Tipster19 Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/lovie-smith-our-quarterback-is-a-tough-guy/ Regardless of what you think about Cutler his teammates were united in their opinions of him and that's good enough for me. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/23/brian-urlacher-dont-question-jay-cutlers-toughness/ http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/chris-harris-bears-pissed-off-at-criticism-of-jay-cutler/ I actually think that Cutler is getting a raw deal. If there is any truth to these reports then the decision wasn't even his. What was he suppose to do? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/23/cutler-they-made-the-decision/
Captain Hindsight Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 A grade II sprian means that the ligaments tore away from the bone. Id like to see someone try to plant and throw with no ligament on the their knee. Especially Cutler whose whole game is about his arm
KD in CA Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Easy to jump on Cutler since he has a reputation as a douchebag, but it appears a lot of the criticism was unwarranted.
Green Lightning Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Lovie's complete mishandling of the 4th down play was Pop Warner class. Raw QB with a 4th down and clock running and he sits on a TO instead of using it to calm the kid and team down. As for Cutler, if your going to stand and watch with a sprained MCL, hobble over and help your QB and cheer the team on. Cutler's a punk.
jumbalaya Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Martz's call on third down when he handed off to the WR crossing over an empty backfield was a complete joke.
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Don't tell me you guys are disagreeing with the expert analysis of Me-ion Sanders.
NoSaint Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/lovie-smith-our-quarterback-is-a-tough-guy/ Regardless of what you think about Cutler his teammates were united in their opinions of him and that's good enough for me. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/23/brian-urlacher-dont-question-jay-cutlers-toughness/ http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/chris-harris-bears-pissed-off-at-criticism-of-jay-cutler/ I actually think that Cutler is getting a raw deal. If there is any truth to these reports then the decision wasn't even his. What was he suppose to do? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/23/cutler-they-made-the-decision/ i heard reports today of unnamed teammates making comments in the locker room including "he isnt even in a brace." i also stand by every comment ive made about his sideline demeanor, and that he needed to be in treatment off his knee, or helping hanie. he did neither i also think lovie failed miserably - the organization as a whole really. it seemed they just didnt know what to do when he got hurt. collins shouldnt be #2 if he was so bad he couldnt last one more minute to get to the 4th. what if hanie took a big hit? forte at qb? seemed reckless and irresponsible. trainers letting cutler walk around instead of getting him off it once hes declared out? ridiculous.
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Call it what it is... What ever side you fall on... The whole handling of the Cutler debacle was brutal from a PR standpoint. Here your team is in the NFC Championship and they have him on the sidelines on a stationary bike trying to work it out? Huh... Man did it look bad. Even if it really is a type II sprain... You think they will tell everybody the truth? Baloney, they are surely spinning it. I am so glad the Bears epically failed... GO PACK!
DreReed83 Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/lovie-smith-our-quarterback-is-a-tough-guy/ Regardless of what you think about Cutler his teammates were united in their opinions of him and that's good enough for me. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/23/brian-urlacher-dont-question-jay-cutlers-toughness/ http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/chris-harris-bears-pissed-off-at-criticism-of-jay-cutler/ I actually think that Cutler is getting a raw deal. If there is any truth to these reports then the decision wasn't even his. What was he suppose to do? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/23/cutler-they-made-the-decision/ Lovie is Cutler's coach. Of course he's going to say stuff like that. To me, Cutler showed no guts. NONE at all. In a game last season, I recall Matthew Stafford throwing a game winning TD pass against the Browns with a separated shoulder in a COMPLETELY meaningless game. He eluded trainers and fought to finish the game. And Cutler couldn't even do that in a Championship game? Cutler didn't even fight to get on that field. What a pansy
Ray Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Jim Kelly missed two playoff games with the same injury......one of the games he missed was the Houston comeback game
BADOLBILZ Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 I can't remember Lovie Smith not being a class act. I think he is a dying breed as a HC though, and not because of the way he presents himself. Defensive minded head coaches with vanilla schemes are challenged to succeed in the NFL. The Bears have had a wealth of talent at their disposal for the past 5 years, yet whenever they stumble there only real answer is to add more talent. The coaching staff doesn't really bring much to the table there. I don't know what the hell happened to Jay Cutler but under Shanahan the guy threw for 4500+ yards in a season and looked in control doing it, but in Chicago he looks clueless and tentative.
