I didn't watch the Presidents speech last night,

[Dan]

Clearly there's a cover up going on for which the true purpose of these t-shirts is desperately being tried to be hidden.

 

Purpose being that a memorial service was used by our president as a psuedo-campaign event. It's been proven that the "Together We Thrive" slogan was originally a Obama campaign site blog title promoting marxist ideas and made into t-shirt to commemorate a memorial service part of which included memorializing the death of a nine year old little girl.

 

This is a battle that I will not ignore. We need to know if this was sheer coincidence or begin to examine how sick and twisted they really are and how far they will go.

 

It all circles back to 20 years worth of Reverend Wright's marxist teachings. Mixing spiritualism with Marx is perfectly ok. We need to know the truth here.

By all means... let's have a Congressional investigation and spend countless dollars and hours of time getting to the bottom of this deep seated conspiracy to distribute t-shirts with a positive message on them.

 

Exactly what Marxist ideas were promoted on this unknown guy's blog? The idea that we should all work together to make this country a better place?

[Rob's House]

Dear fellow righties,

 

There are fights worth fighting, and this isn't one of them. I appreciate the need to want to whip up the fight, in part because we spent eight years listening to the far left behave precisely like this, and there is always this sense that if you don't fight back on everything, you'll win nothing. I get it.

 

But please pick your battles. The far left just spent the last week making absolutely jackasses out of themselves, and everyone saw them for what they were. Consequently, pissing and moaning about this memorial is, as some would say, like teaching a pig to sing; in the end, all you do is frustrate the pig and piss yourself off.

 

Pick a better battle.

I agree with you to a point. The memorial in and of itself is inconsequential. It exposes the lack of class and common decency that the mainstream left portrays, but isn't worth getting too worked up over. What I find most bothersome is the opportunistic attempt to use this to paint a picture of these "vitriolic right wingers" stirring the pot with their "hate speech", without so much as a hint of irony. And if they don't get called out, it just becomes "conventional wisdom".

 

I also think it's important to point out what happened here. Obama qualifies himself by saying this had nothing to do with political rhetoric. Then he goes on to give a speech which makes absolutely no sense for the venue were that not the case, thus giving the implication that the two were related. It was slick and clever, but he is essentially pouring gas on the fire and being praised for it.

Edited January 14, 2011 by Rob's House

[OCinBuffalo]

Dear fellow righties,

 

There are fights worth fighting, and this isn't one of them. I appreciate the need to want to whip up the fight, in part because we spent eight years listening to the far left behave precisely like this, and there is always this sense that if you don't fight back on everything, you'll win nothing. I get it.

 

But please pick your battles. The far left just spent the last week making absolutely jackasses out of themselves, and everyone saw them for what they were. Consequently, pissing and moaning about this memorial is, as some would say, like teaching a pig to sing; in the end, all you do is frustrate the pig and piss yourself off.

 

Pick a better battle.

But picking on/making fun of Obama's Keystone Cops staff is still Ok, right?

 

You are right to caution those on the right:

1. Why distract people from Obama's staff f'ing up, again?

2. " " " " yet another far-left idiot(sheriff) f'ing up?

3. Why alert said f-ups to their f-ups?

4. Why not just let them be the giant jackasses they are, in all their glory, the whole time convinced that coming up with a catchy phrase and printing it on t-shirts for an event where people died is a good thing for the President to be associated with(even if it wasn't their idea originally). :lol:

 

Morons!

Edited January 14, 2011 by OCinBuffalo

[1billsfan]

By all means... let's have a Congressional investigation and spend countless dollars and hours of time getting to the bottom of this deep seated conspiracy to distribute t-shirts with a positive message on them.

 

Exactly what Marxist ideas were promoted on this unknown guy's blog? The idea that we should all work together to make this country a better place?

 

 

"For too long Americans have been set one against the other, it is a SIDE EFFECT OF A FREE MARKET SOCIETY."

"What I see in Obama is a chance for a REVOLUTION."

