DrDawkinstein Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 My personal choices in order: 1. Fairley - obvious 2. Dareus - obvious 3. Newton - assuming both Fairley and Dareus are off the board to Carolina and Denver, then I think the FO will have to change gears on the fly and grab our QB of the future. Im not sold on Bowers or Quinn. At this draft spot we should not have to take the THIRD best player at a position, you need TOP talent at #3. I see Buddy getting the perfect QB for Gailey's offense. I also wouldnt be surprised if we go Carimi at #3 if those 2 DLs are off the board (or whoever the top OT ends up being after the combine).
beast34 Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Assuming Fairley will be gone at 3 i would take Dareus. I'm not opposed to trading down a few spots if a QB desperate team trades up to our spot we still could end up with Dareus,i also like Quinn and Heyward but not at 3. I don't like Newton, 1 great college season is just to big of a gamble, he has bust written all over him.
papazoid Posted February 9, 2011 Author Posted February 9, 2011 Papa's Big Board.....updated 2/9/11 #1- Fairley #2- Dareus #3- Peterson #4- Quinn #5- Green #6- Bowers #7- Miller
T master Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 If Luck comes out the Bills should break the bank and try to get him. It's been since '96 since this team had a franchise QB. Long overdue!! I know there are plenty of needs but I say a QB should be numero UNO! You live under a rock ?? Luck is staying in school he ain't coming out this year hang it up were going in a different direction !!! It's called defense !!
bbb Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 You live under a rock ?? Luck is staying in school he ain't coming out this year hang it up were going in a different direction !!! It's called defense !! Uh, you do realize you are quoting somebody from January 2nd?
papazoid Posted February 26, 2011 Author Posted February 26, 2011 Papa's Big Board.....updated 2/26/11 #1- Fairley #2- Dareus #3- Quinn #4- Green #5- Peterson #6- Bowers #7- Miller
WNY Tony Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Papa's Big Board.....updated 2/26/11 #1- Fairley #2- Dareus #3- Quinn #4- Green #5- Peterson #6- Bowers #7- Miller I would tend to agree with this list, wouldn't mind seeing Watt on there as well. I would love to see a draft strategy that our war room has a list of 5-6 players that they would be happy selecting at #3. Then trade down when the majority of your list is still there, which it will because only two picks before us. I like the trade down to 5 or 7, and then re-evaluate. Are 3 or more of those players still available at #5? Then see if someone from the 8 or 9 spot is itching to come down, etc. I think with this being such a deep draft (at least in DE, LB), the true value of a #3 pick is how many picks in the first 2-3 rounds can it generate. If we walked away from the draft with 3 defensive players (DE, LB) and a RT or TE that all are capable of starting in year 1, I would be happy.
bisonbrigade Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Trade down and pick up an additional 2nd round pick with San Francisco or a team above. then draft 1. DE Cameron Jordan. California. 2a. ILB Akeem Ayers. UCLA 2b. OLB Justin Houston. Georgia 3. QB Christian Ponder. Florida St. 4a. OT Marcus Gilbert. Florida 4b. SS Dom DeCicco. Pittsburgh 5. TE Juilus Thomas. Portland St. 6. RB Craig Cooper. Miami 7. DE David Carter. UCLA
Aloha22 Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Round 1: DE Da'Quan Bowers/Robert Quinn Round 2: This pick is the toughest...best QB available the Bills want? If Locker/Mallet/Ponder/Kaepernick if the Bills want to draft a QB. Round 3: OT Marcus Cannon/Jason Pinkston Round 4a: ILB Colin McCarthy Round 4b: SS Jeron Johnson Round 5: DE Markus White Round 6: CB Justin Rogers Round 7: DT Anthony Gray UDFA: K Josh Jasper (~84% accuary throughout college - will be good to be the eventual kicker in buffalo), WR Tori Gurley (not sure why he left school as a redshirt sophomore, but with his size maybe he can translate to a tight end), ILB Alex Wujciak (underrated maryland linebacker, might go as high as round 6), OLB Kenny Rowe (small frame, 1-down pass rusher translates to limited ability in the nfl - projects well to special teams, hard hitter), OG Ricky Henry (solid interior lineman), OL Adam Grant (swing tackle, possible move to interior lineman - versatile)
PaattMaann Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Round 1: DE Da'Quan Bowers/Robert Quinn Round 2: This pick is the toughest...best QB available the Bills want? If Locker/Mallet/Ponder/Kaepernick if the Bills want to draft a QB. Round 3: OT Marcus Cannon/Jason Pinkston Round 4a: ILB Colin McCarthy Round 4b: SS Jeron Johnson Round 5: DE Markus White Round 6: CB Justin Rogers Round 7: DT Anthony Gray UDFA: K Josh Jasper (~84% accuary throughout college - will be good to be the eventual kicker in buffalo), WR Tori Gurley (not sure why he left school as a redshirt sophomore, but with his size maybe he can translate to a tight end), ILB Alex Wujciak (underrated maryland linebacker, might go as high as round 6), OLB Kenny Rowe (small frame, 1-down pass rusher translates to limited ability in the nfl - projects well to special teams, hard hitter), OG Ricky Henry (solid interior lineman), OL Adam Grant (swing tackle, possible move to interior lineman - versatile) not to nitpick, b/c everyone does, but Cannon lasting until round 3????? id wet my pantsss Gurley left college because hes stupid and cant hack classes
Bangarang Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Cannon and Pinkston won't sniff the 3rd round.
Rob's House Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Unless you're really enamored with one of the QBs who falls to 34 I say take the best OT there and hope for a good QB in the 3rd. If we could get a solid pro OT to lock down his position for the next 10 yrs it will make every other offensive position better for it.
