DrDawkinstein Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 I dont think the Bills will have a problem here. Check our history: McGahee: Irish, Black, first round pick McKelvin: Irish, Black, first round pick McGee: Irish, Black, long time starter
Mr. WEO Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Last I checked, atheism wasn't really a viable option in Thomas Aquinas's time. In fact, I suspect that the number of atheists in Europe in the 13th century hovered around zero. I'm Irish and (nominally only) Catholic, and I've never heard one person discuss this as an attribute. Pretty much everyone I've spoken to who likes him focuses on the fact that he's genuinely smart, doesn't take sacks, and reads defenses very well. Does this expose Losman as the Antichrist? Newton is a classy guy, for sure. Every college he's been to has seen the way he comports himself, with class--whether it's "shopping" for a new/used laptop, preparing papers for class or doing the ol' college selection tour with dad. That being said, if he's there, tough to not take him. He's better than any of the 1st round picks we've blown for 10 years. God forbid Fitz goes down next year and we're looking at Brohm or "Levi Brown".
TheBows Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 For many years Bills fans have not only wanted a great quarterback, but they have wanted to LIKE their quarterback. They wanted him to be smart, down to earth, and classy, a family man and preferably Irish-Catholic. Ryan Fitzpatrick, if he becomes “great” will fit this mold. I think it is natural to want your sports heroes to have “character”. Cam Newton is not smart, not down to earth, not classy, not a family man, and certainly not Irish-Catholic. Maybe this is why so many of you fans are against drafting him. Character is nice, but it does not necessarily win football games. Draft Newton if he is available because he is the best chance the Bills have to save the franchise How many college students are "family men"? Kids between 18 and 25 should be inherintly selfish so that they can work on their professional crafts to be able to provide for an eventual family and contribute to the world by providing services associated with their craft. I'd rather have a quarterback thanking his conditioning coach and not thanking his family and worrying about the three children he had to two different mothers when he was fifteen. What the heck does being Irish-Catholic have to do with character or football? Maybe an extablished guilt complex? Check out the history of the Kennedy family, there were a lot of weeds along the way. And who the heck on this board pushed for an Irish-Catholic quarterback? Was Jim Kelly "classy"? Down-to-earth, maybe, but classy? If Cam Newton is stupid, do we want him? I think of all the attributes you listed, this one is actually important. Stupidity can lead to a lot. Just look at Ben Rothlisberger (alright, bad example. He's a good quarterback, but I think you get my point). Where are you going with this? Is this post to support Cam Newton or to suggest that the people on this board are too ignorant to evaluate talent. Atleast you're hopeful that Fitz can be Irish Catholic one day...
Sabre Bill Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Either way, ya gotta Thank God this thread got highjacked from the OP's original, specious, words. The Thread-Highjackers have apparently been thwarted!! Somehow, we're back to CNewton and his studly (though white-elephantish) charisma and edge of law play (and lifestyle)! Please can't we just talk about Lewis, Aquinas and Manson?? That's all so much more reasonable -- and a lot less likely to force us to say nice things about any SEC teams!!!!!
The Dean Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) I want a Jewish QB You think the Giants would be willing to trade Sage Rosencrantz? Edited December 15, 2010 by The Dean
RuntheDamnBall Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Well....I certainly agree with the implied but obviously unintended characterization of Cam Newton as a White Elephant. Maybe you ought to look that one up in the dictionary. But he's in the room! What I get out of this is that Cam Newton is a mixed metaphor, whose dad takes him shopping and passes a collection plate to NCAA recruiters.
southernbill Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 You are a fool if you want to draft Newton with a top 10 pick. That is a way too risky pick. Scrambling QB's are at best a 50/50 chance to suceed in the NFL. Draft Newton then we find out he can't run over NFL linebackers like he did college linebackers and he is useless because his accuracy isn't that great when teams drop back in zone.
Gugny Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 This is so simple, it's not even funny. We need a Puerto Rican-Jewish QB. Buddy Nix is checking to see if Geraldo Rivera has a son.
jblack Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Newton Classy??? His father shopped him around for cash His father was a part time storefront preacher who now suddenly has gotten the money to build a "mega-church" Auburn a classy program??? Like the booster who took the players to his friend's Casino where they were set up with private slot machines that won on EVERY pull of the lever Wait until after the bowl games and Auburn gets the NCAA "death sentence". Newton will be off making money in the NFL when that happens Newton's father is a greddy Elmer Gentryesque charlatan and the apple does not fall far from the tree That does not mean the Bills should not draft Newton because he can make them winners By the way, if Bills fans were not so hung up on "image", we could have signed Michael Vick and we would be headed to the playoffs this year i agree on vick
TheBows Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 How many college students are "family men"? Kids between 18 and 25 should be inherintly selfish so that they can work on their professional crafts to be able to provide for an eventual family and contribute to the world by providing services associated with their craft. I'd rather have a quarterback thanking his conditioning coach and not thanking his family and worrying about the three children he had to two different mothers when he was fifteen. What the heck does being Irish-Catholic have to do with character or football? Maybe an extablished guilt complex? Check out the history of the Kennedy family, there were a lot of weeds along the way. And who the heck on this board pushed for an Irish-Catholic quarterback? Was Jim Kelly "classy"? Down-to-earth, maybe, but classy? If Cam Newton is stupid, do we want him? I think of all the attributes you listed, this one is actually important. Stupidity can lead to a lot. Just look at Ben Rothlisberger (alright, bad example. He's a good quarterback, but I think you get my point). Where are you going with this? Is this post to support Cam Newton or to suggest that the people on this board are too ignorant to evaluate talent. Atleast you're hopeful that Fitz can be Irish Catholic one day... Not making a character judgment on Jim here. Just not the adjective that came to mind when I thought of Jim Kelly. I'm sure he's a good guy.
