starrymessenger Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 If you do not have a first down then you take a hit. If you have a first down you avoid the hit. That is how you protect yourself in the long run. Correct. Avoiding big hits is smart. But there is no getting away from the fact that football is the premier contact sport and sometimes you have to sacrifice the body to get things done, otherwise you are underperforming. Just another reason Andre Reed should be in the HOF.
Chimp Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 I wouldn't exactly call him smart he just does not like getting hit. When our games mean something and we need that extra yard to win a game everyone will be up in arms. To me thats his only flaw but it can and probably will come back to hurt us if or when a game actually counts. Have you ever watched him play? He doesn't fight for an extra yard...really? Did you see his touchdown against KC that he wouldn't have made if he didn't fight for the extra yard? Have you ever noticed that most of the time he catches the ball in position to gain 5 or 10 yards without being touched? Sunday at 1...you should tune in.
yungmack Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Take a similar player like Austin Collie...who may have gotten concussed again over the weekend. I mean his career is at stake now b/c he takes some big hits after receptions. Our man Stevie, catches the ball in traffic and kinda' goes in slide mode when he's about to get drilled. I personally think its brilliant. What a brutal position it is to play and Stevie knows when to get the 1st down and get out of harms way. One of the greatest players ever was Jim Brown. If he absolutely had to, he'd run into the defenders (or, really, run OVER them). And sometimes he'd do it to punish someone. But what he was famous for, and often criticized for, was running out of bounds when he determined it was foolish to go any further. Jim Brown retired at 29, with relatively excellent health. He also held most of the rushing records for years and years. And he did it in mostly 12 game seasons, with the only post season game being the championship. And the Browns were one of the best teams ever.
Cash Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Take a similar player like Austin Collie...who may have gotten concussed again over the weekend. I mean his career is at stake now b/c he takes some big hits after receptions. Our man Stevie, catches the ball in traffic and kinda' goes in slide mode when he's about to get drilled. I personally think its brilliant. What a brutal position it is to play and Stevie knows when to get the 1st down and get out of harms way. That was one of the keys to the "Greatest Show on Turf" '99-'01 Rams. Bruce, Holt, Hakim, Proehl, et al. would usually go down in a slide instead of taking a big hit over the middle. As long as the WR isn't giving up any potentially big RAC, I'm all for it. You can't help the team from the trainer's table.
Webster Guy Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Sometimes it seems a little wimpy but like one poster said, if he already has the first down and he's being angled out of bounds I suppose its ok. The other thing not mentioned is that sometimes fighting for the extra yard causes turnovers, especially with the WR arms holding the ball instead of the usually stronger RB's who have way more experience with ball protection. Watch for Lee's production accelerating now that the coverage will lean toward Stevie. The other cool thing about this dude is that he is VERY gracious to the rest of the team in his interviews. He plays like he has something to prove as a 7th rounder but he doesn't have that annoying "im a black man nobody believed in" victim type approach like T.O. or some of these other guys that become vindictive in their interviews and only talk about themselves and their skills and how great they are. Bruce used to make me cringe with that stuff. I love humble, great athletes that are team players and Stevie is one of 'em.
Billsguy Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Take a similar player like Austin Collie...who may have gotten concussed again over the weekend. I mean his career is at stake now b/c he takes some big hits after receptions. Our man Stevie, catches the ball in traffic and kinda' goes in slide mode when he's about to get drilled. I personally think its brilliant. What a brutal position it is to play and Stevie knows when to get the 1st down and get out of harms way. You want to talk about a smart dude? How about Lee Evans. He has been in the league for about 6 years now, he gets paid over $9 million dollars a year and he has never been seen between the hash marks! Apparently he must have a clause in his contract that requires all of his pass routes to be within 5 yards of the sideline. I have never seen him catch a pass on a crossing route. Talk about smart!!!
RealityCheck Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 You want to talk about a smart dude? How about Lee Evans. He has been in the league for about 6 years now, he gets paid over $9 million dollars a year and he has never been seen between the hash marks! Apparently he must have a clause in his contract that requires all of his pass routes to be within 5 yards of the sideline. I have never seen him catch a pass on a crossing route. Talk about smart!!! Don't drink so much during the games, you might actually notice something other than a misconception.
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