Thoner7 Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) I really just hope we add James Carpenter. 2nd, 3rd, 4th round, whenever. I have watched him all year and he is routinely one of the best tackles, whether its game action, at the Sr Bowl, or at the Combine, he is at the top. I dont know why other people dont like him but he is gonna be a great Olineman. Edited February 27, 2011 by Thoner7
Aloha22 Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) I really just hope we add James Carpenter. 2nd, 3rd, 4th round, whenever. I have watched him all year and he is routinely one of the best tackles, whether its game action, at the Sr Bowl, or at the Combine, he is at the top. I dont know why other people dont like him but he is gonna be a great Olineman. I would take Carpenter in the 3rd as well. Or others if they fall. Gotta remember our third round pick is pick top 65ish He was really good at the senior bowl from what I saw Edited February 27, 2011 by Aloha22
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 I really just hope we add James Carpenter. 2nd, 3rd, 4th round, whenever. I have watched him all year and he is routinely one of the best tackles, whether its game action, at the Sr Bowl, or at the Combine, he is at the top. I dont know why other people dont like him but he is gonna be a great Olineman. IMO...Carpenter would be a nice addition if he lasted until the 4th round. To my knowledge, the "knock" on Carpenter is that while he excels in pass blocking, he leaves much to be desired in the run blocking game. Based on his skill set and measurables, he looks to be a prototypical LT in the NFL. Might be good for depth in the event that Bell gets injured, but isn't that what Wang is for?
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 As I posted numerous weeks ago, I don't see the fascination with Bowers. In fact, I recently saw video of Iowa's Adrian Clayborn and he and Bowers look like the exact same player to me…both really solid players, good relentlessness and all-around game, but a bit lacking in explosion. Some see Bowers as a safe pick because he has a high floor. But if he also has a low ceiling (which IMO he does have), then the selection of a player like Bowers could be viewed as a possible bust pick…because he's the sort of player who might have a solid career and maybe make the Pro Bowl as an alternate during one or two years in his prime…but that's it. Whoever the Bills select at #3, IMO has to have a very high ceiling. I would much rather go Quinn (because he could end up being the best player in the draft) than someone like Bowers who (along with Adrian Clayborn) remind me of another solid player, Tyson Jackson, who went 3rd overall to the Chiefs in 2009. Tyson Jackson will be a good player but not a great player. I don't see him or Bowers or Clayborn being for instance, the next Richard Seymour, and that is minimally what I'd want from that player. If the Bills retain their present draft position, I'm still wanting Dareus/Quinn or Quinn/Dareus.
Aloha22 Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 As I posted numerous weeks ago, I don't see the fascination with Bowers. In fact, I recently saw video of Iowa's Adrian Clayborn and he and Bowers look like the exact same player to me…both really solid players, good relentlessness and all-around game, but a bit lacking in explosion. Some see Bowers as a safe pick because he has a high floor. But if he also has a low ceiling (which IMO he does have), then the selection of a player like Bowers could be viewed as a possible bust pick…because he's the sort of player who might have a solid career and maybe make the Pro Bowl as an alternate during one or two years in his prime…but that's it. Whoever the Bills select at #3, IMO has to have a very high ceiling. I would much rather go Quinn (because he could end up being the best player in the draft) than someone like Bowers who (along with Adrian Clayborn) remind me of another solid player, Tyson Jackson, who went 3rd overall to the Chiefs in 2009. Tyson Jackson will be a good player but not a great player. I don't see him or Bowers or Clayborn being for instance, the next Richard Seymour, and that is minimally what I'd want from that player. If the Bills retain their present draft position, I'm still wanting Dareus/Quinn or Quinn/Dareus. Well I've been fortunate to see Bowers play first hand 3 times Clemson vs. Maryland 2010 Clemson vs. N.C. State 2010 Clemson vs. South Carolina 2008 And I think he's the real deal
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Well I've been fortunate to see Bowers play first hand 3 times Clemson vs. Maryland 2010 Clemson vs. N.C. State 2010 Clemson vs. South Carolina 2008 And I think he's the real deal Well I certainly can't say that my opinion is better than yours. It'll be fun to see how this all shakes out.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 As I posted numerous weeks ago, I don't see the fascination with Bowers. In fact, I recently saw video of Iowa's Adrian Clayborn and he and Bowers look like the exact same player to me…both really solid players, good relentlessness and all-around game, but a bit lacking in explosion. Some see Bowers as a safe pick because he has a high floor. But if he also has a low ceiling (which IMO he does have), then the selection of a player like Bowers could be viewed as a possible bust pick…because he's the sort of player who might have a solid career and maybe make the Pro Bowl as an alternate during one or two years in his prime…but that's it. Whoever the Bills select at #3, IMO has to have a very high ceiling. I would much rather go Quinn (because he could end up being the best player in the draft) than someone like Bowers who (along with Adrian Clayborn) remind me of another solid player, Tyson Jackson, who went 3rd overall to the Chiefs in 2009. Tyson Jackson will be a good player but not a great player. I don't see him or Bowers or Clayborn being for instance, the next Richard Seymour, and that is minimally what I'd want from that player. If the Bills retain their present draft position, I'm still wanting Dareus/Quinn or Quinn/Dareus. +1 Quinn is a special player. He can put his hand in the dirt and play 4-3 DE, and I'm pretty confident that he would excel at OLB in the 3-4. I want Quinn or Dareus at #3.
bills1960 Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Unless Carolina doesn't take Fairley, I can't see Bowers falling to us. Denver resigned Bailey to an extension so a CB seems to be a no at this point. They also have the worst pass rush in the league so Bowers would be their fit. I want Dareus if we stay at 3 and dont trade down. Quinn would be a good pick if we do.
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