I am off the Fitzpatrick bandwagon

[The Wang From Sang]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the Quarterback situation in Buffalo. Personally, I have seen enough. I didn't say much because I needed to see 4 or 5 more games in Buffalo. I saw 4 games with the Bengals about 10 with Buffalo.

 

I am not going to make excuses anymore. This guy reminds me of rookie cop at the firing range that shoots out the water cooler.

 

I hope he gets better but if he doesn't I still want to see Brian Brohm or draft a new QB.

 

Should you decide to stick with Brohm, I wish you well!

Edited November 15, 2010 by The Wang From Sang

[mikef272002]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the Quarterback situation in Buffalo. Personally, I have seen enough. I didn't say much because I needed to see 4 or 5 more games in Buffalo. I saw 4 games with the Bengals about 10 with Buffalo.

 

I am not going to make excuses anymore. This guy reminds me of rookie cop at the firing range that shoots out the water cooler.

 

I hope he gets better but if he doesn't I still want to see Brian Brohm or draft a new QB.

 

Should you decide to stick with Brohm, I wish you well!

You saw about 10 games..? Haven't they only played 9, or are you from the future.? Ok, So must be I just gave it away, if your from the future, and your watching Fitzpatrick there, then must be Fitzpatrick = Bills QB Of the future..!

[mattsox]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the Quarterback situation in Buffalo. Personally, I have seen enough. I didn't say much because I needed to see 4 or 5 more games in Buffalo. I saw 4 games with the Bengals about 10 with Buffalo.

 

I am not going to make excuses anymore. This guy reminds me of rookie cop at the firing range that shoots out the water cooler.

 

I hope he gets better but if he doesn't I still want to see Brian Brohm or draft a new QB.

 

Should you decide to stick with Brohm, I wish you well!

 

Fitz is just a stop gap for the time being. I like him alot as our QB right now. This team has more holes than swiss cheese in it. In NO WAY has or will he ever be more than a back up QB option. The Bills need a franchise QB. Obviously not on our current roster. We have a long way to go to become a winning football team. One that can compete in the AFC East and the Playoffs. Fitz is a good stop gap while we get other positions in order. But in no way can you look down the road and say Fitz is gonna take you where we need to be.

[xsoldier54]

You saw about 10 games..? Haven't they only played 9, or are you from the future.? Ok, So must be I just gave it away, if your from the future, and your watching Fitzpatrick there, then must be Fitzpatrick = Bills QB Of the future..!

Counting last year, Fitz has now played in 17 games for the Bills. He is certainly better than Trent Edwards, but I agree with the poster. He has a very hard time throwing the ball accurately. He has missed some very imnportant throws and thrown some bad INT's. That is why Cincinnati let him walk and that is why the Bills should do the same. I enjoy watching him because he is able to put some points up on occasion, but he is not the answer in the long term. He is definitely an improvement over the last two QB's, but he is just not going to lead the team to the playoffs. He has the heart, just not the physical skills to do it.

Edited November 15, 2010 by xsoldier54

[KOKBILLS]

Fitz is just a stop gap for the time being. I like him alot as our QB right now. This team has more holes than swiss cheese in it. In NO WAY has or will he ever be more than a back up QB option. The Bills need a franchise QB. Obviously not on our current roster. We have a long way to go to become a winning football team. One that can compete in the AFC East and the Playoffs. Fitz is a good stop gap while we get other positions in order. But in no way can you look down the road and say Fitz is gonna take you where we need to be.

 

Agree 100%...

 

And I think it should also be noted that Fitz should be just about a perfect back-up type for a young QB...He'll have a ton of experience, he's obviously smart enough and enough of a Team guy to really help a young Franchise guy...

[zow2]

Let him walk? are you high? Yes- they will take a QB in the draft but they're not going to let Fitz walk. Have you heard Chan gush about how Fitz checked into the right play several times yesterday and this year? You can't just plop someone in that position with those kind of smarts and instincts. I'm happy the guy is our QB for now and hope they keep him for a long time...if nothing else to mentor the new QB someday.

[H2o]

I'm not a Fitz backer, but I'm also not sold on the potential QB's coming out this year. I like Luck and Mallett, but I'm not completely sold on either guy. Luck is a smart kid that disects the defense well and gets the ball out with good velocity, but I like Mallett's arm strength and overall potential. I'd take a chance on Locker, Foles, or Newton if it was 3rd round or later. My preference? Whichever one is the cast off from Philly. I'd rather have Vick, but I think it's more likely that Kolb will be the one traded or released. Hopefully he will be released because he's getting too much money to be a backup in Philly's eyes. If he was signed as a FA then we could use our picks elsewhere. A couple of impact defensive players.

