DC Grid Posted December 24, 2010 Posted December 24, 2010 Is.....Donte Stallworth. For the courage to rise above "haters" and just do his thing Donte is truly deserving. A lot of players would have had a difficult time coping with murdering someone while drunk and driving around south beach...heck non NFL players would still be in jail....but not Donte. He came back big time and showed tremendous "courage" on the pup list for 10 weeks then amazing 2 catches for 82 yards. He joins the illustrious Mike Vick who won last year's Ed Block award in Philly. So from what I gather from who receives this award, Ed Block must have been a real A-hole.
The Dean Posted December 24, 2010 Posted December 24, 2010 Feel better now? First of all, Stallworth is the Raven's Ed Block winner. Every team has one and they are selected by the team's players. It has nothing to do with on-field performance. James Hardy was the 2009 Buffalo Bills recipient. Stallworth has handled this situation as well as anyone could ask for. Painting him as some random drunk who mowed down an innocent pedestrian is to ignore the facts of the case (at least from what I have read on this case). And contrary to your assessment I think most of us would have fared better with the legal system than Donte. Without a major public image issue, a good attorney would have likely had you plead Not Guilty. I think the chances are good the charges would have been reduced or thrown out entirely. If it had gone to trial, an acquittal is always a possibility. In Donte's case, he pleaded Guilty, completely cooperated with the prosecution and was immediately remorseful and respectful of the victim's family. That also worked to help reduce his sentence (the way it works for most cooperative defendants). Maybe all the NFL teams should send you the list of their proposed Ed Block awardee and you can let them know if it meets your satisfaction...maybe make a few changes. But, irrespective of your disdain for a some of the teams' choices for this award, you have no reason to bash the man for whom the award was named.
Mr. WEO Posted December 24, 2010 Posted December 24, 2010 Feel better now? First of all, Stallworth is the Raven's Ed Block winner. Every team has one and they are selected by the team's players. It has nothing to do with on-field performance. James Hardy was the 2009 Buffalo Bills recipient. Stallworth has handled this situation as well as anyone could ask for. Painting him as some random drunk who mowed down an innocent pedestrian is to ignore the facts of the case (at least from what I have read on this case). And contrary to your assessment I think most of us would have fared better with the legal system than Donte. Without a major public image issue, a good attorney would have likely had you plead Not Guilty. I think the chances are good the charges would have been reduced or thrown out entirely. If it had gone to trial, an acquittal is always a possibility. In Donte's case, he pleaded Guilty, completely cooperated with the prosecution and was immediately remorseful and respectful of the victim's family. That also worked to help reduce his sentence (the way it works for most cooperative defendants). Maybe all the NFL teams should send you the list of their proposed Ed Block awardee and you can let them know if it meets your satisfaction...maybe make a few changes. But, irrespective of your disdain for a some of the teams' choices for this award, you have no reason to bash the man for whom the award was named. Great post.
Beerball Posted December 24, 2010 Posted December 24, 2010 Is.....Donte Stallworth. For the courage to rise above "haters" and just do his thing Donte is truly deserving. A lot of players would have had a difficult time coping with murdering someone while drunk and driving around south beach...heck non NFL players would still be in jail....but not Donte. He came back big time and showed tremendous "courage" on the pup list for 10 weeks then amazing 2 catches for 82 yards. He joins the illustrious Mike Vick who won last year's Ed Block award in Philly. So from what I gather from who receives this award, Ed Block must have been a real A-hole. Yes, a real A-hole. Take your ignorance elsewhere. While Ed will be remembered as one of the most educated athletic trainers of his day, some of his most significant contributions came in the tirelessly manner in which he gave of himself to help improve the lives of children. He stood for courage and championed the cause of those who displayed that characteristic. His work and philosophy continues today through the Foundation that bears his name. A great and compassionate humanitarian, he was always proud to be known simply as "Ed Block of the Baltimore Colts."
Kkspike Posted December 24, 2010 Posted December 24, 2010 He bought his way out of jail. He gave the victims family around 2 1/2 million dollars.
