood Moffit Bell was in the makings. Moffit is a complete Manimal and made Costanzo better, same could happen with Bell. Now that the cat is out of the bag that he has played all interior positions its looking like he might not even be there in the 3rd at #68. Edited January 28, 2011 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qdawg in philly Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Good job! Thanx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 No!!!!!!! My Boy Moffit is getting too much cred. He will never be there at 99 now. FA\Love Levitre Wood Moffit Bell was in the makings. Moffit is a complete Manimal and made Costanzo better, same could happen with Bell. Now that the cat is out of the bag that he has played all interior positions its looking like he might not even be there in the 3rd at #68. I am a Moffit fan as well but he played with Carmini not Costanzo. Any on of the three could start for the Bills. LongBall posted these notes on our board. I'll keep adding them in the same post: North Practice (Tuesday Morning) Jalil Brown (Colorado CB) looks good in passing drills Jaiquawn Jarrett (Temple FS) plays too high, needs to bend knees to come out of breaks with the WR’s Titus Young is making himself some money these first two days – DeSean Jackson starter kit. Once again, Vincent Brown gets in and out of breaks quickly for a long-strider, and there’s no questioning his hands. First Full Squad: Interesting OL – Castonzo (LT), Carimi (LG), Moffitt (OC), Schilling (RG) and Pinkston (RT) OL/DL Individual Drills: Ballard beats Castonzo, Jordan beats Brewer & demolishes Schilling, Solder holds Kerrigan, Carimi whips Allen, Moffitt whips Williams, Ballard beats Schilling and then gets inside Solder, Beal flew by Kowalski, Brewer pushed Allen past QB, . . . Second Full Squad: Next OL – Carimi (LT), Moffitt (LG), Fusco (OC), Castonzo (RG) and Solder (RT) – Brewer comes in for Solder and promptly gives up what would have been a sack – Solder is back in for next play (never mind, they’re rotating – Brewer just moved inside to RG and Castonzo is at LT). DL is winning the full squad scrimmage, would have had a sack on a screen pass – nobody can block Jordan consistently and Ballard is just a half-step behind him. LOL Moment: Marvin Lewis having a “donkey barbecue” with Cameron Jordan after sacking Stanzi – “QB is gold, stay off him unless you want a one-way bus ticket out of camp!” LOL! South Practice (Tuesday Afternoon) OL/DL Individual Drills: Love does a good job on Jenkins. Taylor gets under Kirkpatrick on first go, but Jake handles him on the second rep. Watkins has his legs too wide, got extended and down on his knees. Carpenter has excellent position and handles Acho twice – feet of a LOT! Hudson overpowered by Bailey first rep, but gets his anchor on the second. Jenkins whips O’Dowd twice, first move is straight up, loses leverage and is losing money! Ziemba is another OL that gets too high – the difference between him and Brewer is that Brewer is stronger. Boling is probably going to have to move inside – gets by on smarts. Taylor got by Love twice – Love too high. Kirkpatrick is coachable – if he gets beat the first time, he listens to the coach and stonewalls the DL the second. Watkins is one mean SOB – needs to be coached up in technique. Sherrod is the real deal – Carpenter needs to set his base. Ziemba gets too high and is not strong enough to play OG – if he can’t play ROT, maybe he can block FG attempts. Phil Taylor is showing well in drills – but trust me, he has no stamina. He’s a 2 down NT. Only got to see 1 rep for Marcus Gilbert, damn it! Sissy Positions Shareece Wright is bringing it. Kerley and Salas are putting on a show. I can’t tell for sure, but it appears Ponder’s elbow and/or shoulder is still bothering him – not much zip on that release. Curtis Brown looks good lining up on the receiver – after that, he gets faked out of his jock. Andy Dalton has “it” – whatever it may be. Wednesday Notes: Greg Salas looks like a good slot guy. Precise with his cuts. Really like the way he moves in and out as well. Solid hands. Patrick attempts to press, Salas knocked a bit off but didn't lose focus. Great adjustment by Salas on the ball in the air. Knows how to catch a ball. DJ Williams is a great runner. Fast, smooth. Made an easy catch and didn't see much else, but I thought he moved really well. Preston Dial moves pretty well, but it looks like a lot of work for him. Not a natural runner like DJ Williams. Hankerson is just a real smooth receiver. Like New Orleans, he's the Big Easy. Big, strong guy who moves well. Solid hands too. Looks like he's tough to tackle. I would take him over Jon Baldwin anyday. Twice on Sunday. Courtney Smith looked awful today. Doesn't not move well. Tried a stop n go double move and it looked really awkward. He looks like he's trying way too hard. Two drops in three passes and no catches. Jeremy Kerley showed off some great hands today, plucking a badly thrown ball. Great cuts too. 2nd try vs. Shareece Wright he ran right past him. 3rd try, hemade some great cuts. Love the way he moves. 