 

The "One Nation Working Together" rally in Washington had a whole bunch of communist groups associated with it. The word "Together," which was used in that blog title and that rally, is code speak for communists just like their use of the word "community" is, because they can't say what they really are they are forced to use code words. As silly as this "conspiracy" stuff may sound to you, it's all right there for you to form you own opinion on. To me, the "Together We Thrive" that was used in that blog is propaganda code speak for a socialist/communist agenda. As for the memorial, it's not about us, or us being together, or us thriving. The whole point is supposed to be about remembering the loved ones that lost their lives. Some people don't need t-shirt souvenirs to help them remember memorials they've attended. The fact that the president was there speaking should have been enough to remember it by.

 

What's concerning to me is that there's a cover up going on (small as it may be, but a cover up none the less) and no one even bats an eye on it anymore. It's like they've worn you all out and you're just ready to let whatever they do to you happen so you can just get over it already.

[Dan]

"For too long Americans have been set one against the other, it is a SIDE EFFECT OF A FREE MARKET SOCIETY."

"What I see in Obama is a chance for a REVOLUTION."

 

The "One Nation Working Together" rally in Washington had a whole bunch of communist groups associated with it. The word "Together," which was used in that blog title and that rally, is code speak for communists just like their use of the word "community" is, because they can't say what they really are they are forced to use code words. As silly as this "conspiracy" stuff may sound to you, it's all right there for you to form you own opinion on. To me, the "Together We Thrive" that was used in that blog is propaganda code speak for a socialist/communist agenda. As for the memorial, it's not about us, or us being together, or us thriving. The whole point is supposed to be about remembering the loved ones that lost their lives. Some people don't need t-shirt souvenirs to help them remember memorials they've attended. The fact that the president was there speaking should have been enough to remember it by.

 

What's concerning to me is that there's a cover up going on (small as it may be, but a cover up none the less) and no one even bats an eye on it anymore. It's like they've worn you all out and you're just ready to let whatever they do to you happen so you can just get over it already.

So, if I tell people that we all need to work together to find the best solution; I'm a communist? Crap. I use words like "together" and "community" all the time. I suppose I've been converted and didn't even know it.

 

Who's covering what up? I don't get it. The organizers of the memorial went a little over the top with shirts and letting students attend on a first come first serve basis. Disrespectful, perhaps; but you seem to be suggesting some nefarious plot to make us all communists. So what's there really to cover up? You think it was more of a political pep rally and hate Obama for it. I get it. But, how is that any different than any other event, speech, or action he's ever done?

[1billsfan]

So, if I tell people that we all need to work together to find the best solution; I'm a communist? Crap. I use words like "together" and "community" all the time. I suppose I've been converted and didn't even know it.

 

Who's covering what up? I don't get it. The organizers of the memorial went a little over the top with shirts and letting students attend on a first come first serve basis. Disrespectful, perhaps; but you seem to be suggesting some nefarious plot to make us all communists. So what's there really to cover up? You think it was more of a political pep rally and hate Obama for it. I get it. But, how is that any different than any other event, speech, or action he's ever done?

 

 

Of course the meaning of the word "together" is all about context. If you're a campaign director coming up with a rally name which features union/socialist/communist groups and use the word…well, you get the picture.

 

The college said that Obama and the White House had nothing to do with it. The vendor who came up with producing the shirts had "no comment". And in the background there's amazingly that very same, very specific phrase on Obama's campaign website dating back to 2008.

 

Simply, I'd like to know if this memorial service was purposely used as a promotional device for the Obama 2012 campaign. Just looking for some "transparency."

[Booster4324]

Who's covering what up? I don't get it. The organizers of the memorial went a little over the top with shirts and letting students attend on a first come first serve basis. Disrespectful, perhaps; but you seem to be suggesting some nefarious plot to make us all communists. So what's there really to cover up? You think it was more of a political pep rally and hate Obama for it. I get it. But, how is that any different than any other event, speech, or action he's ever done?

 

You must be dense. Clearly the nationally televised event was part of an overall, ultra secret conspiracy of Barrack "Hussein" Obama to ban conspiracy theory groups.

