Get on the record about Cam.

[dayman]

Lot's of posters here. Can't read every topic. Some posters are more vocal than others. Here is the Cam poll. Vote for how you feel about Cam for the Bills. This isn't anything about Cam personally or in college. This is about the draft and future of the Bills.

 

This poll is public. Everyone will see how you voted. Click the "view" button next to the results in the poll to see who voted how if you are interested.

 

Obviously feel free to post in here further thoughts on why or whatever you feel the way you do...if nothing else that can keep it quasi-bumped just to get solid poll results.

Edited January 11, 2011 by dayman

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Guy's a TE.

[Alphadawg7]

I voted for grab him if he falls to us in the 2nd, but I would also be ok with it if we traded back and loaded up on draft picks and took him later in the first. I am not sold on him, in fact, the only reason I find him even intriguing is because of Chans track record with QB's, especially mobile QB's.

[markgbe]

please no. He's not good.

[The Wiz]

I went with trading back. I think they are better off getting Fairley with the 3rd,I'm sure I spelled that wrong, but I really don't think that either of the two picks in front will pass on him so there isn't a lot up top that "extremely" stands out worth a 3rd round pick and fills our needs (I'm sure there are but I'm not a draft guru and only pull up little tid bits). Carolina is awful everywhere and Denver has always built their teams defense first.

 

If Fairley is there at 3, Cam isn't a need at this point. We lost 6 games by 8 points or less. I feel like the offense can hang on to the game if the defense was a little bit better and he would be a huge upgrade.

Edited January 11, 2011 by The Wiz

[Kipers Hair]

He's an interesting proposition for the Bills as he is oddly the best solution to give Fitzpatrick the reigns for 2-3 more years while getting Newton up to speed on the pro game. That said, with all of our needs, I would not touch him until after we grab a solid defensive contributor - 2nd round would be good value.

[KD in CA]

'Trading back up' has been a cornerstone of Bills draft day fiascos for the past decade. Giving up a king's ransom to draft a probably-will-miss project in the late first round is a recipe for failure --- think about how many picks where flushed down the toilet in exchange for Losman and McCargo.

 

 

[Bangarang]

No thanks..

[JohnC]

No thanks..

 

If you get a chance to draft a talented franchise qb then you need to seize the opportunity. I get tired of the argument that the Bills need an immediate impact player. That argument doesn't hold for me because it is not unusual that rookies, even highly drafted rookies, don't contribute right away. Last year, the Bills drafted in the #9 spot. There was no rookie on our roster who made an immediate impact. That certainly doesn't mean that in the long run last year's draft class can't develop into good players.

 

Cam Newton reminds me of Ben Rothlesberger. He has the size, strength of arm and accuracy. How many times will the Bills be in position to draft as talented a franchise qb? If the Bills address their long term qb need in the first round they then can address their manifold defensive needs with the rest of the draft and in free agency.

 

Teams that have sustained success usually have their qb positon staffed with exceptionally talented qbs. Fitz is a good guy, but he certainly doesn't fall into being an impactful player.

 

The Bills are many years from being a serious playoff team. One way to get on the right path is to invest now in drafting a legitimate franchise qb and then systematically filling our other needs.

[dayman]

If you get a chance to draft a talented franchise qb then you need to seize the opportunity. I get tired of the argument that the Bills need an immediate impact player. That argument doesn't hold for me because it is not unusual that rookies, even highly drafted rookies, don't contribute right away. Last year, the Bills drafted in the #9 spot. There was no rookie on our roster who made an immediate impact. That certainly doesn't mean that in the long run last year's draft class can't develop into good players.

 

Cam Newton reminds me of Ben Rothlesberger. He has the size, strength of arm and accuracy. How many times will the Bills be in position to draft as talented a franchise qb? If the Bills address their long term qb need in the first round they then can address their manifold defensive needs with the rest of the draft and in free agency.

 

Teams that have sustained success usually have their qb positon staffed with exceptionally talented qbs. Fitz is a good guy, but he certainly doesn't fall into being an impactful player.

 

The Bills are many years from being a serious playoff team. One way to get on the right path is to invest now in drafting a legitimate franchise qb and then systematically filling our other needs.

