_BiB_ Posted December 12, 2004 Posted December 12, 2004 No, people are not naturally good. The "good" comes from ideas and ideals learned through a strong family and community base of teaching what is good, what is not so good. Once upon a time it worked to the benefit of all. Now, we are inundated with excess, technology and the cry for Civil liberty, which is euphanism for "it's OK to do whatever you want, screw everyone else". So, now the people are "good" when it serves their purpose to be that way, not because it's the way to be. Soapbox? There's thousands of examples of this going on every day. It's become normal behavior to be selfish and self centered. Most of these examples are small (try merging into DC Beltway Traffic at 4 PM), but collectively, they give a bad sign.
nobody Posted December 14, 2004 Posted December 14, 2004 What have we become? A nation of cupcakes if you ask me. The excesses in this country are obscene. We spend bazillions on stuff like Viagra, Cialis etc. while children around the world die for lack of basic inoculations. Shoot, children in our And you can house a family of 4 in each hummer.
Guest RabidBillsFanVT Posted December 15, 2004 Posted December 15, 2004 I'm not quite there yet - I keep thinking that a great leader will arise that we can all rally 'round as a nation but so far it hasn't happened. I guess we get the leadership we deserve. We have had a couple of excellent choices in McCain and Dean, but nobody wants intelligence or wisdom... they want acting, big blustery talk about stupid issues, and extremist pop-gun battles in the media. You get what you vote for!
blzrul Posted December 15, 2004 Posted December 15, 2004 We have had a couple of excellent choices in McCain and Dean, but nobody wants intelligence or wisdom... they want acting, big blustery talk about stupid issues, and extremist pop-gun battles in the media. You get what you vote for! 160865[/snapback] I agree, oddly enough I would have voted for either one although their politics in some areas are at different poles. That's why I say we get what we deserve. If this is indeed a nation of idiots, as it seems, then it's only right that our representatives be idiots.
Guest RabidBillsFanVT Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 I agree, oddly enough I would have voted for either one although their politics in some areas are at different poles. That's why I say we get what we deserve. If this is indeed a nation of idiots, as it seems, then it's only right that our representatives be idiots. 161608[/snapback] The Era of Great Statesmen(1860-1945) is now over... since the end of WWII, we have been left with the scraps of the Modern Age. Aside from the very, VERY rare exceptions, our freedom and vastly improved technology has left us devoid of principle and rationality. Could this have possibly been the case in ancient Rome? Many parallel it, including myself, but the outcome is the only proof.
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