BuffaloBillsForever Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Anybody watching the Ravens vs Chiefs would notice the impact of how a high draft safety should have on a team. This guy is all over the field making plays. Now that I think of it, when do you see Whitner deflect any passes?
KD in CA Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Yeah, he looks like a player. In fact I like this whole Chiefs team -- they are young and seem to have a lot of talent.
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Anybody watching the Ravens vs Chiefs would notice the impact of how a high draft safety should have on a team. This guy is all over the field making plays. Now that I think of it, when do you see Whitner deflect any passes? He's also making $10 million per year, he should be making plays.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Earl Thomas in Seattle has also had a major impact this year as a rookie safety. And that's on a team with a marginal front 7. Both of those guys are gonna be great players for a long time.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 He's also making $10 million per year, he should be making plays. Ha,Ha,Ha Goodone. Oh they have a PASS RUSH also. I pity the fool.
colin Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 he's a super star, and was touted as such since like 10 games into his college career. i don't think anyone wouldn't take a do over with whitner at this point, that horse is pretty dead and should stop being beaten.
High Mark Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 He's also making $10 million per year, he should be making plays. So when can I start counting on Whitner to earn his money?
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 EB is going to be a very good player but the Ravens are throwing at him a lot. Heap is having a big game.
Green Lightning Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 he's a super star, and was touted as such since like 10 games into his college career. i don't think anyone wouldn't take a do over with whitner at this point, that horse is pretty dead and should stop being beaten. Thanks for saving me the time to write that. Very well put.
dgrid Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 saw alot of tackles w/ him and Tamba Hali So would that be a HALI BERRY tackle??
NoSaint Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 he's a super star, and was touted as such since like 10 games into his college career. i don't think anyone wouldn't take a do over with whitner at this point, that horse is pretty dead and should stop being beaten. Unfortunately, now that whitner wants more money, he has re-lit the debate. The idea that it wasn't his fault he was drafted there is out the window now that he's telling the front office he has earned the money that polamula, reed, etc... Are getting. Had he accepted a healthy above average payment plan going forward we would be fine. Problem is, he is saying he deserves the respect of the top ten pick, the probowl, all pro selections etc.
Malazan Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Unfortunately, now that whitner wants more money, he has re-lit the debate. The idea that it wasn't his fault he was drafted there is out the window now that he's telling the front office he has earned the money that polamula, reed, etc... Are getting. Had he accepted a healthy above average payment plan going forward we would be fine. Problem is, he is saying he deserves the respect of the top ten pick, the probowl, all pro selections etc. The nail and hammer head have met
BuffaloBillsForever Posted January 10, 2011 Author Posted January 10, 2011 I noticed Berry is much better in space. Overall I thought he had a decent game.
Erik Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Unfortunately, now that whitner wants more money, he has re-lit the debate. The idea that it wasn't his fault he was drafted there is out the window now that he's telling the front office he has earned the money that polamula, reed, etc... Are getting. Had he accepted a healthy above average payment plan going forward we would be fine. Problem is, he is saying he deserves the respect of the top ten pick, the probowl, all pro selections etc. Who cares about that as long as we aren't the ones that overpay for him?
silvermike Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Berry's performance at least sort of justifies the Whitner pick - he's showing that adding a rookie safety with a high pick can really energize your defense. The problem then switches to the Bills' inability to identify whether or not Donte was an elite safety, and not their blunder in drafting a safety at all instead of a lineman.
Max997 Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 He's also making $10 million per year, he should be making plays. and Whitner averaged what, 8.5 million? I guess that isnt enough to expect him to be making plays
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) and Whitner averaged what, 8.5 million? I guess that isnt enough to expect him to be making plays 8/5/2006: Signed a five-year, $29 million contract. The deal includes $13.5 million guaranteed. 2009: $2.355 million, 2010: $2.445 million, 2011: $1.95075 million (Voidable Year), 2012: Free Agent http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_contract.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3691 Averages $5.8 per year, you had the "8" and the "5" right, just in the wrong order. And actually Berry signed a 5 year $60 million deal, an average of $12 million per year. I guess my point is that the price Whitner is asking for, reportedly around $7 million, is not what "elite" safeties are making. The new standard has been set by Berry, Polamalu and Reed's are not comparable as both were signed over 3 years ago. Antrel Rolle signed a contract last offseason giving him $7.4 million per season. What he's reportedly asking for is the new market price for average to good safeties. Edited January 10, 2011 by Ghost of Rob Johnson
Bill from NYC Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 8/5/2006: Signed a five-year, $29 million contract. The deal includes $13.5 million guaranteed. 2009: $2.355 million, 2010: $2.445 million, 2011: $1.95075 million (Voidable Year), 2012: Free Agent http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_contract.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3691 Averages $5.8 per year, you had the "8" and the "5" right, just in the wrong order. I would think that for this kind of money a play or 2 would be in order as well.
GOBILLS78 Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 he's a super star, and was touted as such since like 10 games into his college career. i don't think anyone wouldn't take a do over with whitner at this point, that horse is pretty dead and should stop being beaten. Didn't the University of Tennessee get a verbal commitment from his younger brother when the kid was still in sixth or seventh grade?
Doc Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Berry's performance at least sort of justifies the Whitner pick - he's showing that adding a rookie safety with a high pick can really energize your defense. The problem then switches to the Bills' inability to identify whether or not Donte was an elite safety, and not their blunder in drafting a safety at all instead of a lineman. True. At some point the onus is on the player(s).
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