 

Newton is Big Ben/Franchise Man and Fitz is not an "impactful player?"

 

Man...good thing we don't have beers and watch the games together. I don't think we see the game the same at all.

[C.Biscuit97]

please no. He's not good.

 

 

Yeah, what did he really accomplish this year anyways? What a loser!!!

 

If Fairley is on the board, it's a no brainer. Otherwise, I'm not sold on anyone else at #3. But given track record with ordinary talents at QB, it makes you wonder what he could do with an uber talent like Newton.

 

He has his warts but he has everything you would ever want in a QB. I hope the Bills do a ton of homework on the guy but IMO, it's hard to pass on a rare talent like this.

[boyst]

I voted no on getting him and being set at QB. Why?

I do not think he warrants a pick for us in any position before the 3rd. We have much more important aspects we need to focus on and there really isn't a difference between him and many of the other QB's in the draft. I kind of hope we either bring in a FA or pick up a UDFA.

[Beerball]

I wouldn't take him before round 3 & I would still be nervous.

[Sabre Bill]

Guy's a TE.

 

Maybe. An athletic TE is certainly a Bills need. What makes us think he can catch?

 

I voted for grab him if he falls to us in the 2nd, but I would also be ok with it if we traded back and loaded up on draft picks and took him later in the first. I am not sold on him, in fact, the only reason I find him even intriguing is because of Chans track record with QB's, especially mobile QB's.

 

Maybe.

 

please no. He's not good.

 

Not this.

 

He's an interesting proposition for the Bills as he is oddly the best solution to give Fitzpatrick the reigns for 2-3 more years while getting Newton up to speed on the pro game. That said, with all of our needs, I would not touch him until after we grab a solid defensive contributor - 2nd round would be good value.

 

Maybe.

 

 

 

Not sure how the Bills would choose to use him, but he's a versatile athlete and a winner. Don't like him any higher than our 2nd - not the right guy to trade up for unless FO sees him as the future at QB. I think the more obvious choices are big burly men in rounds 1 through 7!!!!

[JohnC]

Newton is Big Ben/Franchise Man and Fitz is not an "impactful player?"

 

Man...good thing we don't have beers and watch the games together. I don't think we see the game the same at all.

 

Fitz is a below average qb with a lot of moxie. Nothing more. Whether I'm drinking beer or soda pop watching the games with you we would probably still have a very different view of what we each have witnessed.

 

Compared to the atrocious performances of Edwards and Losman Fitz played at a credible level. But that isn't saying much. As I have frequently stated and strongly believe when you get an opportunity to draft a talented qb you should seize the opportunity. I watched at least five games in which Newton played this season. In every one of those tough and talent rich SEC games he was the most impactful player on the field.

[Lockport Bills]

 

Yeah, what did he really accomplish this year anyways? What a loser!!!

 

If Fairley is on the board, it's a no brainer. Otherwise, I'm not sold on anyone else at #3. But given track record with ordinary talents at QB, it makes you wonder what he could do with an uber talent like Newton.

 

He has his warts but he has everything you would ever want in a QB. I hope the Bills do a ton of homework on the guy but IMO, it's hard to pass on a rare talent like this.

 

+1

[jr1]

Here's some opinions of some scouts and pundits on Cam and the NFL

[DC Grid]

I think he's likely to bust, doesn't show big potential to be a prototype NFL passer, and has poor character. But as a second round pick he's like a lottery ticket when the powerball is high, worth the risk.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

I voted no on getting him and being set at QB. Why?

I do not think he warrants a pick for us in any position before the 3rd. We have much more important aspects we need to focus on and there really isn't a difference between him and many of the other QB's in the draft. I kind of hope we either bring in a FA or pick up a UDFA.

 

Witchu, jboyst62. I think we really need a veteran who may no longer be every-game durable, but can come in and play at the drop of a flag, to back up Fitz.

Brohm may have the stuff to develop into a decent NFL QB in a pocket-passer system with a veteran OL but we ain't got that here.

 

I also like the NE system of sifting through promising UDFA and occasional late-rounders until you find a gem to polish in the background.

[Dr. Fong]

What I don't understand about Newton is why are so many people on his bandwagon. To me he's behind where Tebow was last year and many had Tebow being no more than a third rounder.