Movinon Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Fredericksburg, VA is a great place to live, aside from the prices of housing, which have increased 20-25% annually for the past several years (actually great for me since I have over 100k in equity). Property taxes are low, and we probably have some of the lowest gas prices in the nation; 1.66 for a gallon of regular as of this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I can just hear Johnny Rivers belting out that classic tune...sweet. Never been to Tennessee.... Nice ? 153300[/snapback] Beautiful part of the country Mark. You owe it to yourself to check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I used to live in paradise. But they paved it. Put in a parking lot. [/url] 153266[/snapback] Thank God. The rats were out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 1.66 for a gallon of regular as of this morning. It was $1.70 on the way to work here this morning. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Tate Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 OK. New York State is a tax happy hell hole to live. How much better is it where you live ? Taxes ? Crime ? Housing Costs ? Population ? Good people ? Schools ? Weather ? Economy ? Yada yada yada... Ejamacate me on this " Paradise " you folks live in. I may move in a few years and would like to know where Paradise is located ? 153203[/snapback] Can't help you on Paradise, but since Buffalo is on the wrong end of national averages in almost every economic indicator (Income per capita, Household income, unemployment rate, recent job growth, projected job growth, sales taxes, income taxes) it is a valid concern. Buffalo is way, way below national averages in housing costs, but property taxes are higher than average and appreciation is lower - something that you would need to take into consideration. But at those prices, I wouldn't think it's a deal breaker. Crime rate actually appears high (above national average per 100,000 people for both violent and property crimes), but this is far less likely to be an issue if you're not living in an urban area of WNY. I'm sure that the burbs don't have anywhere near the crime rate. Buffalo schools spend more than the national average per student, and have a lower pupil-to-teacher ratio. Unfortunately, it is below the national averages in the number of people over the age of 25 with HS/GED, 4yr degrees, or PHD's - those people have apparently moved after graduating. Buffalo's climate - well, what can you say. I think this perceived as another deal breaker for a lot of people, but I'm not so sure that's true. Obviously a lot more cloudy days and precipitation than many places, and a lot more freezing days, but on the other hand, very comfortable temps through the summer when a lot of paradises are suffocatingly hot. But they don't have to deal with the below freezing temps through the winter, so choose your poison. Given better economic indicators, I don't think this would be as big an issue. All in all, I'd say it's the economy/taxes that does it for most people who decide to move out (or not move back). That's a pretty big issue, and can't be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I paid $150K for a 2000 sq ft. house that is 3 years old. My taxes are high (4400) but the schools are great. I'm on an acre of land. I've been at my job for four years now and it's very stable. While I complain about the taxes as everyone else here does, I'm pleased that I found a job doing what I like with a good company. Most of my family is here and that was important for me to be around. Sure things could be better....but I'm content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movinon Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I paid $150K for a 2000 sq ft. house that is 3 years old. My taxes are high (4400) but the schools are great. I'm on an acre of I pay 1,100 tax on a 200K house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I paid $150K for a 2000 sq ft. house that is 3 years old. My taxes are high (4400) but the schools are great. I'm on an acre of I pay 1,100 tax on a 200K house. 153318[/snapback] Not in this area you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 ....but I'm content. 153314[/snapback] That's what matters most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Guess they feel that just living in PA is taxing enough 153298[/snapback] Tell me about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Mo, I missed your other posts....didn't see you live if VA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Let's say for the sake of argument you're a new parent. your baby uses up 1-2 cans of formula a week at about $20 a can. She also uses up diapers at a rate of one pack a week approx $10. 153274[/snapback] So by breastfeeding, my wife is saving us $20/week...$80/month? Man, this new baby thing kinda pays for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 My sister lives in WNY. When I visited there last year, she showed me her home electric bill. When I came back home, I compared her numbers against my bill. My electric bill here is Texas averages out to 6.7 cents per kwH (includes taxes and fees). Her electric bill had taxes and fees equivalent to 8.0 cents per kwH. In other words, the TAXES on her electric bill were more than the TOTAL COST of my electric bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I bought mine for LESS than 100K in the Town Of Tonawanda. I live in a nice neighborhood. Huge backyard. 153269[/snapback] My 2400 sq. ft. 4 bedroom with 9.5 acres was under $100K too...but I'm out in nowhereville... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Riddle me this batman. Where else in the world can I move where I can get a decent 3 bedroom house in the suberbs for $150k? If you brought a suitcase full of cash containing $150k and tried to buy a 1bdrm house in WPB, you would get laughed out the door. But keep bitching. The grass is always greener on the other side. 153249[/snapback] I've lived in Florida for almost as long as you've been alive Steve, you're wrong on this one, with regard to Florida overall. I've lived in Tampa, Orlando, Naples, and Clearwater Florida. Plenty of places to live that are cost effective. Along with earning a good living. At 25 you sure know alot about Florida, living here for all of a couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 OK. New York State is a tax happy hell hole to live. How much better is it where you live ? Taxes ? Crime ? Housing Costs ? Population ? Good people ? Schools ? Weather ? Economy ? Yada yada yada... Ejamacate me on this " Paradise " you folks live in. I may move in a few years and would like to know where Paradise is located ? 153203[/snapback] Costa Rica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted December 9, 2004 Author Share Posted December 9, 2004 My 2400 sq. ft. 4 bedroom with 9.5 acres was under $100K too...but I'm out in nowhereville... 153343[/snapback] ...nowhereville is cool...anywhere around Batavia, Route 63.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted December 9, 2004 Author Share Posted December 9, 2004 Costa Rica. 153350[/snapback] Don't they have a revolution going on ? I actually used to know a Lawyer who moved there. Back then, it was great. What about now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 ...nowhereville is cool...anywhere around Batavia, Route 63.. 153352[/snapback] Yeah...unless you like all those damn trucks using Route 63 as a shortcut from 390 in order to avoid the Thruway tolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Yeah...unless you like all those damn trucks using Route 63 as a shortcut from 390 in order to avoid the Thruway tolls. 153357[/snapback] True. I grew up on 19 in LeRoy, and they'd go 390-63-19 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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