dave mcbride Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I respect both of these outlets. What's the scoop on Gabbert?
Beerball Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I respect both of these outlets. What's the scoop on Gabbert? this will give you some info
Dr. Fong Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Oh I really do hope that happens. That would mean either Fairley or Dareus would be available to the Bills. Which of course would mean they're likely to pick someone completely different, but one can hope.
Bob in STL Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I respect both of these outlets. What's the scoop on Gabbert? First round maybe ... #1 overall? No Way.
dave mcbride Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 this will give you some info Very helpful - thanks. I could see him going #1 overall. I wonder what the Bills think of him. First round maybe ... #1 overall? No Way. 8 of the last 10 #1's have been QBs. The team picking #1 doesn't have a credible QB. First round maybe ... #1 overall? No Way. 8 of the last 10 #1's have been QBs. The team picking #1 doesn't have a credible QB.
H2o Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 See who Rivera brings in as his OC first and that will help to shed a little light on the situation as to how they will go. If it's some pass happy OC then maybe, but it could be a more traditional running based offense considering the RB's they have. A.J. Green? Maybe. Fairley? Maybe. Bowers? Maybe. Gabbert? Ehhhhh, I doubt it.
bills44 Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I know that the draft is still months away, but this would be great, from the Bills' perspective
dpberr Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I wonder if SI assumes there's a lockout, and therefore no free agents that Carolina could pick up at QB. Gabbert is a big stretch at #1.
Mr. WEO Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 This is the QB class that so many here touted as "much better" than last year's and this is now the leading draft prospect. Take pause.
Alphadawg7 Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I respect both of these outlets. What's the scoop on Gabbert? If he has a big combine like many expect, this very well could end up happening. I still think the most likely picks for Carolina are Fairley, Green or the highest rated DE on their board though. Simply because they have Claussen and the new staff may want to get a chance to work with him for a season before they determine they need to draft a QB this high not named Luck.
WWVaBeach Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 This guy seems to have come out of no where.
4BillsintheBurgh Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 8 of the last 10 #1's have been QBs. The team picking #1 doesn't have a credible QB. I think a rookie salary cap will change that, positional value will mean less because the dollars committed will be less. I could easily see Carolina bringing in a vet qb to keep the seat warm for a year so the new staff can evaluate claussen, moore and pike.
BoozeCruise Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 QB's go early. Ask Alex Smith. I don't think the call will be entirely Ron Rivera's either. That offense is putrid as is and their D is not as lowly as ours. I think any CBA agreements would go into affect in the 2012 draft, also. That is the reason a lot of juniors have come out early supposedly. That is part of the reason Luck got so much flack for going back.
Trader Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 This guy seems to have come out of no where. I would really worry about drafting a QB who has not won a championship or even a bowl game with the first overall pick. They likely mean somewhere in the first round.
billieve79 Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) No way Gabbert over Newton. Gabbert played in an offense that was designed to make it hard for a QB to make mistakes, yet he made many. Didn't step up in his team's 2 biggest games of regular season, which resulted in losses. Clumsy foootwork. Questions about his ability to read defenses. He's big, somewhat mobile and can make all the throws. But, he has a lot of the same question marks as Newton. Why not take Cam then over Gabbert? Newton's a freak of nature and his upside is through the roof. Edited January 12, 2011 by billieve79
Bangarang Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) No way Gabbert over Newton. Gabbert played in an offense that was designed to make it hard for a QB to make mistakes, yet he made many. Didn't step up in his team's 2 biggest games of regular season, which resulted in losses. Clumsy foootwork. Questions about his ability to read defenses. He's big, somewhat mobile and can make all the throws. But, he has a lot of the same question marks as Newton. Why not take Cam then over Gabbert? Newton's a freak of nature and his upside is through the roof. Gabbert's footwork is better than Newton's. Newton has absolutely terrible footwork. And I guess I missed the part where Newton could read a defense. That must be why he looks to the sideline so often for when his coach is calling the audible based on the defense. Somewhat mobile? He's actually very mobile and can escape the pocket to extend the play or run. Same question marks as Newton? He doesn't have the same character concerns and has had more than one year college starting under a major program. Edited January 12, 2011 by Bangarang
billieve79 Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Gabbert's footwork is better than Newton's. Newton has absolutely terrible footwork. And I guess I missed the part where Newton could read a defense. That must be why he looks to the sideline so often for when his coach is calling the audible based on the defense. Somewhat mobile? He's actually very mobile and can escape the pocket to extend the play or run. Same question marks as Newton? He doesn't have the same character concerns and has had more than one year college starting under a major program. Never claimed that Newton didn't have concerns with footwork, reading defenses etc. In fact, when I said that they have the same question marks, I was referring to footwork and reading defenses mainly. My point was that I'd rather go with the guy who's physical tools/skills are off the charts. True, Newton only started the one year, but has more big wins in that year than Gabbert in his 2 years. Winning big games is an intangible I want my QB to possess. I'm bothered by the fact the Gabbert didn't step it up in the big game.
Got_Wood Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Always be weary of the guys that shoot up the draft boards late. Typically they are guys that have all the physical attributes you want in a player. On paper, Gabbert looks like a blue chip prospect. But where it counts, he falls short. 3,186 yards, 16 TDs, 9 Ints, 63% completions. This is in a spread offense that is supposed to generate BIG numbers. Doesn't impress me much. Two years straight they lost in disappointing bowl games to Iowa in the Insight Bowl, and Navy in the Texas Bowl. And in many of the games against the biggest opponents (Nebraska, Texas, OK State), he choked. Look past all of these supposed draft experts, and you have a guy that should be in the 3rd or 4th round based on his merits.
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