zow2 Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) Take a similar player like Austin Collie...who may have gotten concussed again over the weekend. I mean his career is at stake now b/c he takes some big hits after receptions. Our man Stevie, catches the ball in traffic and kinda' goes in slide mode when he's about to get drilled. I personally think its brilliant. What a brutal position it is to play and Stevie knows when to get the 1st down and get out of harms way. Edited November 22, 2010 by zow2
nucci Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 Take a similar player like Austin Collie...who may have gotten concussed again over the weekend. I mean his career is at stake now b/c he takes some big hits after receptions. Our man Stevie, catches the ball in traffic and kinda' goes in slide mode when he's about to get drilled. I personally think its brilliant. What a brutal position it is to play and Stevie knows when to get the 1st down and get out of harms way. great observation. He does seem to avoid big hits.
l< j Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 Along those lines, watching his 1st TD, where he pulled out the now-infamous shirt, I cringed when he got tackled as he crossed the goal line. It really looked awkward when he came down on that trailing leg. kj
cjatcreek07 Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 Are we watching the emergence of our next superstar wideout? Its way too early to tell but I can't help thinking about it.
shoretalk Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 Are we watching the emergence of our next superstar wideout? Its way too early to tell but I can't help thinking about it. Time to get out the extension paperwork and sign him to a big bucks contract that keeps him here!
JayD Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 I wouldn't exactly call him smart he just does not like getting hit. When our games mean something and we need that extra yard to win a game everyone will be up in arms. To me thats his only flaw but it can and probably will come back to hurt us if or when a game actually counts.
Van_phelaN1 Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 Time to get out the extension paperwork and sign him to a big bucks contract that keeps him here! Not until we have to, I don't want him to get too fat and happy. I think Johnson and Fitz are a package deal though. They even said the chemistry they developed on the second team reps have a lot to do with the success we are having now. I also noticed he is smart about going down when he knows he is caught. Working out of the slot taught him about that one I bet lol. I wouldn't exactly call him smart he just does not like getting hit. When our games mean something and we need that extra yard to win a game everyone will be up in arms. To me thats his only flaw but it can and probably will come back to hurt us if or when a game actually counts. Not wanting to get hit by several fast running Cadillacs sized men? Sounds like a smart idea to me
goynahan Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 Isaac bruce and tory holt were the kings at going down instead of fighting for a yard or two, both had great, long careers. You can't keep making plays if you can't stay on the field
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 Let's not confuse being soft with being smart. Steve Johnson plays smart because he avoids unnecessary contact. And there is no indication that he's soft; i.e., I haven't seen him pull up or give up on a play because he was scared of contact. He just avoids contact when he can, which I think is the recipe to a long career.
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 22, 2010 Posted November 22, 2010 Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne also both went down easy. It's definitely key to longevity as a WR. Exactly. It's funny that people criticize him for not taking hits. Would he be "manlier" if he took a hit, got injured, or fumbled?
DreReed83 Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Time to get out the extension paperwork and sign him to a big bucks contract that keeps him here! Ralph forking over the big bucks? LOL. We might as well say bye to Johnson in a couple years.
The Wang From Sang Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Stevie is the 5 year old next door!
Wacka Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Let's not confuse being soft with being smart. Steve Johnson plays smart because he avoids unnecessary contact. And there is no indication that he's soft; i.e., I haven't seen him pull up or give up on a play because he was scared of contact. He just avoids contact when he can, which I think is the recipe to a long career. That's what Emmitt Smith would do with the Cowboys. I notice he ran out of bounds a lot after getting the first down instead of getting hit.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Isaac bruce and tory holt were the kings at going down instead of fighting for a yard or two, both had great, long careers. You can't keep making plays if you can't stay on the field Exactly. Sometimes, it's absolutely necessary to fight. Fight to get the extra yard on a crucial 3rd down. Fight to get out of bounds in the waning moments of the game. Most of the time, however, it's more prudent to avoid the big hit and sacrifice a yard. Besides, Stevie has proven himself to be a YAC monster this season. Not by running over defensive backs...but by running PAST them. Dude is great at juking and cutting.
peteski Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 If you do not have a first down then you take a hit. If you have a first down you avoid the hit. That is how you protect yourself in the long run.
zow2 Posted November 23, 2010 Author Posted November 23, 2010 I think it's interesting that as a WR, you don't want them taking big hits...there's nothing to gain by grinding for an extra yard in most cases. I think self-preservation is a good thing and Stevie knows that. As a RB, they are considered tough if they smash heads. Totally different positions. Even with RB's, it's ok if a guy like Lynch or Marion Barber wants to create havoc but you don't want CJ Spiller or guys like that trying to take guys on too much. It's just a recipe for injury.
McBeane Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Exactly. Sometimes, it's absolutely necessary to fight. Fight to get the extra yard on a crucial 3rd down. Fight to get out of bounds in the waning moments of the game. Most of the time, however, it's more prudent to avoid the big hit and sacrifice a yard. Besides, Stevie has proven himself to be a YAC monster this season. Not by running over defensive backs...but by running PAST them. Dude is great at juking and cutting. It's such an uncanny ability he has to be able to do that. When you see him in the open field with the ball in his hands, he doesn't look like the most shifty and quick guy, but man this guy can run around defenders and make people miss with the best of them. That's unteachable.
Pirate Angel Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Wide outs in the NFL are coached that when you run a slant or a dig route against a zone defense you catch the ball and get down. Of coarse this isnt always the case high passes and yardage situations you either have to take the big hit or gamble on being able to dodge it. the size and speed of these players the hit is coming so prepare yourself. This was a statement made by Micheal Irvin the week all those fine where given out, saying some of these hits are the recievers fault for not doing what there coached.
flomoe Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Isaac bruce and tory holt were the kings at going down instead of fighting for a yard or two, both had great, long careers. You can't keep making plays if you can't stay on the field Someone needs to tell that to Roscoe. I love the fact that the guy fights for every inch out there but he is constantly getting hurt. Maybe it's time for him to realize that he weighs about half of everyone else out there and he should be avoiding some of those hits. I know the broken wrist was kind of a fluke but the fact is, he is worth more to this team playing every week as opposed to getting a handful of weeks a season out of him.
The_Philster Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Ralph forking over the big bucks? LOL. We might as well say bye to Johnson in a couple years. There's still people who believe Ralph is cheap even though he's been giving big money to players for several decades?
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