[Mr. WEO]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the Quarterback situation in Buffalo. Personally, I have seen enough. I didn't say much because I needed to see 4 or 5 more games in Buffalo. I saw 4 games with the Bengals about 10 with Buffalo.

 

I am not going to make excuses anymore. This guy reminds me of rookie cop at the firing range that shoots out the water cooler.

 

I hope he gets better but if he doesn't I still want to see Brian Brohm or draft a new QB.

 

Should you decide to stick with Brohm, I wish you well!

Wang's relentless weekly Brohm crusade continues....

[PromoTheRobot]

I just want to point something out here:

 

Last night I got into a QB discussion here about Sam Bradford, and how he is already a franchise-quality QB. Yet in almost every statistical category Fitz is outperforming him. So my contention is how we feel about a QB is directly related to how high he was drafted. If we drafted Andrew Luck and he was having an identical year to Fitzy we'd be deliriously happy. But since it's 7th round journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick with the same stats we can't wait to replace him. It's no different than buying an expensive bottle of wine. It has to be better than the cheap crap because it was expensive, even if it isn't.

 

PTR

[Heitz]

Wang's relentless weekly Brohm crusade continues....

For real, this guy is becoming as annoying as another ICE...

[The Big Cat]

I just want to point something out here:

 

Last night I got into a QB discussion here about Sam Bradford, and how he is already a franchise-quality QB. Yet in almost every statistical category Fitz is outperforming him. So my contention is how we feel about a QB is directly related to how high he was drafted. If we drafted Andrew Luck and he was having an identical year to Fitzy we'd be deliriously happy. But since it's 7th round journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick with the same stats we can't wait to replace him. It's no different than buying an expensive bottle of wine. It has to be better than the cheap crap because it was expensive, even if it isn't.

 

PTR

 

 

Shhhhhhhhh, this thread is about feelings, PTR. Take your facts and go home.

[BuffaloWings]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the Quarterback situation in Buffalo. Personally, I have seen enough. I didn't say much because I needed to see 4 or 5 more games in Buffalo. I saw 4 games with the Bengals about 10 with Buffalo.

 

I am not going to make excuses anymore. This guy reminds me of rookie cop at the firing range that shoots out the water cooler.

 

I hope he gets better but if he doesn't I still want to see Brian Brohm or draft a new QB.

 

Should you decide to stick with Brohm, I wish you well!

I'm a little surprised that the Fitz bandwagon was as big as it was. Fitz is a career backup - he'd probably be the first to admit that, too.

 

This is similar to the feeling that everyone's favorite player is the backup QB. Compared to what Trent Edwards was doing for this team, Ryan Fitzpatrick is looking like Joe Montana. Don't get me wrong, it's been fun watching Fitz play with guts & heart, but when you compare him to the scared, confidence-lacking Edwards, he does look Hall of Fame-like.

 

Fitz has been with several teams for a reason. He's not terribly accurate and his arm strength is ok (not good, just ok). He showed the same "flashes" when he backed up Marc Bulger in St. Louis - if we all remember, he came on like gangbusters, but faded once defenses got a book on him. We're seeing a similar trend now...once the opposition has film on him with this offense, they can adjust and play him accordingly. He just doesn't have the physical tools (size, arm strength, speed) that a "franchise" QB has. Combine all of those with Fitz's intelligence, heart, and a good OL and you have that franchise QB.

[JohnC]

I just want to point something out here:

 

Last night I got into a QB discussion here about Sam Bradford, and how he is already a franchise-quality QB. Yet in almost every statistical category Fitz is outperforming him. So my contention is how we feel about a QB is directly related to how high he was drafted. If we drafted Andrew Luck and he was having an identical year to Fitzy we'd be deliriously happy. But since it's 7th round journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick with the same stats we can't wait to replace him. It's no different than buying an expensive bottle of wine. It has to be better than the cheap crap because it was expensive, even if it isn't.

 

PTR

 

You can do whatever you want to do with stats. There isn't an NFL scout or staffer who isn't wearing a clown outfit who would have the audacity to claim that Fitz right now is a better qb than Bradford. I'm not claiming you are making that argument. Your observation that Sam Bradford is already a franchise caliber compared to Fitz's and his better stats underscores that awareness.

 

Fitz has been in the league (I think seven years) for an extended period of time. He is a good backup at best. He will periodically show some flashes but will always level off to his average talents.

 

Will Luck or any rookie hotshot qb have less impressive stats than the more veteran Fitz? Of course. There is a developmental process which takes time. The evaluations on Fitz have little to do at the low level where he was drafted. It has everything to do with his body of work over an extended period of time. He is a good backup. Nothing more.

