Jeffery Lester Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 I was gonna write the same thing! Well said! Here Here I second that
BuffaloWest Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 I am a little lost myself. I can't see him taking anything less than DC, but the way the article goes, he is here because there is an opening for a LB coach, which doesn't make sense. they are saying they aren't sure what his role would be. My guess is they are considering a change at DC, but don't want to dump Edwards without someone to replace him. But I don't know. I think it is looking more like they are going to try to talk him into a smaller job he doesn't want, and he ends up somewhere else. Ron Rivera was the Defensive Coordinator in Chicago. They were quite good under him. For some reason, he had a falling out there, and he came to San Diego as the "Linebackers Coach" under Wade Phillips. That appeared to be a step backwards. When Phillips left for Dallas, Rivera assumed the DC role. He is now a head coach in Carolina...so it is not completely unheard of....
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Official via Twitter: AdamSchefter One more job down. @SDchargersdude Greg Manusky is the Chargers new defensive coordinator. why would he take a lower position if the Assist HC job is offered to him? But would he have play calling control over Edwards? My guess is no.
DrDawkinstein Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) Official via Twitter: AdamSchefter One more job down. @SDchargersdude Greg Manusky is the Chargers new defensive coordinator. But would he have play calling control over Edwards? My guess is no. I would say definitely yes! What would the point of bringing him be if we arent going to let him do his, or even A job? He comes in as AHC, Edwards keeps his DC "title", and everything on the D side of the ball goes through Wanny. Just like our Offense, the OC, and Chan. A lot of HCs who specialize in one side of the ball have play calling control on that side, even if they have a "coordinator". Id expect the same here. That way, Chan lets his guy Edwards save face and not technically demote him in title(something every HC is reluctant to do because it then makes it more difficult to hire Coordinators in the future if need be). And we bring in a new/real leader of the D. I dont get all of these other scenarios? Edited January 14, 2011 by DrDankenstein
Doc Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Hopefully the Panthers fill their DC position soon. Wanny has ties to Rivera. I don't think he has any ties to anyone in Cleveland.
offyourocker Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 I would say definitely yes! What would the point of bringing him be if we arent going to let him do his, or even A job? He comes in as AHC, Edwards keeps his DC "title", and everything on the D side of the ball goes through Wanny. Just like our Offense, the OC, and Chan. A lot of HCs who specialize in one side of the ball have play calling control on that side, even if they have a "coordinator". Id expect the same here. That way, Chan lets his guy Edwards save face and not technically demote him in title(something every HC is reluctant to do because it then makes it more difficult to hire Coordinators in the future if need be). And we bring in a new/real leader of the D. I dont get all of these other scenarios? Not sure why we need to let Edwards save face. Why keep him?
Mark Long Beach Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 I hope he does come here. He's proven, talented and has historically worked well with our Head Coach. Those are some monster advantages right there. He's a much better Pro coach than a college one. He's also a better coordinator than a Head coach. We have a number of other advantages as well. We're early in the head coaches career here (meaning that he's less likely to be fired in a year or two) in a rebuilding phase no less so expectations are low. We've already started the rebuild and have bottomed out so there's nowhere to go but up. Every positive defensive gain will be attributed to him. We're not devoid of talent either. (Although we are poor in the LB ranks and have no depth) That's a lot of positives in our favor.
Adam Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 What is lame is that he can't just come take it over. That he has to deal w/ Edwards and his staff. If he wants to that's fine...but those people IMO should be working with him (should he come to buffalo) not the other way around. Basically I'm saying...if Wanny wants to come he should be the man. Plain and simple. Anything else is lame. What he'll be subordinate to some 1 year DC that had the worst Buffalo D of my life? That literally looked nonsensical at times? Hogwash. Gregg Williams' first year was worse......despite what he claimed when he came here
djrocks Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 It sounds like from the article that Chan still isn't ready to get rid of Edwards. Wannstead wont take anything less than DC. The Bills should give it to him, but I don't think they will which stinks. if he comes here it will in a position of assistant HC in charge of defense.
GG Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Gregg Williams' first year was worse......despite what he claimed when he came here And I bet Edwards wouldn't have cut the fat guys if he had them on the roster.
3rdand12 Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) if he comes here it will in a position of assistant HC in charge of defense. Assistant Head coach is perfect as a position and a very good title. It leaves him room to add value and or influnce to the discussions with in the team as a whole. Lotta freedom probably in this case to find strengths. Edwards just did not have the personnel depth on the D line this year. And heck we struggled with our LBs early on too. Consider him a rookie for us and give him another season please. I think these three could have some great synergy going into this off season. Our defense needs help the most so i am sure they are all going to be working on it. I do not mind what they title him or how much they pay him...well. But i hope we would all be glad to give him a twirl. Any updates about who else he IS talking to? Edited January 14, 2011 by 3rdand12
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 Between Wannstache and Fitzbeard, the Bills would lead the league in awesome facial hair. Oh, I never thought of that. Do you think Fitzbeard will re-grow next season?
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 The interesting thing is that Gailey was very supportive of his staff in his year end PC, but now they are looking at a fairly high-profile guy to come in and coach the defense. Interesting. Maybe Buddy Nix woke up from his nap? At least it's not like Donahoe, who hired a "defensive genius" as his head coach, and then turned around and hired a defensive consultant to fix the defense.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 It would seem our odds of landing Wannstedt are improving. Dallas is pursuing Rob Ryan for their DC position. Cleveland is rumored to be closing in on Dick Jauron, and San Diego hired Greg Manusky. How many other teams are looking for defensive coordinators? I guess Carolina is still in the running?
spartacus Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 hard to see any bona fide DC coming to Buffalo when their salary requirements for a quality DC would be more than Chan is getting paid the only hope is the remaining salary from thier prior employer is big enough to offset the low pay from the Bills
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 hard to see any bona fide DC coming to Buffalo when their salary requirements for a quality DC would be more than Chan is getting paid the only hope is the remaining salary from thier prior employer is big enough to offset the low pay from the Bills What is Chan's salary?
Ever Since '86 Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 believe it or not but buffalo is his first choice... just got done with college football and all that comes with... If i'm davey.. I would eat up a good paying AHC/Defensive consultant or whatever you want to call it over a strait DC job anyday...but that's me
Doc Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 believe it or not but buffalo is his first choice... just got done with college football and all that comes with... If i'm davey.. I would eat up a good paying AHC/Defensive consultant or whatever you want to call it over a strait DC job anyday...but that's me Where did you hear that? And why would Buffalo be his first choice? Because of Gailey?
Adam Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 So if Wannastedt comes in to fix the defense, maybe we take OT Carimi or one of the SEC receivers to help with our offense.
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