nuklz2594 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 tcu has had excellent defense for years now. they run a 4-2-5 defense. could that work in nfl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreReed83 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 4 linemen, 2 LBs with 5 in the secondary??? That would work WONDERS for our worst rush defense in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agardin Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) I hope you are right, I just put 20.00 on the under at 56.5 points. I don't really know too much about these teams so just a little bet to make it more interesting Shows how much I know. A 4-2-5 defense against the very good run game that the Badgers have doesn't sound like I made a great bet. Although a good running game might eat the clock thus keeping the under in play. See, that is how you rationalize. Edited January 1, 2011 by agardin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 The 425 defense consists of 4 down lineman, 2 linebackers, 2 corners and 3 safeties. One of these safeties is called the "Bandit" and is used more like a linebacker to blitz and attack the ball carrier. The idea behind this defense and its cousin 335 (used by WVU) is to put more speed on the field to counter the spread option offense. A power running game is very dangerous against this type of defense because it typically lacks the size and strength to shut it down between the tackles. These defenses are becoming more popular in college due to the success and rampant use of the spread option. However, at the NFL level where players are bigger and stronger the lack of size on the field would put the defense at a distinct disadvantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Watch Wayne Daniels for TCU as a possible Bills pick in the 3rd or 4th round, team captain and makes some big plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 It will be interesting to see how the "small, fast" TCU D holds up against the big, nasty wrecking crew that is Wisconsin's line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I'm sure if it were at all feasible in the NFL, Dick Jauron would have run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Watch Wayne Daniels for TCU as a possible Bills pick in the 3rd or 4th round, team captain and makes some big plays. Thanks! Who else are we looking for in this game? Anyone know? Astro? Watch Wayne Daniels for TCU as a possible Bills pick in the 3rd or 4th round, team captain and makes some big plays. TCU Defensive End…#96. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Thanks! Who else are we looking for in this game? Anyone know? Astro? Per Astro in the Shout Box: My TCU-Wisc Draft: would be Carimi OT, Kirkpatrick OC, Tank Carder ILB, Wayne Daniels OLB, and Kerley speedy WR At this point, They will be there in that round 1-2-3-4-5 And it's contrived b/c I'd go D in RD2 if I took Carimi, but there isn't one in the upcoming game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Per Astro in the Shout Box: My TCU-Wisc Draft: would be Carimi OT, Kirkpatrick OC, Tank Carder ILB, Wayne Daniels OLB, and Kerley speedy WR At this point, They will be there in that round 1-2-3-4-5 And it's contrived b/c I'd go D in RD2 if I took Carimi, but there isn't one in the upcoming game Thanks again, Doc! Yeah, there's been tons of talk about Carimi in the last few weeks and as an OT he'll be easy to keep an eye on. Looking forward to seeing him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) Thanks! Who else are we looking for in this game? Anyone know? Astro? TCU Dkpatrickefensive End…#96. TCU RD1: Marcus Cannon OG/RT #61 RD2: Jake Kirkpatrick OC #76 RD3: Tank Carder ILB #43 Junior RD3: Andy Dalton QB #14 RD4 Wayne Daniels OLB34 #96 RD5 Jeremy Kerley speedy WR #85 RD5 Colin Jones SS #28 Wisconsin RD1: Gabe Carimi LT Wisconsin #68 RD1: JJ Watt DE34 #99 Edited January 1, 2011 by Astrobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I like how TCU incorporated the Rose into their helmet logo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Thanks Astro! You the bot! Carimi, LOT, #68… Also Nick Toon, Wisconsin WR…must be related to Al Toon? Al went to Wisconsin too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Is that Al Toon's kid playing WR for Wisconsin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Is that Al Toon's kid playing WR for Wisconsin? yes. He's not in our top 250 but we wouldn't be drafting a WR there anyway. Jimmy Young for TCU isn't doing too badly either. HE's a SR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Updated: TCU RD1: Marcus Cannon OG/RT #61 RD2: Jake Kirkpatrick OC #76 RD3: Tank Carder ILB #43 Junior RD3: Andy Dalton QB #14 RD4 Wayne Daniels OLB34 #96 RD5 Jeremy Kerley speedy WR #85 RD5 Colin Jones SS #28 Wisconsin RD1: Gabe Carimi LT Wisconsin #68 RD1: JJ Watt DE34 #99 RD4: Nick Toon WR #1 Junior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 we have used a 4-2 nickle more than any other defense this year, most 4 man front teams do. With the multi receiver formations every team is using these days people spend more time in the nickle than their base D. The NFL is a changing Updated: TCU RD1: Marcus Cannon OG/RT #61 RD2: Jake Kirkpatrick OC #76 RD3: Tank Carder ILB #43 Junior RD3: Andy Dalton QB #14 RD4 Wayne Daniels OLB34 #96 RD5 Jeremy Kerley speedy WR #85 RD5 Colin Jones SS #28 Wisconsin RD1: Gabe Carimi LT Wisconsin #68 RD1: JJ Watt DE34 #99 RD4: Nick Toon WR #1 Junior Any chance Carimi or Cannon fall to our second rounder. We could use some big mean dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 425 and the Nickel are different defenses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 It will be interesting to see how the "small, fast" TCU D holds up against the big, nasty wrecking crew that is Wisconsin's line. Pretty well, apparently. Congratulations to the National Champion TCU Horned Frogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Is that Al Toon's kid playing WR for Wisconsin? Yep!! Pretty well, apparently. Congratulations to the National Champion TCU Horned Frogs. Thank you for recognizing the GOOD team of my area!!! IF only the National Championship game could end in a tie!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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