Clippers of Nfl Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 (edited) 10-1 10 lineman and one safety. whatever it takes to make it happen. jk i would say 4-3 if i had the choice. Edited December 22, 2010 by Clippers of Nfl
steampunk Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 The 3-4. Like a few other posters have already written, the key personnel signings/drafts/internal developments needed are a true NT and multiple LBs. Me, I'd add that coaching changes on the defensive side of the ball are just as important.
4BillsintheBurgh Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 (edited) Please no 4-3. We still don't have a 4-3 end who can rush the passer. We committed 2 draft picks last year to the 3-4 DL and we're moving forward with it. We need at least 2 lb's to get it working okay, and I'm not sold on Moats long term although he may be a short term solution. I wouldn't be suprised if they move him back inside this offseason, especially if he can learn to cover. I think the reason we have a hybrid is because of Kelsay. He is the key because his liability in the passing game forced the coaches to put coverage responsibilities elsewhere. I say keep drafting team captains to take over the leadership role and eventually he'll be seeing less playing time as we add olb talent. His contract is friendly to being cut when we have sufficient talent on the roster. I'm hoping he's cut or traded after next season. I'd love to see us sign Woodley from the Steelers. I don't know how Pit is going to be able to afford him and Timmons (after 2011) along with all the other money they have committed, and I think they like/need Timmons more than Woodley. Pit drafted an olb in 2010 (2nd rnd, J Worilds) so they are prepared if they can't sign Woodley. They have J Harrison on the other olb position signed til 2014. Probably won't happen for the Bills because of the pricetag, but I can still hope. Edited December 22, 2010 by 4BillsintheBurgh
Mr_Blizzard Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 The plan to switch from 4-3 to 3-4 has been a crash and burn from the start as the team has recently switched back to their familiar 4-3. It seems as if its working, too. “To be honest with you, it’s not a shift in philosophy,” Gailey told the Buffalo Bills. ”It’s a shift in necessity. We’re not doing what we feel like we need to against the run game. So, we felt like we need to get some bigger people on the field to help us in that respect. It’s a shift in necessity more than it is a shift in philosophy.” I have no idea what 2011 will bring - I'm assuming a shift back to 3-4 if we have the right pieces in place. Here's a distant idea of what we should expect in 2011 if we go 3-4: RE - M. Stroud, S. Johnson NT - K. Williams, T. Troup LE - A. Carrington, J. McCargo OLB - A. Moats, P. Woods MLB - P. Posluszny MLB - A. Ayodele, FA / DRAFT OLB - C. Kelsay, A. Maybin Round 2 2011 DRAFT: OLB Akeem Ayers IF AVAILABLE this would be a steal. CB - D. Florence, L. McKelvin CB - T. McGee, R. Corner I believe these will the starters at CB (perhaps even McKelvin filling for McGee) - but I think we will take a CB somewhere in rounds 1-4 (2011 Draft). FS - J. Byrd, G. Wilson SS - D. Whitner, B. Scott If Donte is free to go - I feel Wilson and Scott can easily fill in his place. Despite aging, George Wilson is one of favorite players on the team. I don't like the 3-4, especially in this division.
behind a post WMS69 Posted December 23, 2010 Posted December 23, 2010 Please no 4-3. We still don't have a 4-3 end who can rush the passer. We committed 2 draft picks last year to the 3-4 DL and we're moving forward with it. We need at least 2 lb's to get it working okay, and I'm not sold on Moats long term although he may be a short term solution. I wouldn't be suprised if they move him back inside this offseason, especially if he can learn to cover. I think the reason we have a hybrid is because of Kelsay. He is the key because his liability in the passing game forced the coaches to put coverage responsibilities elsewhere. I say keep drafting team captains to take over the leadership role and eventually he'll be seeing less playing time as we add olb talent. His contract is friendly to being cut when we have sufficient talent on the roster. I'm hoping he's cut or traded after next season. I'd love to see us sign Woodley from the Steelers. I don't know how Pit is going to be able to afford him and Timmons (after 2011) along with all the other money they have committed, and I think they like/need Timmons more than Woodley. Pit drafted an olb in 2010 (2nd rnd, J Worilds) so they are prepared if they can't sign Woodley. They have J Harrison on the other olb position signed til 2014. Probably won't happen for the Bills because of the pricetag, but I can still hope. There was a very good post during training camp pointing out that the transition to 3-4 often takes a few years to complete, and that quite often a hybrid is used until all the pieces are in place. This is whats going on right now. Gailey said he likes the 3-4 because a) it's what we face in division games, making it a bonus to practice against, and b) because as an offensive guy, he feels it's harder to prepare for. Expect us to stay hybrid next year again with maybe a bit more 3-4 as the guys become more accustomed and or suited to it.
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