DrDawkinstein Posted December 24, 2010 Posted December 24, 2010 (edited) He bought his way out of jail. He gave the victims family around 2 1/2 million dollars. Not only would he have won a civil suit, he also probably could have won a counter suit. Instead, he did the classy thing and made sure the family was well taken care of. Not much else to say that Dean hasnt already. Anyone harping on Stallworth doesnt know much. Edited December 24, 2010 by DrDankenstein
dhg Posted December 24, 2010 Posted December 24, 2010 Feel better now? First of all, Stallworth is the Raven's Ed Block winner. Every team has one and they are selected by the team's players. It has nothing to do with on-field performance. James Hardy was the 2009 Buffalo Bills recipient. Stallworth has handled this situation as well as anyone could ask for. Painting him as some random drunk who mowed down an innocent pedestrian is to ignore the facts of the case (at least from what I have read on this case). And contrary to your assessment I think most of us would have fared better with the legal system than Donte. Without a major public image issue, a good attorney would have likely had you plead Not Guilty. I think the chances are good the charges would have been reduced or thrown out entirely. If it had gone to trial, an acquittal is always a possibility. In Donte's case, he pleaded Guilty, completely cooperated with the prosecution and was immediately remorseful and respectful of the victim's family. That also worked to help reduce his sentence (the way it works for most cooperative defendants). Maybe all the NFL teams should send you the list of their proposed Ed Block awardee and you can let them know if it meets your satisfaction...maybe make a few changes. But, irrespective of your disdain for a some of the teams' choices for this award, you have no reason to bash the man for whom the award was named. Great post Dean. http://www.edblock.org/
Mr. WEO Posted December 24, 2010 Posted December 24, 2010 He bought his way out of jail. He gave the victims family around 2 1/2 million dollars. This epitomizes the ignorance surrounding this case. Lazy or dumb--which?
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 (edited) By the way, it should be pointed out that the Ed Block Courage Award is determined by a vote of the players only. Each team votes one of its players as the team's recipient. 1984 – Steve Freeman 1985 – Jerry Butler 1986 – Lucius Sanford 1987 – Robb Riddick 1988 – Tim Vogler 1989 – Steve Tasker 1990 – Darryl Talley 1991 – Mark Kelso 1992 – Bruce Smith 1993 – John Davis 1994 – Kent Hull 1995 – Jim Kelly 1996 – Mark Maddox 1997 – Henry Jones 1998 – John Holecek 1999 – Sean Moran 2000 – Joe Panos 2001 – Jerry Ostroski 2002 – Tony Driver 2003 – Pat Williams 2004 – Travis Henry 2005 – Mark Campbell 2006 – Takeo Spikes 2007 – Kevin Everett 2008 --Chris Kelsay 2009 --James Hardy 2010--Jairus Byrd Edited December 25, 2010 by San Jose Bills Fan
DC Grid Posted December 25, 2010 Author Posted December 25, 2010 Yes, a real A-hole. Take your ignorance elsewhere. I know who Ed is. Mentioned it to highlight how Scum shouldn't get the award as it craps on his name. Feel better now? First of all, Stallworth is the Raven's Ed Block winner. Every team has one and they are selected by the team's players. It has nothing to do with on-field performance. James Hardy was the 2009 Buffalo Bills recipient. Stallworth has handled this situation as well as anyone could ask for. Painting him as some random drunk who mowed down an innocent pedestrian is to ignore the facts of the case (at least from what I have read on this case). And contrary to your assessment I think most of us would have fared better with the legal system than Donte. Without a major public image issue, a good attorney would have likely had you plead Not Guilty. I think the chances are good the charges would have been reduced or thrown out entirely. If it had gone to trial, an acquittal is always a possibility. In Donte's case, he pleaded Guilty, completely cooperated with the prosecution and was immediately remorseful and respectful of the victim's family. That also worked to help reduce his sentence (the way it works for most cooperative defendants). Maybe all the NFL teams should send you the list of their proposed Ed Block awardee and you can let them know if it meets your satisfaction...maybe make a few changes. But, irrespective of your disdain for a some of the teams' choices for this award, you have no reason to bash the man for whom the award was named. sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Five-ways-to-look-at-the-Donte-Stallworth-sente?urn=nfl-170659
The Dean Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Five-ways-to-look-at-the-Donte-Stallworth-sente?urn=nfl-170659 Bravo! You linked to an article by a blogger who, like you, omitted and distorted key elements of the incident.
DC Grid Posted December 25, 2010 Author Posted December 25, 2010 Bravo! You linked to an article by a blogger who, like you, omitted and distorted key elements of the incident. Care to provide a more accurate published account?
