PromoTheRobot Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 Did I read correctly that Luck is only a sophomore? All the more reason to be very wary of his hype. How old us he? PTR
JohnC Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 Did I read correctly that Luck is only a sophomore? All the more reason to be very wary of his hype. How old us he? PTR He is a red-shirt sophomore which means that he is a junior in school. There are many rating services. Most of them have him rated as the top draft pick. Is he being overly hpyed? Of course. So was Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford. If the Bills have a chance to draft him and they don't pick him then this franchise should be laughed out of existence.
1B4IDie Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 He is a red-shirt sophomore which means that he is a junior in school. There are many rating services. Most of them have him rated as the top draft pick. Is he being overly hpyed? Of course. So was Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford. If the Bills have a chance to draft him and they don't pick him then this franchise should be laughed out of existence. Same can be said for Carolina.
flmike Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 How about Nose Tackles? Any out there worth a 1st or 2nd round pick?
Bangarang Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 How about Nose Tackles? Any out there worth a 1st or 2nd round pick? Kyle Williams says hello and we just drafted Torell Troup in the 2nd round of last year's draft who is a pretty good space eating 3-4 NT. I'd say we're pretty good at that position. We also have Alex Carrington at DE, who is a man child. The only problem is that Troup & Carrington aren't known for being pass rushers as much as they are for being run stoppers and gap fillers. But, in a 3-4 scheme, you're pass rushing is coming mainly from your OLB. Which is why pass rushing OLB is a must for us.
The Senator Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 Did I read correctly that Luck is only a sophomore? All the more reason to be very wary of his hype. How old us he? PTR He turned 21 in September, and will be 21 - a child, in NFL terms - when the 2011 season begins.
bobobonators Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 aaah..not sure man. this is a very high risk/potentially high reward pick (quinn)..i dunno..to take a guy at 3 who has only really had one great season in college and has been off this entire season is just wayyyyy too risky for me. considering Fox will probably be out of Carolina this season, you can bet your ass that if Luck comes out, and carolina has the #1 pick, the new coach is going to want his guy at QB. they'd probably take luck at 1 even if fox stays. nobody on this board have any love for the BEAST in my sig, VON MILLER?
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 aaah..not sure man. this is a very high risk/potentially high reward pick (quinn)..i dunno..to take a guy at 3 who has only really had one great season in college and has been off this entire season is just wayyyyy too risky for me. considering Fox will probably be out of Carolina this season, you can bet your ass that if Luck comes out, and carolina has the #1 pick, the new coach is going to want his guy at QB. they'd probably take luck at 1 even if fox stays. nobody on this board have any love for the BEAST in my sig, VON MILLER? Von Miller, no thanks....I didn't like him the first time when his name was Aaron Maybin I know it's a risky proposition, given our recent history drafting "one year wonders," but I really think that Quinn will be the best defensive player taken in this draft. He's big (6-5 270), fast (clocked at 4.38 in the 40) and tremendously athletic. Watch some film on the guy, particularly the you tube clip of him vs. Anthony Castonso, and you will notice that he relies on both his strength and speed to rush the passer. He is also very stout holding up blockers against the rush. He could very aptly play OLB in the 3-4, and if they decide to go with the 4-3 next season, he could play DE. Hell, he could probably play DE in the 3-4 if needed. I really think he will develop into a Julius Peppers type defensive player.
808 Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 bowers looks really good too. i like quinn a lot. if we went 1. robert quinn and 2. hinezrich(sp) from BC to go along side poz in the middle. that would be a awesome first 2 rounds
pimp on da' net Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 He is a red-shirt sophomore which means that he is a junior in school. There are many rating services. Most of them have him rated as the top draft pick. Is he being overly hpyed? Of course. So was Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford. If the Bills have a chance to draft him and they don't pick him then this franchise should be laughed out of existence. IMHO you should not compare Luck to these QB's, they had multiple years of success in college being the major engine behind there offense. I believe Peyton started all four years, last year Luck gained recognition as a compliment to Gerhardt so this is really his 1st yr of being the man. At the beginning of the season, poster were enamored with Locker ( who previously showed promise after a one yr as the focus of his offense) what has happened since explains my hesitation with one yr performers.Give Luck time, he hasn't even declared or at least wait to see him play in the conference champ or bowl season before anointing him a franchise savior. My picks would go along the lines of drafting 1st-OT- Constanzo (BC), 2nd- best avail def play maker either DL or OLB and 3rd- see 2nd rd.. I would then move Bell to RT, sign the best 3-4 avail FA LB (D. Harris)and the rest of the picks would go to interior line depth and best avail player. We have the money to after quality FA's, the Bills have been so far below the cap for the past 3-5 yrs and it shows depth wise. Could you imagine this offense with consistent solid OL play, esp for the run game and with the chemistry that Fitz has developed with Gailey could be? Couple that with an opportunistic front seven which makes the secondary that much better...I dunno know bout you but hell, I can't wait another 10 yrs. Pretty sure Ralph and Nix can't either...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 He turned 21 in September, and will be 21 - a child, in NFL terms - when the 2011 season begins. So was Maybin as a rookie. He's 22 now, second youngest player on the Bills.
crazyDingo Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 "...having a pass rusher with the burst of Maybin..." Did they mean "bust"? The only "burst" I've seen from Maybin was "into tears" on the sidelines.
pimp on da' net Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 constanzo in the top 10 would be a reach. IMO the best LT candidate in the draft, excellent footwork and athleticism. The other prospects seem better at RT, Constanzo reminds me of D. Ferguson when he was at VU.
John from Riverside Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 If that draft played out like that I would rather trade down and take Bowers.....
808 Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 constanzo is the best LT in the draft so far. but in a year that LT isnt as strong as DL it wouldnt make to much sense to take um that high. kind of reaching for need. id rather take best player available. and itll be quinn/bowers or andrew luck
The Senator Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 So was Maybin as a rookie. He's 22 now, second youngest player on the Bills. An excellent argument for not drafting inexperienced children, if ever I heard one!
JohnC Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 I dunno know bout you but hell, I can't wait another 10 yrs. Pretty sure Ralph and Nix can't either... You need to refresh your memory. The owner emphatically stated that there needs to be PATIENCE AND PAIN. He included that he might not be around when things finally get turned around. You might feel an urgency but he doesn't. He's the boss. And don't you forget it.
billsfan89 Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 Mocks are kind of useless there is still some more college games left to play (Including championship bowl games) and the combines and evaluation process changes boards big time as well. In theory I would like to see either a LT or a pass rusher.
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