BB2004 Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 A grade II sprian means that the ligaments tore away from the bone. Id like to see someone try to plant and throw with no ligament on the their knee. Especially Cutler whose whole game is about his arm I am shocked that people are actually questioning Cutler's toughness. He was sacked a lot this year and if he was healthy in that game, do you really think he would have sat out for a game of that magnitude? He'd be in there.
Maddog69 Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 i heard reports today of unnamed teammates making comments in the locker room including "he isnt even in a brace." i also stand by every comment ive made about his sideline demeanor, and that he needed to be in treatment off his knee, or helping hanie. he did neither i also think lovie failed miserably - the organization as a whole really. it seemed they just didnt know what to do when he got hurt. collins shouldnt be #2 if he was so bad he couldnt last one more minute to get to the 4th. what if hanie took a big hit? forte at qb? seemed reckless and irresponsible. trainers letting cutler walk around instead of getting him off it once hes declared out? ridiculous. You do realize Collins was injured and is having surgery? That's why he left the game when he did.
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 This all does show the power of reputation. Cutler may indeed have been injured, but his reputation as a selfish douche and a bad teammate, justified or not, has colored all the analysis. Lovie Smith is doing the right thing by standing up for him, but the coaching staff was really asleep at the switch during the game. Get him wrapped up, put him in street clothes, something. Don't let him wander around the sidelines with no noticeable limp. As for Cutler, he could have been much more active as a cheerleader/coach--as Kelly was during the comeback game. Whatever the actual medical result, Cutler's reputation as a leader has taken a massive hit. Whether it is a career-ender remains to be seen.
BuffOrange Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Jim Kelly missed two playoff games with the same injury......one of the games he missed was the Houston comeback game But if it were me you would've had to kill me because I'm a tough guy! ARGGHH! This all does show the power of reputation. Cutler may indeed have been injured, but his reputation as a selfish douche and a bad teammate, justified or not, has colored all the analysis. Lovie Smith is doing the right thing by standing up for him, but the coaching staff was really asleep at the switch during the game. Get him wrapped up, put him in street clothes, something. Don't let him wander around the sidelines with no noticeable limp. As for Cutler, he could have been much more active as a cheerleader/coach--as Kelly was during the comeback game. Whatever the actual medical result, Cutler's reputation as a leader has taken a massive hit. Whether it is a career-ender remains to be seen. Perhaps the coaching staff had more important things to worry about than what Maurice Jones-Drew or RJ might perceive.
NoSaint Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 You do realize Collins was injured and is having surgery? That's why he left the game when he did. i didnt realize, as it appears to be not true. http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2011/01/source_collins_wasnt_lifted_be.html But if it were me you would've had to kill me because I'm a tough guy! ARGGHH! Perhaps the coaching staff had more important things to worry about than what Maurice Jones-Drew or RJ might perceive. your telling me some quality control coach, or assistant to the assistant trainer couldnt have done anything? that should they have won, the questions around cutler wouldnt have been a huge distraction to the team in the next two weeks? that even in losing this puts a huge cloud over their offseason? someone should have managed the situation.
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 But if it were me you would've had to kill me because I'm a tough guy! ARGGHH! Perhaps the coaching staff had more important things to worry about than what Maurice Jones-Drew or RJ might perceive. Perhaps they did. But the trainers, who should have been worried about the long term health of the franchise QB, should have been more concerned.
NoSaint Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Perhaps they did. But the trainers, who should have been worried about the long term health of the franchise QB, should have been more concerned. though my last post focused on perception and managing appearances, i also back this 110% and it has been my biggest issue with the handling.
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 BINGO to what RJ (not that RJ) said! What is it with the Bears and QB's... Has there really been any QB's of value, franchise QB's since Sid Luckman back in the Stone Age. What is happening with Cutler is so the antithesis how you define "Bear football." "Bear down you Chicago Bears!" :lol: Look at the brightside, they just put that douchebag Rahm Emmanual back on the mayoral ticket... :wallbash:
Geno Smith's Arm Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) I am shocked that people are actually questioning Cutler's toughness. He was sacked a lot this year and if he was healthy in that game, do you really think he would have sat out for a game of that magnitude? He'd be in there. Cutler is tough. He has taken a lot of hits and never pointed fingers. He has terrible receivers, and nothing special at running back. He is definitely "tough enough". Problem is he's a douche. Edited January 25, 2011 by Matthews' Bag
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