sirebors Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) Does anyone know what is the real issue with Aaron Maybin is? Why he doesn't play in games, and may possibly even be cut? Like many of you I did not want to draft him, and I have watched every game he has played in as a Bill. But what is the underlying reason why? Why he has sometimes not even dressed for games? Does anyone have any insider information? Is it because he is too light? Too weak? Not intelligent? Has no heart, desire, drive? Has no mean streak? Doesn't care? Unable to grasp new position? Doesn't understand scheme? Or he just can't play football or isn't a football player? I am just curious to know if there is any chance for the problem to ever be corrected. Possibly with added weight, weight training, coaching, or even possibly a mentor like Merriman. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Edited January 26, 2011 by sirebors
PromoTheRobot Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 It's some combination of all those factors. He probably has this next camp to show something before we cut him. PTR
Nanker Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 He doesn't seem to be cut out to be an NFL player. His strength, mass and smarts are not up to par. He was drafted as an impact DE. He's not one. He's not a decent OLB. Whomever is responsible for picking him in the first round should be exiled. I don't care if he miraculously improves and becomes a starter and a decent player in the next 2-3 years. He was a wasted draft pick. He hasn't produced at all. Any player picked #11 in the Draft should have a positive impact on their team. The only impact Maybin's had is on the ledger at this bank.
JohnC Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Even if he could bulk up and get himself physically ready for the position he has no instincts for the game. I have never crticized him for his lack of effort. He just seems lost and in a fog on the field. It would be like me sitting in a graduate physics class at MIT: Totally perplexed and knowing that I would never, no matter the effort, be able to comprehend.
Dorkington Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 It's too bad he wasn't groomed as a linebacker initially. I think with his athleticism he would have been good at that position. Unfortunately, it looks like its too late in the game to convert him and he simply doesn't have the size and moves necessary for effective DE work. Another in a long line of first round busts for the Bills.
Gabe Northern Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Does anyone know what is the real issue with Aaron Maybin is? Why he doesn't play in games, and may possibly even be cut? Like many of you I did not want to draft him, and I have watched every game he has played in as a Bill. But what is the underlying reason why? Why he has sometimes not even dressed for games? Does anyone have any insider information? Is it because he is too light? Too weak? Not intelligent? Has no heart, desire, drive? Has no mean streak? Doesn't care? Unable to grasp new position? Doesn't understand scheme? Or he just can't play football or isn't a football player? I am just curious to know if there is any chance for the problem to ever be corrected. Possibly with added weight, weight training, coaching, or even possibly a mentor like Merriman. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. First off, where are all of the people who said a year ago it was too early to say whether Maybin was a bust? A player's first year performance provides information that allows intelligent observers to project where that player will be in 3-to-5 year's time. It is not totally random like the "too early to say" people claimed. What made him a bust? #1 He was too mentally slow/uninterested to be used at OLB under Fewell even though we had a rash of injuries. Fewell suggested Maybin didn't know the playbook. This was a sign of real problems, but people on this board instead pretended the problem was Jauron or a team insistence that the guy stay at DE. #2 He has a 30-inch waist. This was the reason many scouts had him as a 3rd round pick. Guys built like him aren't well suited to adding 25-to-35 pounds. A 225-lber simply cannot compete in the trenches of the NFL and can only hope to out-run the guy to the outside -- which doesn't work when they know it's coming. This was a Modrak disaster. He wanted Cushing with the pick, but had a 1st round grade on Maybin and had him rated as the best pure pass-rusher in the draft.
JohnC Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 #2 He has a 30-inch waist. This was the reason many scouts had him as a 3rd round pick. Guys built like him aren't well suited to adding 25-to-35 pounds. A 225-lber simply cannot compete in the trenches of the NFL and can only hope to out-run the guy to the outside -- which doesn't work when they know it's coming. This was a Modrak disaster. He wanted Cushing with the pick, but had a 1st round grade on Maybin and had him rated as the best pure pass-rusher in the draft. Excellent point. Although Modrak didn't pick him he still evaluated him. He had a first round grade when more discerning scouts for other organizations had him at a lower ranking. Having Modrak continue on as the head scout doesn't make sense. A decade of drafting futility and the same person is directing the scouting department. How much sense does that make?
