BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 Incorrect. Last week you talked like a drunken frat boy saying Howard was flat on his face half the day... which was wrong. This week, Howard was abused routinely. Hence, criticism is justified and warranted. I second your comments. you are 100% correct!
John from Riverside Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 Howard was manhandled all day and has almost no ability in the phone booth. They can't run outside because the OT's are so bad. They must find 2 new OT's ASAP, and acquisitions like Cornell Green make the position worse. Oh for Christ sake.....there was nothing wrong with Bell's play today and his man go nowhere near Fitz
Paup 1995MVP Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 Most of the pressure came from the outside. Tamba Hali abused both OT's all day because they both are not NFL caliber. I totally agree. Howard was terrible today. The guy has NO Business starting in an NFL game. Fitzie was running for his life most of the game because of Howard. It is a joke that we have guys like Howard and Kelsay on the roster, let alone starting. We play with a lot of heart, but a lot of the roster including the starters are not NFL caliber, let alone NFL starters. Nix brought all of this on by refusing to bring in Offensive lineman with much ability. Very rarely do you see a starting NFL OT get just jacked up. But Howard has absolutely no leverage to stonewall his man. He is a very bad player. And Bell is not much better.
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 Oh for Christ sake.....there was nothing wrong with Bell's play today and his man go nowhere near Fitz He almost killed Fitz on an inside move that Bell froze on.
John from Riverside Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 You dont even know what the protection was on that play with the move to the inside..... That is what fans dont understand....depending on what the scheme was a the time it is not necessarily that OL's fault......
Doc Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 He almost killed Fitz on an inside move that Bell froze on. That's it? One pressure and Fitz "almost" got killed, but didn't?
John from Riverside Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 That's it? One pressure and Fitz "almost" got killed, but didn't? Exactly The fact is D. Bell has been consistantly good and steady this year....who did a pretty darn good job up to this point. His man very seldom gets close the QB on the pass rush and the left side has a better run blocking average then the right side. We need a legit RIGHT TACKLE.....then they need to move Wood to center where he belongs. This will protect him a bit on his obvious lack of mobility at this point. If we had someone playing on the Right side the way Bell is playing on the Left nobody would even be talking about our OT's right now
vincec Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 OL got worked, no question. It was easy to pick out Howard, but there was no running game and consistent pressure on the QB with very little blitzing needed. It's tough for skill players to work under those conditions.
BillsVet Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 That's it? One pressure and Fitz "almost" got killed, but didn't? How many hits does it take to knock out a starting QB? That Ole job Bell pulled against Hali is what OT's never should do regardless of whether the QB got killed or didn't. Howard was destroyed all day (cue the rookie reference) and Bell after 2.5 NFL seasons is slow footed, weak in run blocking, and takes too many penalties. Then again, expecting homers to know what a real OT looks like would be hard. They haven't had a legitimate NFL OT since 2008.
John from Riverside Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 How many hits does it take to knock out a starting QB? That Ole job Bell pulled against Hali is what OT's never should do regardless of whether the QB got killed or didn't. Howard was destroyed all day (cue the rookie reference) and Bell after 2.5 NFL seasons is slow footed, weak in run blocking, and takes too many penalties. Then again, expecting homers to know what a real OT looks like would be hard. They haven't had a legitimate NFL OT since 2008. Maybe we should have traded up and got Russel Okung....he is looking great right now.
Big Turk Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 Take the time to watch the game in slow motion. Howard got killed. Both of the sacks that Fitz took that were game changing came from the fact that Howard got embarrassed. The rest of line looked fine. We need a RT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Howard got manhandled today, and received poor grade last week as well from Pro Football Focus game charters(i think something like a -7.3), even though he played OK from appearances. Gailey even alluded to that the next day that he didn't grade out very well, but he did OK
Nasty Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 Seemed to me that Fitzpatrick was pressured up the middle just as much as the outside. All in all our whole OL had a bad one today. I thought our O line sucked in the first half but played pretty well in the second after some half time adjustments.
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