FistingBot Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 I am not sure that we should assume that he will go #1 next year. He may not have as great a season, or get injured, or other great players might show up (QB, DE, OL, RB) etc. In other words, we might not need to be first in the draft order to get Luck. Having said that, I'd be surprised if he dropped lower than #5. I have to say that his decision only heightens my respect for him. I am a college professor, and take education seriously. I am really pleased by the message this sends to young kids in America. ... but an economist might not be pleased with his decision to stay in school. If one assumes, for example, that a good quarterback on average plays until he is 35 (i.e. each player has a fixed amount of time that he will be athletically gifted enough to play in the league) then by not coming out he is shaving one year off of his total career. This, of course, negatively impacts his cumulative earnings (ignoring the myriad of other things that could impact earning potential). There really is no good economic reason for staying in school if you are likely to be the #1 overall pick. A player can finish his education whenever he retires or during the off-season (and, of course, many do).
bbb Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 2.) When was the last time a "knee" ended a QBs career? Luck would have to break his neck or get his throwing arm amputated to drop in draft position. It didn't end it, but it seemed that Carson Palmer was 3rd only to Brady and Manning in 2005 (I think that was the year) and hasn't been the same since.
Malazan Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 This just jacked up every mock draft in America. It's almost enough to make you think a mock draft prior to the season being over is a STUPID idea.
Austin_Bills_Fan Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 great news. Take the temptation off the table so Buddy can focus on finding a real pass rusher or RT. Totally agree.. Now we can focus on actual needs of the team and let Fitz lead the Bills to the playoffs next season...
thebug Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 :unsure: Is there an analogy in there somewhere....? Sorry Fez, I have no idea how that ending up replying to your post. It was meant for the Chris Farley comment.
agardin Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 It didn't end it, but it seemed that Carson Palmer was 3rd only to Brady and Manning in 2005 (I think that was the year) and hasn't been the same since. Dante won a co MVP award, blew out his knee and was never the same. But your point is well taken, there aren't many examples
KD in CA Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Its just poor logic, is what it is. He can get an education the rest of his life after football or in the offseason. Besides, the entire point most people make when they say "Its so important to get a good education", is because it offers you the opportunity to get a better job to make more money. He had the opportunity to make the most money he ever will make, so to not take that is just downright illogical, especially considering he could go back to school at any point in time. Some people value education for reasons beyond the ability to earn more money.
karl malones other son Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 If he's as good as everyone says he is he will make his money eventually. Good for him...assuming he sticks to this. Still can change his mind. PTR While the chance of Luck declaring for the NFL Draft still exists, he won't. By deciding to return to college ball, Luck is not only increasing his opportunity for sustaining a career-ending injury, he is also passing on the LAST potential guaranteed $60 million contract. While Andrew Luck's "college try" spirit inspires the romantic side in all of us, it's an unreasonable risk and one that I struggle to understand. Betta' Have Mah Dohnuts
bbb Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Some people value education for reasons beyond the ability to earn more money. I believe Leinert's was to get laid, right?
3rdand12 Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 This is good and bad. I wonder if this is all manipulated to drive us crazy by the Powers that be. PTR mentioned to me once that there will always be seemingly franchise QBs. every draft season. We just cannot go 0-whatever next year. just because. So how could we get Luck the next year? I bet i am not the only person considering this. Much less other coaches and team FO's
Roc Bronson Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 With all the writing on this board about Luck, I wouldn't be shock if a few of our fellow posters end up on top of a building or the tallest bridge they can find.. Sorry but some seem to worship this kid.. But good for him.
KD in CA Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 While the chance of Luck declaring for the NFL Draft still exists, he won't. By deciding to return to college ball, Luck is not only increasing his opportunity for sustaining a career-ending injury, he is also passing on the LAST potential guaranteed $60 million contract. While Andrew Luck's "college try" spirit inspires the romantic side in all of us, it's an unreasonable risk and one that I struggle to understand. Betta' Have Mah Dohnuts There sure seem to be a lot of people who don't understand the concept of insurance. Luck will have a very large policy in place before he steps back on a field. Also, there is no gaurantee that 2011 draftees won't be subject to a new salary structure.
stevestojan Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 There sure seem to be a lot of people who don't understand the concept of insurance. Luck will have a very large policy in place before he steps back on a field. Also, there is no gaurantee that 2011 draftees won't be subject to a new salary structure. I guess I don't understand insurance in this case then Will he get $20-$60MM if his ACL goes snap next year? I'm honestly asking since I don't know who in the world would insure him for that?
flmike Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 I am not sure that we should assume that he will go #1 next year. He may not have as great a season, or get injured, or other great players might show up (QB, DE, OL, RB) etc. In other words, we might not need to be first in the draft order to get Luck. Having said that, I'd be surprised if he dropped lower than #5. I have to say that his decision only heightens my respect for him. I am a college professor, and take education seriously. I am really pleased by the message this sends to young kids in America. Hey I'm a college professor too, and I agree. In football terms, it's also smart. He was only finishing his sophomore year for goodness sake.
LancasterSteve Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 No biggie. Chances are that either Bowers or Fairley will fall to us, and if not, there's always Dareus. The Sporting News has us taking Anthony Castonzo T Boston College. Bowers #1 Fairley #2
Campy Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Gotta respect his decision. He understands the value of an education. But to walk away from the amount of money that he is going to walk away from and set your family up for life is admirable yet leaves me scratching my head a little bit. Nonetheless, kudos to Luck for sticking to his guns. His family is fairly well-off from what I've read. And he'll make his money, just not yet...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Dante won a co MVP award, blew out his knee and was never the same. But your point is well taken, there aren't many examples Actually, one could argue that it was Randy Moss being traded to the Raiders that led to Culpepper never being the same. Culpepper blew his knee out the first year without Moss and when he blew his knee out he had just 7 TD's (6 passing, 1 rushing) and 15 turnovers (12 INT's and 3 lost fumbles) and had a record of 2-4 going into the 7th game where he was knocked out in the first quarter. The year before with Moss he was Co-MVP with 39 TD's and 11 INT's...he also added 2 more TD's rushing that year. He looked terrible that year without Moss prior to his knee, so hard to say what "really" was the cause of the demise of Culpepper.
bananathumb Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Wow, would I be pissed if I was a Carolina fan. Just a possibility but Luck has until Jan 15 to change his mind. Let's say Harbaugh went to Carolina or even Denver ... I admire Luck for being able to resist the temptation and pursue his educational goal.
ajzepp Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Some of you guys are like the people on Deal or No Deal who open too many damn suitcases.
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