Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Mike Catalana makes sense. http://www.13wham.com/content/sports/bills/story/Bills-Should-Hire-Mangini/MFZpEUclBE-2T2P53L6uFg.cspx
Thoner7 Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 I wouldnt mind the other Ryan brother, actualyl, Id prefer him to Mangini.
Smiley Dear Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Does Mike read TSW? I started a thread about Mangini as Bills's DC on the day he was let go by the Browns. Wish I knew how to post a link. Edited January 17, 2011 by Camel's Toe
CarolinaBillsFan Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 I wouldnt mind the other Ryan brother, actualyl, Id prefer him to Mangini. Cowboys signed him!
It's in My Blood Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Mike Catalana makes sense. http://www.13wham.com/content/sports/bills/story/Bills-Should-Hire-Mangini/MFZpEUclBE-2T2P53L6uFg.cspx Screw Wanny if we can land the Mangina...seriously
Dr. Fong Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 I'm sure he'll require more salary than $10 an hour, which leaves us out of the running.
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 I'm sure he'll require more salary than $10 an hour, which leaves us out of the running. Could be first test on how serious Ralph is, IF Nix and Chan feel they need someone like Wanny or Mangenius and Ralph wont allow them than we can expect same thing in FA agency second rate FAs and another 10 years hoping
Stealth Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 There was a great article in the NY Times the other day with Mangini laying out a basic blueprint on how to beat the Pats. Now for the most part it was what you expect a bunch of fluff for the sake of an article, but what caught my eye was where he was talking about during his time with the Jets, that their philosophy was simply to draft/acquire players for the sole purpose of beating NE, because if you're not beating NE you're not going to the playoffs. On the outside you would say no ****, but it talked about how they got revis to cover welker, how they drafted mangold to neutralize wilfork, and for the purpose of an inside running game. It just made me think we have one team in our division who's mission statement is to beat the Pats, and well the Bills who only care about beating the Dolphins. Mangini would make far too much sense due to his familiarity with the Jets, and yes most of the people the jets drafted that play for them were Mangini draft picks, and for his familiarity with Belichick, and the fact despite not having the greatest collection of talent, was able to beat him both with the Jets and The Browns. Common sense says it's a no brainer hire. Unfortunatly common sense also says Ralph won't eat George Edwards contract and shell out the money it would take to get Mangini. One can hope though
CarolinaBillsFan Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Could be first test on how serious Ralph is, IF Nix and Chan feel they need someone like Wanny or Mangenius and Ralph wont allow them than we can expect same thing in FA agency second rate FAs and another 10 years hoping I get the feeling that Chan won't fire Edwards this year because he pulled him from the U of F job and feels he owes it to him not to fire him so quick!! But maybe we can get someone to consult for a year!
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 I get the feeling that Chan won't fire Edwards this year because he pulled him from the U of F job and feels he owes it to him not to fire him so quick!! But maybe we can get someone to consult for a year! so keep edwards as DC however have AHC and defensive strategist as a new title sort of like DL in Pitt
CarolinaBillsFan Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 so keep edwards as DC however have AHC and defensive strategist as a new title sort of like DL in Pitt For now, we do have an open position!
Adam Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Maybe he could Bring in Revis, Cromartie, Barton, Ellis, etc......since we haven't had that type of talent on defense since letting Big Ted, Fat pat and Bruce go.
sllib olaffub Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 I agree with Mangini - or Wannstadt, whoever that is smart enough on Defense to deal with these great teams we face every year in our division. Anyway, as far as Nix and Gailey are concerned - I know Gailey does the offense himself, but they should have looked for the very best defensive mind to build the very best defense; not what we have now - frankly, it looks like they are handicapping themselves for some reason (ralph?, $$$?). It doesn't have to be Mangini; any intelligent professional coordinator would be able to figure out how to beat these guys, schematically and personnel wise. (For what it's worth, I came up with the idea on my own earlier in the year to devise a different game plan for the first and second quarter - so that whatever adjustments are made become mute...) Anyway, I was going to say, if Wood stays at center then there you have the dominant Center to handle the tough NT's in our division. If McKelvin had panned out, as he was projected to be every bit as good as Revis, I believe, then we can say we've made similar attempts - only we haven't had the money to spend on the same quality free agents, and some of our rookies haven't panned out. Nevertheless, I think it is important to believe that we aren't that far off, really, in my opinion, only one very concentrated, well executed offseason away from having the personnel to compete in our division. I'm more concerned with having the Defensive coaching to be able to prepare for our opponents - because, N.E., and the Jets are some of the best coached teams in the NFL, and we need someone way, way above average to coordinate a defense that can compete. (In fact, I'd say our worst setback these last ten plus years has been Ralph Wilson's very outdated ideas on how much money should be allotted to a coaching staff. I think he believes this: it's only football, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know how to coach a game! - It seems obvious that the absence of real capable coaches and personnel men has hurt us more than anything else.)
Dr. Trooth Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Nope. he has previous DC (and HC) experience. Ralph would have to damn near pay him HC coin. Ralph will stick to his plan of bringing inexperienced coordinators. When he fires them he ain't out a whole lot of money. Ralph is still pissed over the last DC the Bills hired that had previous DC/HC experience (Wade).
CarolinaBillsFan Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Nope. he has previous DC (and HC) experience. Ralph would have to damn near pay him HC coin. Ralph will stick to his plan of bringing inexperienced coordinators. When he fires them he ain't out a whole lot of money. Ralph is still pissed over the last DC the Bills hired that had previous DC/HC experience (Wade). And yet he was willing to pay $10M to Shanahan?
Dr. Fong Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Could be first test on how serious Ralph is, IF Nix and Chan feel they need someone like Wanny or Mangenius and Ralph wont allow them than we can expect same thing in FA agency second rate FAs and another 10 years hoping It would indeed be an indication of serious Ralph is. I'm not holding my breath.
BADOLBILZ Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Ralph is still pissed over the last DC the Bills hired that had previous DC/HC experience (Wade). You forgot about Dick LeBeau.
nucci Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 I'm sure he'll require more salary than $10 an hour, which leaves us out of the running. Hey good one! You're saying Ralph is cheap, right??????
Amstel Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Lest he wants revenge on the Pats and Jets I doubt he'd come here. Although if he can turn this Bills defense around and help them win with defense consistently it would help get his name on the A list for HC positions again next year or the year after. Sitting out does not help him in that respect and it doesn't sound like he's got a lot of options.......and from his standpoint familiarity with the division would make his job easier in terms of understanding the opponents 6 games out of the year......
RealityCheck Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 So far it seems unanimous that Mangini would be our best option. If only...........
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