....lybob Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 To a greater degree than previously known, diplomats are a big part of the sales force, according to hundreds of cables released by WikiLeaks, which describe politicking and cajoling at the highest levels. link I'm not saying if this is a good or bad thing but remember it the next time someone blathers on about free markets or government interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 link I'm not saying if this is a good or bad thing but remember it the next time someone blathers on about free markets or government interference. And what U.S. favorers where granted from this"government interference"? A note from Bush? Lame article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 And what U.S. favorers where granted from this"government interference"? A note from Bush? Lame article. “I am instructing you,” he told Mr. Hernandez politely, according to the State Department cable, “to speak to the president and all concerned authorities,” as the king “wanted to have all the technology that his friend, President Bush, had on Air Force One.” Once he had his own high-tech plane, with the world’s most advanced telecommunications and defense equipment — the king told Mr. Hernandez that “ ‘God willing,’ he will make a decision that will ‘please you very much.’ ” A State Department spokesman confirmed last week that the United States had authorized an “upgrade” to King Abdullah’s plane, adding “for security reasons, we won’t discuss specifics.” The American ambassador at the time, Adam Ereli, and his chief economic officer, went into action, “lobbying Gulf Air management, board members, government officials and representatives of parliament,” and appealing directly to the crown prince of Bahrain, in an effort to line up a deal for Boeing that could be final in time for a coming visit by President Bush, the first visit by a sitting United States president. Within two weeks, the embassy alerted Boeing officials that the crown prince and king of Bahrain had rejected Airbus’s offer and directed Gulf Air’s chairman to make a deal with Boeing that could be signed while Mr. Bush was in the country. a little more than a note Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) You keep trying to "uncover" and "expose" something. But in the end...all you uncover and expose...is your idiocy. Edited January 4, 2011 by RkFast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 link I'm not saying if this is a good or bad thing but remember it the next time someone blathers on about free markets or government interference. 1) This is news to you? Have you been living in a cave the past 15 years? 2) It's an improvement over Clinton's "Corporate sales forces part of the Diplomatic Corps" policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 a little more than a note Has your beloved Wikileaks ever considered that Boeing simply presented a better offer then Airbus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Has your beloved Wikileaks ever considered that Boeing simply presented a better offer then Airbus? Whatever you may think about Wikileaks, it doesn't seem that they're putting out false information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Whatever you may think about Wikileaks, it doesn't seem that they're putting out false information. I never said it was false. But putting out one ten thousands of what really went on is as good as a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 I never said it was false. But putting out one ten thousands of what really went on is as good as a lie. so you want them to release 10000X more information- good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I love the irony of someone who wants big-government European-style socialism in the US whining about big-government European-style socialism in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) so you want them to release 10000X more information- good to know. Man you are way behind the power curve. It's not that they should "release" anything. They just spread what gossip they find and get their jollys off from being considered "rebels" They don't know Ka-Ka, thank God. Edited January 4, 2011 by Jim in Anchorage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I never said it was false. But putting out one ten thousands of what really went on is as good as a lie. That makes no sense, even granting you the "one ten thousandth" part. How is a larger quantity of truthful information as good as a lie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 I love the irony of someone who wants big-government European-style socialism in the US whining about big-government European-style socialism in the US. Someone starts to blather on about free markets- remember that's a fantasy that doesn't exist and never has. Someone goes on about how the rich pay all the taxes and receives nothing in return- remember that much of what American diplomatic corp and military does is to support corporate interests. Remember that your tax dollars and the devaluation of your dollars are bailing out insolvent banks and corporations, Remember that your tax dollars are used to subsidize the outsourcing of jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Someone starts to blather on about free markets- remember that's a fantasy that doesn't exist and never has. Someone goes on about how the rich pay all the taxes and receives nothing in return- remember that much of what American diplomatic corp and military does is to support corporate interests. Remember that your tax dollars and the devaluation of your dollars are bailing out insolvent banks and corporations, Remember that your tax dollars are used to subsidize the outsourcing of jobs. You're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 That makes no sense, even granting you the "one ten thousandth" part. How is a larger quantity of truthful information as good as a lie? Because if you break into my house I can shoot you. But wait I invited you in and still shot you? Ah a little detail. But I got half the story-thats what's important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 Because if you break into my house I can shoot you. But wait I invited you in and still shot you? Ah a little detail. But I got half the story-thats what's important. Jim you want to shoot him, bury him somewhere and keep it all hush hush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Jim you want to shoot him, bury him somewhere and keep it all hush hush Do you ever stop babbling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) Do you ever stop babbling? apparently not- and something just for you hunter disappointed in Palin Edited January 4, 2011 by ....lybob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Do you ever stop babbling? He's like some weird hybrid - the unfocused verbal diarrhea of EII, the single-minded tenacious obnoxiousness of Tennyboy, and the blithering idiocy of molson_golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Didn't open the link. When all else fails fall back on Palin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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