 

If Fitz had the arm and accuracy of Bradford to go along with his intelligence Fitz would be an all-pro. That isn't reality.

[Malazan]

would you marry Brohm already so we can stop reading these posts?

[Bob in STL]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the Quarterback situation in Buffalo. Personally, I have seen enough. I didn't say much because I needed to see 4 or 5 more games in Buffalo. I saw 4 games with the Bengals about 10 with Buffalo.

 

I am not going to make excuses anymore. This guy reminds me of rookie cop at the firing range that shoots out the water cooler.

 

I hope he gets better but if he doesn't I still want to see Brian Brohm or draft a new QB.

 

Should you decide to stick with Brohm, I wish you well!

 

 

Fitz is Fitz. Excellent leadership, not afraid to go for it, but inaccurate as a passer.

 

We will draft a QB in the first round. Fitz will mentor that QB. When that QB of the future can outplay Fitz then he will start.

 

Brohm is a backup and he will have to wait for his shot. This happens all the time. Brohm better be working hard becauase his shot can come at any time. If Fitz gets hurt or plays very poorly then Brohm gets in. Otherwise no. Brohm will at least get another look next year at camp.

 

Additionally, I think you might see a few appearances of Brohm in the last few weeks of the season mopping up a win or a loss.

 

Right now the team needs to improve and develop and build on successes. We do not need to play musical QBs so Fitz stays.

[Chandemonium]

Fitz is a career backup - he'd probably be the first to admit that, too.

Completely ridiculous. No way does a guy make it to the NFL and have the success Fitz is having this year with the mentality that he's not good enough to be anything but a backup.

[silvermike]

Fitz is a midrange starter; never going to be a top 10 guy, I think, and when everyone's healthy, he's probably going to be in the 15-20 range among league QBs. That's not terrible - those QBs regularly get to the playoffs, probably one or two most years. They rarely win the Super Bowl, and never do without incredible supporting casts.

 

I think Fitz gives us the luxury of at least calling our shot at QB - if we miss Luck, we don't have to invest a top-5 pick on a likely bust like Jake Locker. But I think we need to be on the lookout every year.

[CardinalScotts]

Fitz has played great all year, was smart yesterday- managed a game and we won.

Not sure what you see in other QB's but if you look past the top 5 QB's in the league. Your Manning Brady Rothlisburger Brees _______(insert name here). He's right in with the rest

[Buftex]

I just want to point something out here:

 

Last night I got into a QB discussion here about Sam Bradford, and how he is already a franchise-quality QB. Yet in almost every statistical category Fitz is outperforming him. So my contention is how we feel about a QB is directly related to how high he was drafted. If we drafted Andrew Luck and he was having an identical year to Fitzy we'd be deliriously happy. But since it's 7th round journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick with the same stats we can't wait to replace him. It's no different than buying an expensive bottle of wine. It has to be better than the cheap crap because it was expensive, even if it isn't.

 

PTR

 

If you guys watch other teams, you will realize, for all of Fitzpatricks accuaracy problems (which seem to pop up 2 or 3 times every game) he is playing at an above average level for current NFL QB's. You don't just throw that away. Since Jim Kelly retired, 14 years ago, we have seen 2 decent years from Doug Flutie, one stellar year from Drew Bledsoe, and a whole bunch of mediocre to awful QB play, in Buffalo. As Promo points out, there is no guarantee that any QB picked in the top 5 (where the Bills are likely to draft) is going to be better than Fitzpatrick. I am not saying the Bills shouldn't necessarily draft a QB in 2011, but I don't think it is as high a priority as it seemed just 2 months ago. I would much rather spend that pick on a top tier pass rusher, assuming he exists. As of right now, there doesn't appear to be any QB with that "can't miss" aura about him.

 

As for Fitzpatricks accuaracy issue, John Lynch made an observation during yesterdays game, which I think is pretty telling, and something I had kind of felt. Lynch said "Fitzpatrick puts everything he has into every throw, like no other quarterback." To me, that means he may be just pressing a little too hard at times...and maybe he is throwing passes a little out of his comfort level. He is overcompensating at times. To me, this seems like something he can overcome. He as much field awareness as anyone we have had at QB, in Buffalo, in some time.

[BuffaloWings]

Completely ridiculous. No way does a guy make it to the NFL and have the success Fitz is having this year with the mentality that he's not good enough to be anything but a backup.

I understand the attitude a player needs, but considering that Fitz has been with 3 teams in 6 years, do you really think that he thinks he's more than a backup? He was signed last off-season to be just that and he came into 2010 as the backup to Trent.

 

My guess is that he *wants* to be a starter and feels that he *can* start, but knows there are more talented QBs in the league that have better skills than he does. If so, this clearly doesn't deter him from putting out 130% effort every week.