Kevin Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Yeah, two throwaway games is plenty. There are no such things as "throwaway" games to a 4-12 franchise. If any of these players viewed this game as a throw away then they shouldn't be playing in the NFL. At 4-12, you play for pride, you play for respect, you play for a spot on the roster. Today was Brohms day to prove that he belonged on this team, and he didn't do it. The players didn't rally behind him, and it didn't look like he did much to try to rally them.
Jerry Jabber Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 I for one have seen enough of Brohm now to know why Green Bay give up on him. Watching him today brought back terible memories of #5. Whether you like Fitzpatrick or now, you gotta now know there was a good reason he was playing and Brohm was sitting. I knew we were in trouble today when I saw Brohm starting. Going into the game, he had 0 TD's in the NFL (including preseason). Today he threw a TD, but it was to the Jets.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 First of all, I don't recall many "Brohm boys" unless that's your name for posters who look to see some evidence in actual play, before writing a guy off. If I recall correctly, your main evidence was that he was drafted in the second round and then cut (before being picked back up and put on the PS). That simply isn't evidence of any sort. As for his performances in preseason games, there were a few and he had good, and bad, efforts. With that said, I am far from writing off Brohm based on his performance in this one game. Say more, please. What would you need to see before you write him off? Being #3 to 2 very good QB in GB and put on the PS there didn't bother me. Last season against Falcons - hey, he only had a month to learn the system, the Bills O wasn't very dynamic and had IMO been poorly coached most of the season. I made allowances. This year, he had the same amount of time as Fitz to learn the playbook. He had all week to prepare. This game bothered me. He ain't ready to be a starter. And if he needs more playing time to be ready to come in and play, how can he be a backup? If he can't be a backup, and he ain't ready to be a starter, just where does he fit in the NFL?
Mr_Blizzard Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) I for one have seen enough of Brohm now to know why Green Bay give up on him. Watching him today brought back terible memories of #5. Whether you like Fitzpatrick or now, you gotta now know there was a good reason he was playing and Brohm was sitting. Just a reminder - Jimbo's first NFL game stats (which was vs the Jets): 20 completions on 33 attempts, 292 yds, 3 TD's, no INT's. Edited January 3, 2011 by Mr_Blizzard
3rdand12 Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) I will freely admit i that wanted to see some backups today. I definitly wanted to see Brohm. I do not know if it was fair with his starting rg/rt and practice squad receivers. But when he could not adjust to a three second drop and throw i was concerned he was hit in the head by a Jet early on. He did not step up or adjust his play. What he did do was show that Fitz has been performing miracles and our o line just is p poor Edited January 3, 2011 by 3rdand12
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 His shoelaces never once came untied. His hands stayed nicely on his arms. His tourette's syndrome was barely noticeable. He nearly always knew which side of the field the Bills bench was on. As often and as hard as Brohm was drilled today, that last is an accomplishment Just a reminder - Jimbo's first NFL game stats (which was vs the Jets): 20 completions on 33 attempts, 292 yds, 3 TD's, no INT's. Can you help me understand your point?
Kurt Warner Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Yes! I wish we would have seen more of Brown. Might as well go with Brown instead. This means we draft a QB as we'd be sunk if Fitz gets hurt next year or can't follow up his progress.
FistingBot Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 I think we've now seen why Brohm (2nd round pick in 2008) couldn't beat out Matt Flynn (7th round pick in 2008) in Green Bay.
DCBongo Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Brohm's performance shows how "good" Fitz is. He made the receivers and Oline look better then they are. As much as I love the Bill, next year would be beyond belief if they were in the running for the wild card. Given the distance this team still needs to go, I would be quite happy with another year of Fitz while they try and make a Defense that doesn't stuck the big one against the run.
Spillerwich Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 He also had a shot last year in the Atlanta game. This was his second shot as a starter. Not impressed at all. Good college QB. Not a good pro Qb(so far). We didn't do a great job of protection but, he did nothing to get the ball out early and often to our WR's. Fitz is our guy!! Get over it. Lets go out and get us a MLB that scares every QB in the league. We need to find us a Ray Lewis jr.
The Dean Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Say more, please. What would you need to see before you write him off? More. Anyone writing a guy off after one start (his 2nd start in the NFL and 1st in over a year) has to be crazy. Obviously he didn't deliver on any level today. But you simply don't write a guy off after a bad performance. I'm not suggesting the Bills have to keep him to see if he can do better, but if they do you will know why.