PistolPeaTear Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 Care to provide a more accurate published account? Since you love yahoo sports so much here ya go... Link Don't crap completely on a man til you do a little research (you can also find many more links with a search engine called google) instead of reading a one-sided terribly written blog
DC Grid Posted December 25, 2010 Author Posted December 25, 2010 Since you love yahoo sports so much here ya go... Link Don't crap completely on a man til you do a little research (you can also find many more links with a search engine called google) instead of reading a one-sided terribly written blog So why if he's such a great guy was he suspended for an entire season? Goddell just hates good guys?
McBeane Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 So why if he's such a great guy was he suspended for an entire season? Goddell just hates good guys? Your ignorance knows no bounds.
BADOLBILZ Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 Feel better now? First of all, Stallworth is the Raven's Ed Block winner. Every team has one and they are selected by the team's players. It has nothing to do with on-field performance. James Hardy was the 2009 Buffalo Bills recipient. Stallworth has handled this situation as well as anyone could ask for. Painting him as some random drunk who mowed down an innocent pedestrian is to ignore the facts of the case (at least from what I have read on this case). And contrary to your assessment I think most of us would have fared better with the legal system than Donte. Without a major public image issue, a good attorney would have likely had you plead Not Guilty. I think the chances are good the charges would have been reduced or thrown out entirely. If it had gone to trial, an acquittal is always a possibility. In Donte's case, he pleaded Guilty, completely cooperated with the prosecution and was immediately remorseful and respectful of the victim's family. That also worked to help reduce his sentence (the way it works for most cooperative defendants). Maybe all the NFL teams should send you the list of their proposed Ed Block awardee and you can let them know if it meets your satisfaction...maybe make a few changes. But, irrespective of your disdain for a some of the teams' choices for this award, you have no reason to bash the man for whom the award was named. I'll say this much, when you kill someone while driving drunk you really shouldn't be honored for your contribution to society any time soon. It's nice that he gave money to the victims family, but on a human level that's the least he could do. For all I know, he knows this, but honoring him? Seriously? I know a lot of football fans take chances driving with alcohol in their system so there is a perverse level of empathy for his situation but there is a big difference between just letting someone live there life after causing the death of another and putting them on a pedestal for their courage or charitable work.
DC Grid Posted December 25, 2010 Author Posted December 25, 2010 Your ignorance knows no bounds. Solid explaination of the suspension.
McBeane Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 Solid explaination of the suspension. I can't add anything that The Dean didn't say.
The Dean Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 I'll say this much, when you kill someone while driving drunk you really shouldn't be honored for your contribution to society any time soon. It's nice that he gave money to the victims family, but on a human level that's the least he could do. For all I know, he knows this, but honoring him? Seriously? I know a lot of football fans take chances driving with alcohol in their system so there is a perverse level of empathy for his situation but there is a big difference between just letting someone live there life after causing the death of another and putting them on a pedestal for their courage or charitable work. I can understand that position. But the award was given by his teammates. They don't seem to share your concerns here. And, IMO Stallworth fits the "murdering drunk" definition the way Tony Washington fits "sex offender". By the strict definition what they did gets them that label. But in context it isn't anywhere near severe as the label would imply. Sometimes circumstance really are important. And, since none of us are without making some big mistakes. One way to judge another person is the way they handle themselves when they make those mistakes and what they do afterward.
Kelly the Dog Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 I'll say this much, when you kill someone while driving drunk you really shouldn't be honored for your contribution to society any time soon. It's nice that he gave money to the victims family, but on a human level that's the least he could do. For all I know, he knows this, but honoring him? Seriously? I know a lot of football fans take chances driving with alcohol in their system so there is a perverse level of empathy for his situation but there is a big difference between just letting someone live there life after causing the death of another and putting them on a pedestal for their courage or charitable work. Exactly. Awards such as these usually seem to be for individuals who go above and beyond what is expected of them. Way above and beyond would ALMOST kind of get Stallworth even, don't ya think? From what I know about the situation, which isn't really much, Stallworth has been trying to do the right thing. Every way he can. Which is commendable, But this is doing the right thing after the fact. The fact is, it still happened. I'm all for giving people a second chance, more so than most, but it seems to me, a lot of giving people a second chance is to allow them to get back to even, not to win awards for citizenship.
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