whateverdude Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) I can not believe this to be true! Is it normal for presidents to spend so much and do it in such a big way when talking a trip? WTF-34 warships? Edited November 4, 2010 by whateverdude
GG Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 I can not believe this to be true! Is it normal for presidents to spend so much and do it in such a big way when talking a trip? WTF-34 warships? Think about the larger geopolitical and economic context for a second of why US would want to send a large naval force to the Indian Ocean.
/dev/null Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 New Delhi Television I'm sure somebody will find a link between them and Fox News to prove that this is just right wing propaganda. I mean why would Obama take 34 warships when he could just hop on his trusty unicorn and ride the rainbow to India
OCinBuffalo Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 I can not believe this to be true! Is it normal for presidents to spend so much and do it in such a big way when talking a trip? WTF-34 warships? Sends a reminder that "we can kick your ass from the sea". Not a big deal to me. You have to remember that India isn't necessarily our friend. They got to the "land grab game" late, and didn't get anything. They antagonize Pakistan every bit as much as Pakistan antagonizes them. There's all kinds of trouble in that part of the world just waiting to break loose. Our navy, and the rest of NATO's, is one of the reasons it doesn't.
Mike in Syracuse Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 I can not believe this to be true! Is it normal for presidents to spend so much and do it in such a big way when talking a trip? WTF-34 warships? A typical carrier strike group is 8-10 ships so that's 1/3 of the group. There's also a number of smaller patrol type, fast attack boats to prevent a Yemen type incident. We're still actively engaged in two wars and there's a whole lot of people on that side of the world who'd like nothing more than to try and kill a U.S. President. They really don't care if he's a Democrat or a Republican, they'd just like to kill him. I have a close friend in naval intelligence. All those ships aren't there for the President's visit and almost half were already on station "in the vicinity"
Gary M Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 A typical carrier strike group is 8-10 ships so that's 1/3 of the group. There's also a number of smaller patrol type, fast attack boats to prevent a Yemen type incident. We're still actively engaged in two wars and there's a whole lot of people on that side of the world who'd like nothing more than to try and kill a U.S. President. They really don't care if he's a Democrat or a Republican, they'd just like to kill him. I have a close friend in naval intelligence. All those ships aren't there for the President's visit and almost half were already on station "in the vicinity" Man that articlehas an aweful lot of info about his travel and where he is staying.
DC Tom Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 A typical carrier strike group is 8-10 ships so that's 1/3 of the group. There's also a number of smaller patrol type, fast attack boats to prevent a Yemen type incident. We're still actively engaged in two wars and there's a whole lot of people on that side of the world who'd like nothing more than to try and kill a U.S. President. They really don't care if he's a Democrat or a Republican, they'd just like to kill him. I have a close friend in naval intelligence. All those ships aren't there for the President's visit and almost half were already on station "in the vicinity" What he said. Whoever wrote that article didn't seem to understand that the Fifth Fleet is a permanent fixture in the Arabian Gulf, and the Seventh is responsible for the rest of the Indian Ocean. That right there is a hell of a lot of ships already in the area. Obama's not "bringing them with".
drnykterstein Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 I can not believe this to be true! Is it normal for presidents to spend so much and do it in such a big way when talking a trip? WTF-34 warships? !@#$ you for wanting to put the President of the United Stats of America's life at risk so you can save some pennies on your taxes. He'll be close to terrorist territory, his safety is priority.
DC Tom Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 !@#$ you for wanting to put the President of the United Stats of America's life at risk so you can save some pennies on your taxes. He'll be close to terrorist territory, his safety is priority. Okay...this is sarcasm, right?
Chef Jim Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 Okay...this is sarcasm, right? Not yet but if/when enough people tell him he's an idiot it will be.
drnykterstein Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) No. Protect your President. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/bachmann-outraged-over-made-up-cost-of-obamas-india-trip-video.php http://factcheck.org/2010/11/ask-factcheck-trip-to-mumbai/ Edited November 4, 2010 by conner
DC Tom Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 No. Protect your President. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/bachmann-outraged-over-made-up-cost-of-obamas-india-trip-video.php http://factcheck.org/2010/11/ask-factcheck-trip-to-mumbai/ It is sarcasm. And you're still a !@#$ing idiot.
Dante Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) A typical carrier strike group is 8-10 ships so that's 1/3 of the group. There's also a number of smaller patrol type, fast attack boats to prevent a Yemen type incident. We're still actively engaged in two wars and there's a whole lot of people on that side of the world who'd like nothing more than to try and kill a U.S. President. They really don't care if he's a Democrat or a Republican, they'd just like to kill him. I have a close friend in naval intelligence. All those ships aren't there for the President's visit and almost half were already on station "in the vicinity" I don't know why any country or organization that hated the US would even think about killing this guy. I'm not even being flippant by saying our guy is doing much more damage than any of them could do. He is a ally not a foe to them. Edited November 4, 2010 by Dante
Mike in Syracuse Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 What he said. Whoever wrote that article didn't seem to understand that the Fifth Fleet is a permanent fixture in the Arabian Gulf, and the Seventh is responsible for the rest of the Indian Ocean. That right there is a hell of a lot of ships already in the area. Obama's not "bringing them with". Not to mention that the US Navy isn't exactly open to telling foreign "journalists" their travel plans! I don't know why any country or organization that hated the US would even think about killing this guy. I'm not even being flippant by saying our guy is doing much more damage than any of them could do. He is a ally not a foe to them. There's a few hundred people that have first hand experience with the capabilities of the MQ-9 that would disagree with you. Well, they would if they were still alive.........
Mike in Syracuse Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 I thought this was worth updating since it finally hit the mainstream news: "The Pentagon did not mince words in dismissing as “absolutely absurd” and “comical” media reports from Indian news outlets that the US Navy was sending 34 warships off the coast of Mumbai as part of the security preparations for President Obama’s upcoming trip to India." http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/11/pentagon-dismisses-reports-of-34-warships-for-obama-trip-security.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Nanker Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 !@#$ you for wanting to put the President of the United Stats of America's life at risk so you can save some pennies on your taxes. He'll be close to terrorist territory, his safety is priority. Rather harsh words for a Canadian, I say. Be that as it may, I hope you got one of these jobs, though you'd undoubtedly do it for free - as long as your expenses were covered, no doubt. I do agree in principle, that the US President - no matter how low his opinion polls are tracking, no matter how odious an agenda he/she's foisting on the American public - deserves to be secure at all times. That being said, I'd rather he used WebEx or GoToMeeting more. He's far too visible and when a President is visible, it costs a lot to keep him/her safe. I also don't believe the $200m price tag that's being bandied about.
/dev/null Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 Probably not since the days of the Pharaohs or the more ludicrous Roman Emperors has a head of state travelled in such pomp and expensive grandeur as the President of the United States of America. UK Daily Mail
DC Tom Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 Probably not since the days of the Pharaohs or the more ludicrous Roman Emperors has a head of state travelled in such pomp and expensive grandeur as the President of the United States of America. UK Daily Mail That article reads like it was a post written by Conner after ten minutes of googling.
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