Spiderweb Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 First of all, I don't recall many "Brohm boys" unless that's your name for posters who look to see some evidence in actual play, before writing a guy off. If I recall correctly, your main evidence was that he was drafted in the second round and then cut (before being picked back up and put on the PS). That simply isn't evidence of any sort. As for his performances in preseason games, there were a few and he had good, and bad, efforts. With that said, I am far from writing off Brohm based on his performance in this one game. It's a shame that a voice of reason, thought, and intelligence will soon be drowned by the less endowed masses. Thanks for trying.
John from Riverside Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Brown didnt even get any snaps and I thought he showed more
BillsFanInLV Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 I for one have seen enough of Brohm now to know why Green Bay give up on him. Watching him today brought back terible memories of #5. Whether you like Fitzpatrick or now, you gotta now know there was a good reason he was playing and Brohm was sitting. I couldn't help but think of how good Flynn looked against New England recently. I was hoping the difference between Flynn and Brohm was negligible and Brohm would have been produced 'something' on the field. I was wrong. I too have seen enough.
1B4IDie Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) There is no logical argument to keep Brohm on the roster. He cannot be trusted to enter a game. You can sign a much better Backup QB. It absolutely makes no sense to argue this guy deserves a roster spot. He has done nothing in his career in the NFL and has done nothing when given a chance to play. You need to trust that the #2 QB can atleast dump off. He looked like the worst play of JP Lossman and Trent Edwards combined. Its amazing anyone could try to argue he is worth a roster spot. Tyler Thigpen will be a FA, it makes an infinite more amount of sense to sign Thigpen as the #2 or #3 depending on whether or not a QB is drafted than to waste a roster spot with that aBrohmination. Edited January 3, 2011 by Why So Serious?
Spiderweb Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) Brown didnt even get any snaps and I thought he showed more Brown threw the last pick, finishing 2 of 3 with a pick. Brohm was bad, but so was the O-line. One thing for sure though, and I'm not a big Fitz supporter, is that I believe Fitz would have made much better line calls to get the blocks needed more often than Brohm. In fact, I'd bet that Wood made the calls more than did Brohm. I don't believe Brohm was any where near ready for the speed (as Gailey said in the post game). No apologies, no excuses, Brohm stunk today, but how well did Fitz do last week? I must have missed something, as I thought he had 5 turnovers all by himself. Edited January 3, 2011 by Spiderweb
AxelRipper Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 I'm gonna admit that I thought brohm would be decent when we picked him up. He didnt look bad IMO last year considering he had a month to learn the playbook and meet everyone, plus it was better than the abomination that was Edwards. However, this game was horrid. Its not like our line did much at all to protect him, but even Brown looked better today in his one drive (minus the overthrow that was miscommunication/lack of practice). Yes, Brohm needs to be cut. Put Brown as the backup and pick someone else in FA (UDFA, Thigpen, whatever) for next year.
The Dean Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 It's a shame that a voice of reason, thought, and intelligence will soon be drowned by the less endowed masses. Thanks for trying. It's never fun trying to reason with a lynch mob. But somebody has to do it. Brown threw the last pick, finishing 2 of 3 with a pick. Brohm was bad, but so was the O-line. One thing for sure though, and I'm not a big Fitz supporter, is that I believe Fitz would have made much better line calls to get the blocks needed more often than Brohm. In fact, I'd bet that Wood made the calls more than did Brohm. I don't believe Brohm was any where near ready for the speed (as Gailey said in the post game). No apologies, no excuses, Brohm stunk today, but how well did Fitz do last week? I must have missed something, as I thought he had 5 turnovers all by himself. Yes, Brohm was not good today. (That's an understatement.) There were many factors that contributed to his poor play. But like you say, "no excuses". It doesn't hurt however, to take a look a the various reasons/factors/influences before writing the guy off.
1B4IDie Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 It's never fun trying to reason with a lynch mob. But somebody has to do it. Yes, Brohm was not good today. (That's an understatement.) There were many factors that contributed to his poor play. But like you say, "no excuses". It doesn't hurt however, to take a look a the various reasons/factors/influences before writing the guy off. You look at pros and cons. What are the pros in keeping a backup QB that has no ability to deal with speed of the NFL? You can make various excuses if you want. There are dozens of guys that can hold a clip board that have more experience and potential than Brohm.
Spiderweb Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 It's never fun trying to reason with a lynch mob. But somebody has to do it. Yes, Brohm was not good today. (That's an understatement.) There were many factors that contributed to his poor play. But like you say, "no excuses". It doesn't hurt however, to take a look a the various reasons/factors/influences before writing the guy off. As I mentioned before, a voice of reason....... (agree as well). Brohm stunk today, but as for writing him off on this performance alone? No, that would be simply a knee jerk reaction.
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