RkFast Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Backdrop? I thought that backdrops were useless props used to fool the public. At least thats what you retards said when Bush used them. Too !@#$ing easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 If he was talking to the media why did he need the school kids? Because they had a bunch of extra small, white doctor coats they planned to pass out before that health care speech he gave on the WH lawn, but the short doctors didn't show up and he didn't want the coats to go to waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I thought that backdrops were useless props used to fool the public. At least thats what you retards said when Bush used them. Too !@#$ing easy. Back drops are always used to enhance the message. I never said that by the way. D.A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Back drops are always used to enhance the message. I never said that by the way. D.A. "You" as in the left. Jesus, cant you keep up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 "You" as in the left. Jesus, cant you keep up? I understood what you meant by "left" dumbass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 30, 2010 Author Share Posted November 30, 2010 Since you brought her up, would you vote for her in a primary? I suppose that would depend upon who her opponent was. At this point in time I would lean toward someone that is qualified to best lead this country out of the financial mess that Bush/Obama/Democrat Congress put us in. I also would want someone who had the courage to stand up to other countries and protect this country from rogue regimes, terrorists and illegal aliens. I guess right now Mitt Romney comes to mind re the financial mess but I'm undecided about him fulfilling the other requirements. I personally like Sarah Palin but believe that she is not seasoned enough. We're finding out now what happens when an inexperienced idealogue gets put in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I suppose that would depend upon who her opponent was. At this point in time I would lean toward someone that is qualified to best lead this country out of the financial mess that Bush/Obama/Democrat Congress put us in. I also would want someone who had the courage to stand up to other countries and protect this country from rogue regimes, terrorists and illegal aliens. I guess right now Mitt Romney comes to mind re the financial mess but I'm undecided about him fulfilling the other requirements. I personally like Sarah Palin but believe that she is not seasoned enough. We're finding out now what happens when an inexperienced idealogue gets put in charge. I might be in the minority, but I think that there are enough people that would consider voting for Palin that a serious presidential run is not out of the question. With a third party candidate from the Left that could split the Democratic vote in a general election - A President Palin is not inconceivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I might be in the minority, but I think that there are enough people that would consider voting for Palin that a serious presidential run is not out of the question. With a third party candidate from the Left that could split the Democratic vote in a general election - A President Palin is not inconceivable. That would be the only sort of scenario that she could win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 (edited) That would be the only sort of scenario that she could win. Certainly not the only one...but perhaps the most likely. The biggest hurdle is not the general election, it winning the Republican nomination. A well-timed presidential scandal is never out of the question either. If she made it to the general, she would be extremely credible. The backing of the entire Republican Party still carries clout. Edited November 30, 2010 by X. Benedict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 That is the million dollar question. Not so much Third, but most Repubs, will they vote for Sarah? If it is a crowded primary, considering she has so many die hard loyalists that she probably would win it. I just hope they realize that if they vote for her and she wins, that Obama wins. It's as simple as that. If they want this country to avoid another comical Obama term, than they have to stay away from Sarah. I'm registered as an independent, and I'm thinking about switching to GOP just so that I can do my part to help make sure she doesn't get the nod. I know I covered Palin extensively in the other Palin thread, but I think if ever there was a perfect, perfect microcosm of the scenario you described above, it is what just happened in my state, Delaware. I mean seriously, you couldn't make up a more neatly mirrored situation if you tried. DE '10 US '12 Majority of registered voters Democrats X X Mainstream Republican candidate likely to win X X Democrat nominee considered very liberal X X Republican nominee viewed as under-qualified by majority X X Republican nominee looks and acts like Sarah Palin X X Delaware actually has a history of votes crossing party lines pretty regularly. What O'Donnell did (intentionally through her campaign strategy and unintentionally through her overall perception) was force people back to rank and file. It became an election of who is least electable. That is a battle Republicans could not win in Delaware. And I think it is one that Republicans will likely not win in the national election either. ESPECIALLY if they can't even get behind her as a unified front like they never did for