JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I want him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4_w-puInqY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I want him. youtube.com/watch?v=S4_w-puInqY So glad you brought up that play. I don't mean to be the turd in the punch bowl here because I fully understand how much fun the blindfolded Andrew Luck circle jay is having, but for reals, homey: That was a great college play. In the NFL he a.) doesn't make it 20 yards past the LOS before being chased down and b.) he sure as **** doesn't forearm shiver a professional DB in the open field like that. But I agree, it was an awesome college play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I never knew he was THAAAT fast. He has great size, pocket presence, speed, accuracy, arm strength, intelligence and decision making ability. If Carolina gets the first pick, will they draft him? You would think that they wouldn't because of Claussen, but I wouldn't be so sure, Luck might be awfully hard to pass up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I don't mean to be the turd in the punch bowl here because I fully understand how much fun the blindfolded Ryan Mallett circle jay is having, but for reals, homey: That was a great college play. In the NFL he a.) won't have receivers open, with no defenders in sight and b.) will get sacked due to his poor pocket presence, slow feet and slow release. fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) fixed A tangential agenda, but an agenda nonetheless, I guess... Care to weigh in on the subject of the thread? Edited November 21, 2010 by The Big Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 A tangential agenda, but an agenda nonetheless, I guess... Care to weigh in on the subject of the thread? Sure. Luck is, IMO, by far, the best QB prospect in college football. that good enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 So glad you brought up that play. I don't mean to be the turd in the punch bowl here because I fully understand how much fun the blindfolded Andrew Luck circle jay is having, but for reals, homey: That was a great college play. In the NFL he a.) doesn't make it 20 yards past the LOS before being chased down and b.) he sure as **** doesn't forearm shiver a professional DB in the open field like that. But I agree, it was an awesome college play. It was a great college play. But thinking this can never happen in the pros is total nonsense. QBs never have 20-yard runs without getting caught? There are NO smaller DBs in the league susceptible to a forearm from a 240 lb QB? Big Ben throws defensive linemen off with one arm. Luck is a total package. He has every QB tool, and all at a high level of proficiency. What makes him special are his intelligence and his toughness. The mere fact that he threw the forearm is what should make him stand out from the others, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 It was a great college play. But thinking this can never happen in the pros is total nonsense. QBs never have 20-yard runs without getting caught? There are NO smaller DBs in the league susceptible to a forearm from a 240 lb QB? Big Ben throws defensive linemen off with one arm. Luck is a total package. He has every QB tool, and all at a high level of proficiency. What makes him special are his intelligence and his toughness. The mere fact that he threw the forearm is what should make him stand out from the others, IMO. If it was a 20 yard run, I wouldn't have said anything. It was a 58 yard run. Fred Jackson doesn't have 58 yard run speed. So unless we think Luck has better game speed than Jackson, I maintain that he doesn't make it that far. Luck is a very solid quarterback. I don't think his collegiate body of work vaults him into the annuls of NFL greatness, just yet. I'd like to see him come back next year and truly dominate before I'm ready to crown him king of the face of the franchise quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 So glad you brought up that play. I don't mean to be the turd in the punch bowl here because I fully understand how much fun the blindfolded Andrew Luck circle jay is having, but for reals, homey: That was a great college play. In the NFL he a.) doesn't make it 20 yards past the LOS before being chased down and b.) he sure as **** doesn't forearm shiver a professional DB in the open field like that. But I agree, it was an awesome college play. The guy he knocked over is a big hitter and strong, 6'2" 216, was honorable mention Pac 10 as a sophomore and will very likely be playing in the NFL in two years when he surely will e drafted, and maybe high. He is one of the better rated safeties around even though he started the season hurt. When you watch any Cal game, the announcers will invariably talk about what a big hitter this guy is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 It was a 58 yard run. Fred Jackson doesn't have 58 yard run speed. So unless we think Luck has better game speed than Jackson, I maintain that he doesn't make it that far. My bad about the yardage. But if you think the distance of a run is ONLY about speed, you are mistaken. Luck is ready now. He is the best player in college football, IMO. He can only hurt his draft status by staying in school, as he will be #1 or #2 in the 2011 draft. Of course an NFL lockout changes that thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Bill Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) I don't think the OP was comparing Luck to anyone. You can't argue that right now Luck is the obvious class of the class and #1 overall draft pick. You're not trying to say that you need a QB who can outrun your starting RB, are you?? That's a pretty high standard. If anything, the play is a good example of Luck's heart and brain -- he's undoubtedly a gamer. The stiff arm was as much an overplay by the DB, but you gotta give him credit for vision, strength and speed. Edited November 21, 2010 by Sabre Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) My bad about the yardage. But if you think the distance of a run is ONLY about speed, you are mistaken. Luck is ready now. He is the best player in college football, IMO. He can only hurt his draft status by staying in school, as he will be #1 or #2 in the 2011 draft. Of course an NFL lockout changes that thinking. I just don't see the statistical anamolies that the NFL impact quarterbacks have coming out of college: i.e. Sam Bradford's 50 TD season, Matt Ryan's 4500 yd senior year, Philip Rivers' entire career, ect. EDIT: I don't anyone to think I skimped on this analysis so let me give you the 12 top 5 drafted QB's since 2000: Scratched = not "impact" QB's Sam Bradford, definitely having an "impact" Matt Stafford Can't stay healthy...can't call him "impact" Mark Sanchez Too much D, too much running, it's not Mark's team, yet. Matt Ryan, "impact" with a capital "I" JaMarcus Russel Vince Young, don't know why this guy doesn't get more playing time, I say he's "impact" Alex Smith Eli Manning, see Mark Sanchez Philip Rivers Carson Palmer, I'll defer to the thread started about this already David Carr Joey Harrington Mike Vick, the exception to the rule Please note that all "impact" players put up sick numbers or won national championships in college. I see neither of those things from Luck, yet. Edited November 21, 2010 by The Big Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 ...or Colt Brennan's and Timmy Chang's stats at Hawaii, Graham Harrell at TT, Chase Daniel at Mizzou, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 He'd swat down Maybin and run through Whitner. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 ...or Colt Brennan's and Timmy Chang's stats at Hawaii, Graham Harrell at TT, Chase Daniel at Mizzou, etc.... What do these guys have to do with top 5 picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 What do these guys have to do with top 5 picks? I posted before you edited your post (which added the "Top 5 Pick" qualifier) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Who cares if Luck wont be able to scramble for 60 yards and bowl over DBs in the NFL. That play showcases his athletic ability and his toughness and strength. He really is the complete package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I posted before you edited your post (which added the "Top 5 Pick" qualifier) Gotcha. Hence why I scrambled to qualify my point. Because yours would have been the apt response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Sure. Luck is, IMO, by far, the best QB prospect in college football. that good enough for you? Wow, that was good analysis - and Luck's dad agrees with you too! It was a great college play. But thinking this can never happen in the pros is total nonsense. QBs never have 20-yard runs without getting caught? There are NO smaller DBs in the league susceptible to a forearm from a 240 lb QB? Big Ben throws defensive linemen off with one arm. Luck is a total package. He has every QB tool, and all at a high level of proficiency. What makes him special are his intelligence and his toughness. The mere fact that he threw the forearm is what should make him stand out from the others, IMO. Toughness. Yes. Two seasons in the PAC 10 have certainly proven his toughness. (You left out 'durability' - after 2 seasons, there can't be much doubt about that either.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Wow, that was good analysis - and Luck's dad agrees with you too! Lets here yours on Mallet... Let me guess "Hes 6'7"!!! and can throw it really really hard!!! Just look at his stats!!! SEC!!! Hes Great!!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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