 

Several of those t-shirts were infected with the smallpox alpha strain. When conspiracy theory groups point out that the initial outbreak begins in Tucson, Hussein's jack booted thugs will show up to enforce the new ban on such theories. Mark my words.

 

And of course, while all of this is designed to convert the proud USA into a spineless, communist country which abolishes religion in the next two years, that is not it's main goal of concealing the fact he does not have a birth certificate and was born in Kenya.

 

I expect Barry will seize power if he is balked by the new Republican Congress in any way, and faces re-election. Just another African Warlord.

 

P.S. Buy silver, lots of it.

Edited January 15, 2011 by Booster4324

[1billsfan]

You must be dense. Clearly the nationally televised event was part of an overall, ultra secret conspiracy of Barrack "Hussein" Obama to ban conspiracy theory groups.

 

Several of those t-shirts were infected with the smallpox alpha strain. When conspiracy theory groups point out that the initial outbreak begins in Tucson, Hussein's jack booted thugs will show up to enforce the new ban on such theories. Mark my words.

 

And of course, while all of this is designed to convert the proud USA into a spineless, communist country which abolishes religion in the next two years, that is not it's main goal of concealing the fact he does not have a birth certificate and was born in Kenya.

 

I expect Barry will seize power if he is balked by the new Republican Congress in any way, and faces re-election. Just another African Warlord.

 

P.S. Buy silver, lots of it.

 

 

You're right. It's all so silly. It's not like Obama would have the audacity to do something drastic and socialistic like take over the health care system.

[Booster4324]

You're right. It's all so silly. It's not like Obama would have the audacity to do something drastic and socialistic like take over the health care system.

 

Which is a valid criticism you moron.

[Dan]

Of course the meaning of the word "together" is all about context. If you're a campaign director coming up with a rally name which features union/socialist/communist groups and use the word…well, you get the picture.

 

The college said that Obama and the White House had nothing to do with it. The vendor who came up with producing the shirts had "no comment". And in the background there's amazingly that very same, very specific phrase on Obama's campaign website dating back to 2008.

 

Simply, I'd like to know if this memorial service was purposely used as a promotional device for the Obama 2012 campaign. Just looking for some "transparency."

OK... 2 questions:

 

1. The University has already said the WH had nothing to do with it. If the guy that made up the shirts comes out and says, "The design of the shirts was entirely my idea. I lobbied the school to let me distribute them. No one is to blame but me."; would you then state that Obama handled this event well and did a good job?

 

 

 

 

2. If the guy that made up the shirts comes out and says, "The design of the shirts was given to me by an unknown WH staffer. He also lobbied the school to let me distribute them."; would it change your current view of the Obama administration?

[Peace]

Retard fight.

[1billsfan]

OK... 2 questions:

 

1. The University has already said the WH had nothing to do with it. If the guy that made up the shirts comes out and says, "The design of the shirts was entirely my idea. I lobbied the school to let me distribute them. No one is to blame but me."; would you then state that Obama handled this event well and did a good job?

 

 

 

 

2. If the guy that made up the shirts comes out and says, "The design of the shirts was given to me by an unknown WH staffer. He also lobbied the school to let me distribute them."; would it change your current view of the Obama administration?

 

 

1. As implausible as this scenario would be, if it were true…yes.

 

2. Would confirm the administration's "never let a crisis go to waste" mantra, which could then be used as yet another log on the fire of swaying even more moderate democrats and independents to not vote for him again in 2012.

[Dan]

1. As implausible as this scenario would be, if it were true…yes.

 

2. Would confirm the administration's "never let a crisis go to waste" mantra, which could then be used as yet another log on the fire of swaying even more moderate democrats and independents to not vote for him again in 2012.

In the case of #1... thanks for being honest.

 

In the case of #2... I'd have to agree with LABillzfan; there's far better and more important logs to throw on that fire. My guess is in 2 weeks this speech will be all but forgotten, let alone in 2 years. So, while on one hand I can agree with you it's nice to know the truth about all events; in the grand scheme of things, the truth behind this event will almost certainly matter very little.

