Buffaloed in Pa Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 It`s stroud. The dude looks like a stiff old dinosaur out there.Throw in Akin and and Reggie Torbor.Yeah Whitner and Poz are NOT on MY list.Stroud is done. I`m just talking starters or players who played alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 No. McCargo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 It`s stroud. The dude looks like a stiff old dinosaur out there.Throw in Akin and and Reggie Torbor.Yeah Whitner and Poz are NOT on MY list.Stroud is done. I`m just talking starters or players who played alot. WhaT? No. McCargo. McCargo wasn`t a starter,or got much playing time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) It`s stroud. The dude looks like a stiff old dinosaur out there.Throw in Akin and and Reggie Torbor.Yeah Whitner and Poz are NOT on MY list.Stroud is done. I`m just talking starters or players who played alot. Once your cut your cut. No level of intensity on the cutting. Just cut or not cut. Maybe the news wire report can put it in BOLD and say they were cut, not waived? Edited January 9, 2011 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I'd say cut some people further down on the depth chart. THEN move a few of our starters down the depth chart, and get new guys who are better. Depth is important, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 WhaT? McCargo wasn`t a starter,or got much playing time ? My apologies; I didn't read your last sentence very carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Blizzard Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 It`s stroud. The dude looks like a stiff old dinosaur out there.Throw in Akin and and Reggie Torbor.Yeah Whitner and Poz are NOT on MY list.Stroud is done. I`m just talking starters or players who played alot. McCargo. What a waste of a draft pick . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I'd say cut some people further down on the depth chart. THEN move a few of our starters down the depth chart, and get new guys who are better. Depth is important, imo. When you're right, you're right. Cut the non-contributors 1st. If a guy knows the system and can play at all, he's called "depth" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 My apologies; I didn't read your last sentence very carefully. No problem I do it all the time. Old age creeping in I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 No. McCargo. McCargo is gone, but he was a non-factor. I agree that Stroud needs to go. Between the unknown replacement and Stroud, I'll take the unknown. I know what Stroud brings to the table. Which is not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) I'd say cut some people further down on the depth chart. THEN move a few of our starters down the depth chart, and get new guys who are better. Depth is important, imo. If you cut the worst players then you should get that effect. The problem the Bills have is part 2 - getting better players than the ones we curently have as starters. Example: Today we have major needs at DE (replace Stroud or Kelsey), OLB (replace Kelsey or whoever), ILB (replace Adeleye or Davis), ROT (replace Wrotto or whoever), and TE (replace Stupar or whoever). That does not even address QB or LOT which are also questionable. It is unrealistic to assume that we can upgrade all of these positions with one draft and get 5 rookies to come in and start and provide instant help. If we lose Whitner, Poz and Florence we will only add to the number of positions we have to backfill, let alone upgrade. To see a major improvement in one year we need ALL of the following to happen: 1 - Significant free agent signings were we bring in a few solid starters (helps us to draft BPA and not for need) 2 - A monster draft were we get a few more starters and add to the depth with good prospects 3 - Last years rookie prospects to improve and beat out the people in front of them. Hearing that Buddy plans on napping through free agency, it is no wonder why he is saying it will take years to turn this arounnd. Edited January 9, 2011 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 McCargo. What a waste of a draft pick . . . Hard to understand....he looked so good at NC State with Mario Williams getting double teamed every play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 When you're right, you're right. Cut the non-contributors 1st. If a guy knows the system and can play at all, he's called "depth" Conversely, if you can't play, you're not depth. Cut Stroud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 The only way I think Stroud doesn't come back is if the #3 pick is used on a 3-4 DE, so Fairley or Dareus, or if a free agent NT is brought in and Kyle Williams is moved to DE (Solai?). If there was someone better on the roster they would have been playing ahead of him at the end of the season. Perhaps next year he splits more time with an improved Carrington, but I think he'll be on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 If you cut the worst players then you should get that effect. The problem the Bills have is part 2 - getting better players than the ones we curently have as starters. Example: Today we have major needs at DE (replace Stroud or Kelsey), OLB (replace Kelsey or whoever), ILB (replace Adeleye or Davis), ROT (replace Wrotto or whoever), and TE (replace Stupar or whoever). That does not even address QB or LOT which are also questionable. It is unrealistic to assume that we can upgrade all of these positions with one draft and get 5 rookies to come in and start and provide instant help. If we lose Whitner, Poz and Florence we will only add to the number of positions we have to backfill, let alone upgrade. To see a major improvement in one year we need ALL of the following to happen: 1 - Significant free agent signings were we bring in a few solid starters (helps us to draft BPA and not for need) 2 - A monster draft were we get a few more starters and add to the depth with good prospects 3 - Last years rookie prospects to improve and beat out the people in front of them. Hearing that Buddy plans on napping through free agency, it is no wonder why he is saying it will take years to turn this arounnd. Agree on all points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Conversely, if you can't play, you're not depth. Cut Stroud. Stroud wasn't pushed out of a job, so who replaces him? I agree he's a liability these days yet unless serious talent is brought in, he may be the best option as much as I'd like to be able to wish him farewell. Stroud, a vet, won't be viable depth unless his pay is adjusted to be paid like veteran depth. When he no longer starts, he would be a cut far more likely than being "depth". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 McCargo. What a waste of a draft pick . . . Multiple draft picks actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Can you cut guys who's contracts have expired? Maybin and Kelsay for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Can you cut guys who's contracts have expired? Maybin and Kelsay for me. I don't see why you couldn't fax the paperwork to the league office for emphasis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 The player that needs to be cut the most is the same player who has needed to be cut the last three years. He's also the player we keep giving contract extensions to. Chris Kelsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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