Setting the High Standard for Humane Processing of Horses

[Guest three3]

At 3:30 PST, a group of representatives from U.S. and Canadian animal science and humane livestock handling organizations, as well as federal and state livestock processing regulatory agencies will convene at the South Point Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada for a discussion entitled "Setting the High Standard for Humane Processing of Horses." The "processing" part of the equation entails the slaughter and butchery of the animals for the purpose of human consumption.

 

The panel, which is being held as part of a four day Summit of the Horse includes representatives from American Humane, the Humane Handling and Assessment Tool Project, the United States Department of Agriculture and the Canadian Food Inspection Agency. The issue at hand has stirred passionate and polar arguments from those who see horse meat - especially that of wild mustangs who are seen by some as an invasive species - as a cheap, viable source of food for hungry Americans, and wild horse advocates who see the slaughter of these animals as cruel and unnecessary.

 

Horse meat holds a particular taboo in American culture, but is a not uncommon element of French, Belgian, Swiss, Japanese, Chinese and even Canadian cuisine. It's praised for its leanness and sweetness, and pending the outcome of the summit, might spark a reconsideration of the Restore Our Mustangs Act which prohibits the processing of wild horses or burros for slaughter

[ajzepp]

 

Horse meat holds a particular taboo in American culture, but is a not uncommon element of French, Belgian, Swiss, Japanese, Chinese and even Canadian cuisine. It's praised for its leanness and sweetness, and pending the outcome of the summit, might spark a reconsideration of the Restore Our Mustangs Act which prohibits the processing of wild horses or burros for slaughter

 

Is there anything the Chinese WON'T eat?

[Cugalabanza]

Put me down on the side that says the slaughter of wild horses is cruel and unnecessary.

[Guest three3]

Put me down on the side that says the slaughter of wild horses is cruel and unnecessary.

 

do you eat animals? how is the slaughter of those animals any less cruel than the slaughter of horses?

[Cugalabanza]

do you eat animals?

I don't eat beef or chicken or pork. I do eat some fish.

[LeviF]

Put me down on the side that says the slaughter of wild horses is cruel and unnecessary.

Then the obvious solution is to factory farm horses as well as cows, chickens, etc, clearly.

 

Hey, they won't be wild anymore!

[boyst]

O M F G

Did you do this just to get me to rage?! This is not the PPP board so I will try to maintain some civility, but idealists like you piss me off.

 

I am a commercial beef farmer if you did not know. Farmers are not evil people. I do not punish my cows, I do not pack them in huge lots of other animals and torture them. I invite any of you to my farm if ever in central NC to see so.

 

You're worried about mustangs? Trust me, this harvesting of horses is not to go out there and make that indian in the poster cry. According to the gov there are 33,700 in the US and 26,000 in Canada. This project is not to go after these horses. This entire project is to allow farmers and owners to have an option to sell their horses instead of having to pay to take them to the propper disposal center. Horse meat used to be used in many products; dog food, fish food, and other industrial uses. Now you cannot harvest a horse and the last US plant to harvest horses has closed almost a decade ago. (If you didn't know, you can take them to Canada, still, if nearby).

 

This is not strictly for meat. The EU has banned importation of horse meat. Don't get butthurt because other countries have their preferences have their own tastes. Many other countries have their own ideas on what is food it is not your right to deem that for others.

 

To suggest that this will solve the costs of food is a joke. Really? Horse meat is going to be so cheap that it will be more affordable then McD's? That it will be commercially available and cheaper then beef is pure speculation. Turkey is the cheapest meat available and will be nearly impossible to beat.

 

Learn some facts, stop being such a liberal puppet, go back to your PETA meeting, and leave this topic alone. I put half an ounce of thought in to this, if required, I will recite quotes from sources and make sure you understand how foolish your worries are...because really, you have nothing to worry about, your precious mustangs will be ok.

 

tl,dr:

This is to allow for the processing of commercial horses for a business purpose only. You hippies who want to tell others what to eat because of your "morals" shows how illogical and immoral you are.