[RkFast]

So FUNNY and So TRUE

 

So Stewarts retort to the nitpicking of the speech was to nitpick the nitpickers...and then criticise those who questioned the pep rally atmosphere with his own cheap attempts at applause? He then picks on Hume who gave a great review of the speech but committed the "new sin" of calling a fifteen miniute long rambling diatribe that even included a shout out "a bit peculiar"??!!!?? And I love the overall implication that in this "new day" of punditry, there is no room for critique.

 

Stewart is a !@#$ing hack.

 

Anyone who has taken a class that starts with a number larger than a "2" or no longer lives in a building that features common bathrooms realizes that.

Edited January 15, 2011 by RkFast

[RkFast]

So what you are trying to tell me is that the WH did not choose the venue, the time, or have any knowledge of the t-shirts because of bureaucracy. But I had to listen to people tell me for years that the "idiot" Bush lied to get us into a war?

 

Is there a slight chance that maybe you aren't as "in" as you think you are?

 

BTW my prejudice is not irrational, I do not want this:

 

 

youtube.com/watch?v=_cqN4NIEtOY

 

Come on...who could possible get "angry" that their Country and perhaps their life is going to be "FUNDAMENTALLY" transformed????!!!???

[Jim in Anchorage]

Whats lost here is are there people who would actually leave the house wearing a "Together We Thrive: Tucson & America" t shirt?

[IDBillzFan]

So Stewarts retort to the nitpicking of the speech was to nitpick the nitpickers...and then criticise those who questioned the pep rally atmosphere with his own cheap attempts at applause? He then picks on Hume who gave a great review of the speech but committed the "new sin" of calling a fifteen miniute long rambling diatribe that even included a shout out "a bit peculiar"??!!!??

If it's any consolation, I think those who pay close attention to this kind of stuff realize that Stewart is closet liberal who just happens to do some really funny stuff. Once in while he has to mock his own side because most people realize progressives are every bit as embarrassing as the far right. Having not watched his show lately, I'm sure (for example) that he did a very funny segment mocking people like Paul Krugman, etc. following what was probably what was the most embarrassing week for progressives in a long time.

 

Whats lost here is are there people who would actually leave the house wearing a "Together We Thrive: Tucson & America" t shirt?

As a former marketing communications/trade show person for most of my early career, believe me when I say NEVER underestimate the human need for a free t-shirt. You could hand out t-shirts that say "I'm a giant douche who has sex with turtles" and as long as the shirt was free, they'd stand in line for two hours just to get one. And get exceedingly pissed when you run out.

[Jim in Anchorage]

 

 

 

As a former marketing communications/trade show person for most of my early career, believe me when I say NEVER underestimate the human need for a free t-shirt. You could hand out t-shirts that say "I'm a giant douche who has sex with turtles" and as long as the shirt was free, they'd stand in line for two hours just to get one. And get exceedingly pissed when you run out.

Since it was in AZ and printed in English, I wonder how many of the recipients could read it anyway.

[DC Tom]

Since it was in AZ and printed in English, I wonder how many of the recipients could read it anyway.

 

It was at a university. So probably, none.

[Chef Jim]

Clearly there's a cover up going on for which the true purpose of these t-shirts is desperately being tried to be hidden.

 

Purpose being that a memorial service was used by our president as a psuedo-campaign event. It's been proven that the "Together We Thrive" slogan was originally a Obama campaign site blog title promoting marxist ideas and made into t-shirt to commemorate a memorial service part of which included memorializing the death of a nine year old little girl.

 

This is a battle that I will not ignore. We need to know if this was sheer coincidence or begin to examine how sick and twisted they really are and how far they will go.

 

It all circles back to 20 years worth of Reverend Wright's marxist teachings. Mixing spiritualism with Marx is perfectly ok. We need to know the truth here.

 

No you (*^*&%^$^#a memorial service was turned into a campaign event by the disrespectful idiots in the audience. Can't you see the difference?