DrDawkinstein Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Not making a character judgment on Jim here. Just not the adjective that came to mind when I thought of Jim Kelly. I'm sure he's a good guy. No need to sugar coat what anyone who lived in Buffalo in the 80s knows. Kelly was a punk and an outright A-hole for years in Buffalo. But there was no internet and 24-hour media then. Additionally, people do grow up and mature through their 20s. And (most importantly) winning cures everything.
Bronc24 Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 That $12.25 / gallon vodka is responsible for some effed up sh#t.
Bills99999 Posted December 16, 2010 Author Posted December 16, 2010 Great idea...Shut down the thread Bury your head in the sand like a stork I was derunker than usual last night I meant to say “ostrich” This is so simple, it's not even funny. We need a Puerto Rican-Jewish QB. Buddy Nix is checking to see if Geraldo Rivera has a son. Is there a way of contacting this guy? Maybe through a Norre Dame alumni network If Notre Dame has no problems with diverse QB's, why do the Bills? http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4211151.html Not making a character judgment on Jim here. Just not the adjective that came to mind when I thought of Jim Kelly. I'm sure he's a good guy. Jim Lelly was a bot wild in his younger days, but he was given a free pass when his child was born messed up. That matured him I had not heard about the Cam Newton stolen laptop story So, let's list the things that make him a scumbag 1. Stolen Laptop 2. Tossed out of Florida for cheating 3. Daddy is a money preacher 4. Casino winner 5. Pay for play I'll bet he didnt sign with Florida or that JC free either. Wait until somebody picks those scabs I also have some dirt on Fitzpatrick...I was told he got drunk at a frat party one time and pissed in the bushes of the Harvard Yard on his way back to the dorm...A Wildman
bowery4 Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 I can't believe how willing ppl are to feed a troll go away you drunk (and I do realize this makes me a hypocrite but it needed to be said IMO).
Bills99999 Posted December 16, 2010 Author Posted December 16, 2010 That $12.25 / gallon vodka is responsible for some effed up sh#t. Vidka makes me more creative Abnother reason Bills fans are jelous of the Patriots is because they have Bob Brady as their QB even though he has a child out of wedlock
Mr. WEO Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 You are a fool if you want to draft Newton with a top 10 pick. That is a way too risky pick. Scrambling QB's are at best a 50/50 chance to suceed in the NFL. Draft Newton then we find out he can't run over NFL linebackers like he did college linebackers and he is useless because his accuracy isn't that great when teams drop back in zone. What games were those? What's interesting is that he has only had more than 25 attempts once this year, yet has 7 games with at least 200 yards passing. At 6' 6" and 260, I'm confident he could run over each and every one of our LBs.
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) Fitz doesn't exactly look Irish Catholic with the beard.....more Amish than anything else. Actually now that I think of it, he looks like the guy from "The Hangover"...maybe Fitz is just a loan wolfpack. Actually isn't he a jedi? From what I understand one of his pupil's sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped him conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given him clairvoyance enough to find the rebels' hidden fortress. ...but I digress. Edited December 16, 2010 by dollars 2 donuts
Austin_Bills_Fan Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 Personally, I believe in Bedullah, the God that Hightower is chanting "yama yama yama yama yaaaa-ma" to when he's sprinkling the dust on Tackleberry in Police Academy 4: Citizens on Patrol. To each their own I guess. It's amazing that someone actually watched Police Academy 4. As if the first Police Academy wasnt bad enough.
Bills99999 Posted December 16, 2010 Author Posted December 16, 2010 My brother goes to sports bars almost every day for lunch and then about four nights a week so he gets a lot of inside info His sources tell him the Bills are looking at these prospects in rounds 3-7 Jake Kirkpatrick, C, TCU Patrick Coughlin, RB, Notre Dame Nick Fitzpatrick, WR, Notre Dame Ryan Kavanagh, LS, Notre Dame Dennis Mahoney, OT, Notre Dame Dan McCarthy, S, Notre Dame Ryan Sheehan, CB, Notre Dame Pat O’Connell, LB, Holy Cross Rory Sullivan, LB, Holy Cross Tim McManus, WR, Dartmouth Tim O'Hara K, Harvard Pat McMahon, OT, Timon/StJude Jomarcus Savage, DT, Grambling I don’t know about you guys, but I see a pattern here. Will the Bills be serving Lucky Charms Cereal at training camp next year
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