O'Donnell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I might be in the minority, but I think that there are enough people that would consider voting for Palin that a serious presidential run is not out of the question. With a third party candidate from the Left that could split the Democratic vote in a general election - A President Palin is not inconceivable. And if that happens, we should all move to Canada. Damn, the United States would be the laughing stock of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 We already are if you haven't read the news for the last 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 And if that happens, we should all move to Canada. Damn, the United States would be the laughing stock of the world. WOULD BE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 WOULD BE? Ok, much larger joke than we are. Do you think leaders would really care about what she says and care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Ok, much larger joke than we are. Do you think leaders would really care about what she says and care? Yeah, they are really giving the current president a good ear.....I think the South Koreans actually said "Really, Barry? Really??" when he tried to get them to agree to that trade deal a few weeks back. And what nut would vote for an inexperienced person who relies on cult of personality to win the day in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 (edited) We can talk about respect or who's laughing at who all we want, the bottom line for any serious minded person is RESULTS. Since we are talking about the perception of our president abroad, one only has to look at what our president has achieved with our overseas partners. Well, he did get the Nobel Peace Prize, then he decided to escalate the war in Afghanistan. Then he goes to lobby for the Olympics, everyone expects that we get it, and it turns out we got last place in the voting. Then he goes for last year's climate change to strike a deal, then he gets stood up by the Chinese PM and no real deal was struck. We give Russia this nice Reset Button along with our withdrawal of Missile defenses for Poland (which was a betrayal of a loyal ally) and Russia doesn't do anything to press Iran over it's Nuclear ambitions, in fact they help them with Uranium enrichment process He tries to broker a peace deal between Israel and the Palestines, and the Israelis announces more expansion projects while VP Biden is visiting Israel. We try to get more troops to contribute to Afghanistan from NATO, and instead of an increase of troops, there actually was an announcement of a DECREASE in troops. He goes overseas to S. Korea where it is widely expected he would come back with a trade agreement that was already in place from his predecessor, and he strikes out. We ask China to talk to N. Korea about their activities, instead of pressuring N. Korea, they criticize us for running military exercises in that part of the world. This is just from the top of my head, I'm sure I could list more. The reality is that even though people like him overseas and for that matter at home, he's just not able to deliver. Edited November 30, 2010 by Magox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 We can talk about respect or who's laughing at who all we want, the bottom line for any serious minded person is RESULTS. Since we are talking about the perception of our president abroad, one only has to look at what our president has achieved with our overseas partners. Well, he did get the Nobel Peace Prize, then he decided to escalate the war in Afghanistan. Then he goes to lobby for the Olympics, everyone expects that we get it, and it turns out we got last place in the voting. Then he goes for last year's climate change to strike a deal, then he gets stood up by the Chinese PM and no real deal was struck. We give Russia this nice Reset Button along with our withdrawal of Missile defenses for Poland (which was a betrayal of a loyal ally) and Russia doesn't do anything to press Iran over it's Nuclear ambitions, in fact they help them with Uranium enrichment process He tries to broker a peace deal between Israel and the Palestines, and the Israelis announces more expansion projects while VP Biden is visiting Israel. We try to get more troops to contribute to Afghanistan from NATO, and instead of an increase of troops, there actually was an announcement of a DECREASE in troops. He goes overseas to S. Korea where it is widely expected he would come back with a trade agreement that was already in place from his predecessor, and he strikes out. We ask China to talk to N. Korea about their activities, instead of pressuring N. Korea, they criticize us for running military exercises in that part of the world. This is just from the top of my head, I'm sure I could list more. The reality is that even though people like him overseas and for that matter at home, he's just not able to deliver. He bows really swell, too. I'm just say'in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 The reality is that even though people like him ... he's just not able to deliver. Barack Obama: The Trent Edwards of presidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Barack Obama: The Trent Edwards of presidents. Yeah, but when did the fatal concussion occur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Yeah, but when did the fatal concussion occur? Right after he was elected. Knocked himself down a flight of stairs while patting himself on the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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