Edited January 6, 2011 by jboyst62

[ajzepp]

dang, jboyst lol

Edited January 6, 2011 by ajzepp

[Jim in Anchorage]

They make good glue.

[Chef Jim]

I don't eat beef or chicken or pork. I do eat some fish.

 

Have you seen how fish are "slaughtered"? I have no problem with eating horse. I've never had it but what's the big deal? How many here have eaten deer? I bet it's safe to say most of us have. What's the difference?

 

Salle de chaval roti avec champinion savage. Mmm-mmmm good.

[KD in CA]

- as a cheap, viable source of food for hungry Americans

Yeah, right. We are so short of food in this country we need to start slaughtering horses to feed people.

[Guest three3]

Have you seen how fish are "slaughtered"? I have no problem with eating horse. I've never had it but what's the big deal? How many here have eaten deer? I bet it's safe to say most of us have. What's the difference?

 

Salle de chaval roti avec champinion savage. Mmm-mmmm good.

 

all pro fukken take right there, chef jim

[boyst]

dang, jboyst lol

I respect peoples choice to eat whatever they want and they should respect others. PETA has made this entire event about the ethical slaughtering of horses to be about the Mustangs when in fact it is to allow for a horse owner to recoup the thousands of dollars spent on each animal. You cannot slaughter a downed animal (off the racetrack, etc), you cannot slaughter a sick animal (anitbiotics must be clearly withdrawn from the animal), you cannot feed them steroids any more, either.

 

A horse will yield far less efficient meat then turkeys, cows, deer, or even pigs. Pigs yield the lowest percent of those just mentioned. Cows are second. It costs more to raise a cow to its harvest weight (1100 for Angus and European breeds, 1250 for Hereford, Charolais and common continental breeds). The cost to feed a pig is far lower then a cow, and chickens far beneath that. Turkey, chicken and pork is also much cheaper because of the monopolies in those industries by the big companies (Tyson, Smithfield, etc).

 

I've never had it but what's the big deal? How many here have eaten deer?

I would love to try some of your dried jerkies. A good jerky cooker is something amazing. Deer jerky remains one of my favorite meats no matter how much steak I eat. If I had a way to send you some beef I would love to do so just to let you see what you think of it, but dry ice only gets it as far as Missouri.

Edited January 6, 2011 by jboyst62

[GoodBye]

Kind of off topic...I keep accidentally shooting my horse while trying to shoot at birds in "Red Dead." I don't think I could be a good rancher.

[ajzepp]

Kind of off topic...I keep accidentally shooting my horse while trying to shoot at birds in "Red Dead." I don't think I could be a good rancher.

 

[Guest three3]

Kind of off topic...I keep accidentally shooting my horse while trying to shoot at birds in "Red Dead." I don't think I could be a good rancher.

 

i've been meaning to get into RDR but the sports games have been in heavy rotation. from the bit i played when it first came out i remember slaughtering all sorts of animals. i wonder what peta's take on RDR is..

[Booster4324]

Kind of off topic...I keep accidentally shooting my horse while trying to shoot at birds in "Red Dead." I don't think I could be a good rancher.

 

Well, one thing is for sure, you would not travel far. Should eat well though.

[ajzepp]

i've been meaning to get into RDR but the sports games have been in heavy rotation. from the bit i played when it first came out i remember slaughtering all sorts of animals. i wonder what peta's take on RDR is..

 

Same here...Just picked up Tiger Woods golf and have been farting around with that. I have played RDR a few times, though,and it's pretty dang cool

[GoodBye]

i've been meaning to get into RDR but the sports games have been in heavy rotation. from the bit i played when it first came out i remember slaughtering all sorts of animals. i wonder what peta's take on RDR is..

You know, I rarely play video games but for some reason I got hooked on this one. But John Marston is a fine looking cowboy.

[Guest three3]

Same here...Just picked up Tiger Woods golf and have been farting around with that. I have played RDR a few times, though,and it's pretty dang cool

 

it is cool but like all third person shooters, somewhat tedious, linear and cinematic in nature. the cinematics in the early part of the game bored me but once i invest the time i'm sure it will be worth it

Edited January 6, 2011 by three3