Dan Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Got any stats to back that up? 2009 32 sacks 2010 27 sacks Is 5 sacks difference drastic? 2009 - 2501 rushing yards against 2010 - 2714 rushing yards against Is 213 yards drastic? 2009 - 2948 passing yards against 2010 - 3072 passing yards against 124 yards difference.. still not drastic.. So I conclude that losing Schobel was not a drastic loss especially since we also have a whole different defensive scheme. Looks like I stand corrected, Edwards is a good coach and Schobel is over rated.
Bills4154 Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I would assume DC which I would love over our own schmuck Yes, I hope he interviews for DC!
dave mcbride Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Got any stats to back that up? 2009 32 sacks 2010 27 sacks Is 5 sacks difference drastic? 2009 - 2501 rushing yards against 2010 - 2714 rushing yards against Is 213 yards drastic? 2009 - 2948 passing yards against 2010 - 3072 passing yards against 124 yards difference.. still not drastic.. So I conclude that losing Schobel was not a drastic loss especially since we also have a whole different defensive scheme. Actually, when you combine all of these together, the numbers are significant. More importantly, note how you left out the all important category of turnovers, many of which are the result of d-line pressure.
3rdand12 Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 What i have read about Wannstedt is that he has coached most all the positions at some point at Def and Off. Obviously HC too. He would be an asset if employed correctly. Heck maybe Chan would bring him on as OC? So he ( Mr. Gailey )could now focus on the Project Bills Superbowlers' as a whole. I think we mostly agree Chan has evaluated his players and staff this season. Quote from above "Making mistakes isn't nearly as bad as failing to correct them." good call. I have a renewed enthusiasm for the Bills recently. Quite alot actually. Although we are adjusting with what we had coming in pre C. Gailey, and had a poor season, but kinda fun, we are going to have more better next year. We have to keep G.E. I cant believe that we know what he can do yet. He deserves another go at it. If this year does not improve alot on defense he will see it coming, his walking papers at the end of next season. Buddy and Chan will try to give what he thinks he needs this year to succeed. Be it coaches or players. If Wannstedt can offer some big upgrade somewhere for us i bet we tender him an offer. But that could also be said of the many coaches that are available Logic says to me.. no we do not get him. he is more valuable to others. imho
bkc Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 bingo Not sure I would want to switch back ,but fairley /williams combo in a 4/3 would sweet anything is possible, Belichick was listed as a DB coach with the Jets so it is all relative I guess. The more good coaches the better
8-8 Forever? Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I dont think we're completely sold on, nor too far invested in, any particular scheme. We could easily be going back 4-3
rpcolosi Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 this isn't a bad idea, if he is willing to run some 3-4 as well. I'd love George as our DC and Wannstedet as our Asst Head Coach. I think the 2 of htem could scheme up some good things. Also, Wannstedet would really take the load off of Gailey on the D side of the ball. They worked together in Miami if I'm not mistaken. would love to see this happen....
BillsVet Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Seriously Dude? Have you ever heard the expression, "you can't make a cake without breaking a few eggs"? Or, how about "you can't win if you don't try?" Give Chan and Buddy some credit. It's their first year! They are making mistakes, but obviously see the mistakes and are taking immediate and decisive action to fix them. Everyone screws up, it's what you do after you screw up that makes the difference. Or perhaps you can't build a team without busting a few first and second rounders, right? If I was George Edwards and heard the team wanted to talk to Wannstedt about a coaching job, even if it wasn't DC, I'd grow eyes in the back of my head. The fact Buffalo might only be interested in him as an ILB/AHC tells me they're not enthused with the way he coached. And you can be darn sure Edwards knows this, because this interest clarifies that. And for the record, at the NFL level when you make mistakes, the results transfer onto the field real fast. No one executive or team is perfect, but the good ones don't make a lot of bad decisions. Buffalo has for many years now and the result is obvious whereas teams like NE, BAL, ATL, IND, GB, et al aren't known for huge mistakes in personnel or schematically.
BillsObserver Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I'm all for this. But why in the world would he pass up a really good defense in San Diego?
Malazan Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I bet he'd still be an improvement over George Edwards. Ralph, is that you?
Bangarang Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I'm all for this. But why in the world would he pass up a really good defense in San Diego? He and Chan are really good friends.
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I'm all for this. But why in the world would he pass up a really good defense in San Diego? I love Buffalo with all my heart, but it would be really hard to pass up all the goodness in SD. At the same time, I believe SD is strictly a 3-4 team. He might like the flexiblity to help put his imprint on the Buffalo d. Also, AJ Smith isn't the easiet guy to work for.
basskik11 Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Tweet from Schefter: RT @1BBFAN: Is the Bills DC in trouble with news of Wannstedt talking to Buffalo? ... Not at all. Different role. Wannstedt, Gailey close. interesting/confusing
Heitz Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Tweet from Schefter: RT @1BBFAN: Is the Bills DC in trouble with news of Wannstedt talking to Buffalo? ... Not at all. Different role. Wannstedt, Gailey close. interesting/confusing But, but - what about all of the theories / conspiracies already posted in this thread!?!
Bills#23Iowa Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 It wouldn't hurt to have him as the assistant Head Coach, while Chan focuses on the offense/playcalling. #OkBye
MattyT Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Ugh...why don't they just bring in a real DC instead of dicking around with an asst HC? Afraid to hurt coach Edwards feelings? Edited January 12, 2011 by MattyT
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 A guy with the experience of DW is not coming to Buffalo to be a linebackers coach. The thinking may be more like this: DW as assistant head coach. GE as DC. May or may not hire new ILB coach or let Sanders coach LB. DW quietly takes over many of the DC duties that GE is over his head on and frees Chan to focus on O, his passion. What happens when the coaching staff div's up their duties, stays with the coaching staff Everybody saves face. I would love this.
nobody Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 The thinking may be more like this: DW as assistant head coach. GE as DC. May or may not hire new ILB coach or let Sanders coach LB. DW quietly takes over many of the DC duties that GE is over his head on and frees Chan to focus on O, his passion. What happens when the coaching staff div's up their duties, stays with the coaching staff Everybody saves face. I would love this. So similar to how Curtis Modkins is the OC but Chan makes all the O decisions.
Nuncha Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 This makes zero sense, and I call shenanigans. Wannstedt is strictly a 4-3 guy. Going back to a 4-3 is a possibility...........
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 So similar to how Curtis Modkins is the OC but Chan makes all the O decisions. Something like that. I agree with the folks who say Edwards is over his head. I also agree with the folks who say Chan can't fire him after 1 year - he'd look like a fool. It wouldn't work except with someone Chan is very much "on the page" with. DW could be that guy.
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