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 He had one good year and as a very young man was drafted in the first round giving him a guranteed contract. So he will make a ton of money and not get hurt and will end up doing something else.
Never NEVER Give-up Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 By rule, Cleveland (with Jauron as DC) should be forced to trade their 1st or 2nd round pick for Maybin!!!! Jauron picked him - he should be forced to live with him!!
Coach Tuesday Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 He has long arms, an explosive first step and excellent change-of-direction ability. Reminds me of Trent Cole of the Eagles. However, very little functional strength, poor techinque, and lack of passrushing moves have hindered him, and they suggest he is uncoachable. In any event he does not fit what Chan and Edwards are trying to do on defense, so if he ever succeeds it probably won't be here.
5 Wide Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 When Merriman was asked about Maybin, he said something along the lines of: He has the physical tool, but he needs to learn how to play football. To me that makes a lot of sense, he has the physical tools to be a good player, he just really runs around like a spaz out there with what seems to be very little football intelligence.
mousetrap08 Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Just a very bad football player and even worse 1st rd pick. Hated the pick from the beginning just reminded me to much of Eric Flowers ANOTHER ROTTEN EGG LAID BY THE BILLS!
Green Lightning Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Even if he could bulk up and get himself physically ready for the position he has no instincts for the game. I have never crticized him for his lack of effort. He just seems lost and in a fog on the field. It would be like me sitting in a graduate physics class at MIT: Totally perplexed and knowing that I would never, no matter the effort, be able to comprehend. This nails it. He's not a football player, he's a physical speciman, but not a baller. Wish it were otherwise. Maybe Jauron will want him.....
Dorkington Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 When Merriman was asked about Maybin, he said something along the lines of: He has the physical tool, but he needs to learn how to play football. To me that makes a lot of sense, he has the physical tools to be a good player, he just really runs around like a spaz out there with what seems to be very little football intelligence. I'm still holding a little hope that Merriman can help bring Maybin along. He's definitely physically talented, he just needs to get it together mentally.
Gabe Northern Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 By rule, Cleveland (with Jauron as DC) should be forced to trade their 1st or 2nd round pick for Maybin!!!! Jauron picked him - he should be forced to live with him!! Keep telling yourself it was all Jauron's fault. It will help you get through the next few years of futility. At some point, you'll come to the realization that it was Tom Modrak that had a 1st round grade on Maybin and that Jauron's draft day decisions were based largely on the poor player evaluation files presented to him.
Ozymandius Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Maybin ran a slow 40 and short shuttle at the combine. He's basically a speed rusher with no speed. Should never have gotten drafted that high. No speed, and gets overpowered. Basically worthless. Immature, somebody who hit the jackpot and stopped working. Doesn't study film and parties instead. Evenings are about whores and cocaine. Will never play in another NFL game once the Bills cut him.
bbfan24 Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 He is not very good right now, but i do see an upside to him. Also he is not off running his mouth because he is not playing. Seems like he is willing to do whatever it will take to see the field. Thats about all I like about him at this point. He does have a pretty freakish type body though I must admit.
San-O Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Keep telling yourself it was all Jauron's fault. It will help you get through the next few years of futility. At some point, you'll come to the realization that it was Tom Modrak that had a 1st round grade on Maybin and that Jauron's draft day decisions were based largely on the poor player evaluation files presented to him. I've read elsewhere that Jauron was pushing for Maybin. Influenced the selection. This is what happens when you bring in a prior head coach to be G.M., and let a head coach (Jauron) in the draft room who has no business being there. You also get an endless parade of DBs taken everywhere possible.
Lucien K Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Someone pointed out on here, or in an article that if we followed the Kiper's of the world we could have Ngata, Revis and Orakpo. Three of the younger and premier players at their position. Instead we have Whitner, McKelvin, and Maybin. Ouch. In some way I hope Maybin has an amazing camp/offseason and the switch goes on, but I more likely see a cut. Atleast our drafts the last 2 years other than Maybin have had quality players. I do think/hope Spiller will breakout some this year and I liked what I saw from Troup, Carrington, and Moats, especially Carrington and Moats. Add in some of the undrafteds and quality was added to the team.
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