0-60 very fast. Probably the #1 slot guy right now. Von Miller moves real well. Doesn't have natural hands, which is to be expected out of a linebacker. However, he didn't make one clean catch in the basic drills and had a drop. Not sure I like him in coverage despite his fluid movement and is probably limited to a 3-4. Needs to bulk up to be most effective but can't lose speed/quickness. Noticing the linebacker list and we have things a bit different than my favourite analyst, Mike Mayock. Likes Houston a lot better than Wilson. Not an actual observation on the field, but an observation nonetheless. Out of the 3 QBs, I liked McElroy's release the best. Dalton looked good. Had a couple stinker throws but also had a couple nice ones. Ponder has a weak looking release. I don't like it. Arm strength doesn't seem an issue though. Lee Ziemba is fine when he's moving forward as he seemed to get to the next level well, but he gets WAY too high in pass pro. He will get dominated in the NFL if he can't fix that. Phil Taylor looked great in drills today. Dominated Jake Kirkpatrick on his first try. Got hands underneath and drove him backwards. Taylor looked fast when facing DeMarcus Love on the 1st try. Very quick for a big man. Love was too high on second try and Phil pushed him back. After getting bullied on the first attempt, Jake Kirkpatrick did much better the second time. Better use of the hands, held his own and anchored well. Did well vs. Chris Neild as well. I'm not just saying this because he's Canadian, but Danny Watkins impressed me today. He stays nice and low and has good leverage. Moves pretty well. Like his hands. Stays in position. Solid anchor. Allen Bailey looks like a classic DT-DE tweener. From the inside he took Hudson on the first try. Hudson gets the leverage and shuts him down on the 2nd try. Later on, I didn't see who the OT was, but he didn't look like he had the edge burst to be an effective 4-3 RDE. Maybe a LDE where run stopping is more important. Kristofer O'Dowd was overpowered left and right today. He couldn't handle Jarvis Jenkins. Slow hands. Seemed a little light. Not a good anchor. Will likely be limited to a zone scheme based on what I saw today. I thought Clint Boling did well in individual drills. After taking him up the field on the first try, Brooks Reed tried to go inside/under on Boling and Boling directed him away. Better feet and positioning on the second try. Reed did well to try to change things up, but I thought he could probably run around Boling all day. Boling moved pretty well vs. Allen Bailey. He definitely moved better than I expected. Sam Acho is REALLY fast, but I don't think he has any technique when rushing the passer. Sherrod handled him. Carpenter handled him as well. Needs to figure out that he can't just run around linemen in the NFL. Might be best if he figures out how to play SAM. James Carpenter had a great block on Sam Acho after he was beat on the first try. But that was about all I saw out of him. At one point I think the coaches were trying to tell him something and wanted him to run the drill again but he wasn't even paying attention. Not what you like to see. He was also beat both times by Brooks Reed. Big Uglies that made money today: Moffit - didn't know he could play OC, draft him and cover all 3 interior positions with one mean SOB that has excellent technique. Carpenter - excellent footwork, will have to reconsider his LOT ranking. Brewer - still comes out high, but a helluva lot stronger than I anticipated. Ballard - will have to move him up, 2nd most impressive DL to Jordan. Big Uglies that lost money today: Schilling - what a wuss! O'Dowd - of course, I wasn't that high on him but his reputation took a beating (literally) today. Ziemba - played LOT at Auburn, don't know that he can play ROT or OG in the NFL . Defensive Line: Jenkins - along with Taylor, were the two most dominating DL for the South. North Practice (Wednesday Morning) Kendall Hunter can pass-block! Took on Mason Foster . . . so can Helu . . . and Scott ain’t bad . . . Murray lunged on the first rep and dropped his head, but much better on 2nd . . . Marecic has some work to do. Squaring up on blitzing linebackers and keeping short, choppy steps is paramount in this drill. Greg Jones is small! No questioning his production, but at least Sam Mills was thick. I am slowly but surely becoming a Ricky Stanzi fan . . . Pierre Allen is losing money today . . . non-factor against Carimi. My buddy Zimmer is getting after the DB’s (same doctor performed our eye surgeries). Pinkston needs to play OG, got beat outside on a speed rush . . . Solder got beat, held again . . . Castonzo had an excellent rep . . . Moffitt handled Fua . . . Schilling just ain’t got it. Ryan Kerrigan displayed an ability to play standing up – OLB34 increases his value. South Practice (Wednesday Afternoon) Ziemba is too damned upright – gets overpowered, off-balance, as McPhee gets leverage on him . . . Sherrod is quite the technician, perfect form in handling Bailey . . . Hudson gets a good base (squatting) on 1st rep, drops his head on the 2nd rep, 3rd rep handled Jenkins pretty well . . . O’Dowd is too high and gets pushed straight back, both reps . . . Watkins is a battler, handled Thornton but still has his legs spread too far apart – I do like the way he sets his butt (I know, that sounds bad LOL!) . . . Love looks good, handled K.J. Wright and Bailey on consecutive reps . . . Kirkpatrick and Watkins double-teaming NT’s – even Taylor had no chance . . . Ponder’s arm is just not right . . . don’t know whether it’s elbow, shoulder or both but he is floating some passes. Impressive WR’s: Hankerson, Salas, Kerley, D.J. Williams (yes, I know he’s a TE, but he runs routes well!) Courtney Smith (The tall WR from North Alabama) is not taking advantage of his opportunity. Gilchrist is making some money today. Derrick Locke is quick . . . the only question on him is can he stay healthy? North Practice (Thursday Morning) OK let’s get started . . . Red Zone Drills: Whoops – red zone interception, bad choice by Stanzi – should have gone to the back of the endzone. Locker throws an interception – I gotta tell ya, he is not a 1st round QB! Stanzi nice back shoulder fade to Titus . . . Kaepernick throws a high fast ball over Titus (tell me the QB’s haven’t noticed who’s catching the ball as to their choices in the red zone drill). Locker’s taking practice snaps from Moffit on the side. 2 fumbled snaps. 7 on 7: Kendric Burney has 2 INT’s today thus far . . . still think he’s small. Geez, there hasn’t been a completion yet – without pass rush! Finally, leave it to Titus – even though the pass from Locker was high and behind him! Line footwork drill: Basically, OL staying in front and placing hands on DL (remember, no pads). Castonzo and Solder dance well. Come on Locker, stick that ball into Hunter’s mid-section! Wildcat??? Oh yeah, I forgot – the Bungles coaching staff! Followed up with a double reverse – must be drawing plays in the sand with a stick! Locker gets a screen pass attempt knocked down . . . and threw the next screen pass high where the back had to jump, another pass tipped, nice deep ball to the 20 yard line. The line. No receiver. South Practice (Thursday Afternoon) Well, I discovered another NT prospect – Chris Neild of WVa, what a fireplug! Ponder is still floating some throws . . . no zip on the follow-through. 3rd throw should have been intercepted in the endzone in 7 on 7. Dalton has looked good, but every now and then there’s a “head-scratcher” pass. Watkins footwork is a lot better today, not as wide-spread (of course they’re not in pads today) . . . O’Dowd got beat again . . . Hudson looked good both reps . . . Gasp! Sherrod got beat by Brooks Reed (started outside, spun inside), handled Acho on the next rep . . . Then Acho pulled Reed’s move on Carpenter, got inside. News Flash! Courtney Smith finally caught a pass (nice throw, Andy Dalton)! Well, that’s a wrap . . . based on what I’ve seen, the North should win (unless Locker gets stupid). This is the best commentary I have seen on the Senior Bowl!. Thank you! What would you think of the Bills taking Cam Jordan with their first pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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