RyanC883 Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 Ok, so in my opinion (many of you will disagree) we are set at the skill positions. We finally have a QB who can throw the ball, and as a result Lee Evans, S. Johnson, and R. Parrish look solid. We also have 2 good RB's. So, in the next draft, I think you take the highest rated O-line, D-line, or LB available with every pick in the first 3 rounds. Personally I’d weight towards drafting D-Line, LB, then O-line, unless the Wisconsin O-lineman is available in the 2nd round, then I’d grab him. After the first 3 rounds, you can grab another RB, and WR at some point (these positions can generally be filled later in the draft). Thoughts. Of course, if Luck is available, grab him, then follow the above pushing everything back a round. But i'm assuming Luck stays at Standford, unless Dallas has the 1ts pick. (since they will pay rediculous $$$).
Lucien K Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 Ok, so in my opinion (many of you will disagree) we are set at the skill positions. We finally have a QB who can throw the ball, and as a result Lee Evans, S. Johnson, and R. Parrish look solid. We also have 2 good RB's. So, in the next draft, I think you take the highest rated O-line, D-line, or LB available with every pick in the first 3 rounds. Personally I’d weight towards drafting D-Line, LB, then O-line, unless the Wisconsin O-lineman is available in the 2nd round, then I’d grab him. After the first 3 rounds, you can grab another RB, and WR at some point (these positions can generally be filled later in the draft). Thoughts. Of course, if Luck is available, grab him, then follow the above pushing everything back a round. But i'm assuming Luck stays at Standford, unless Dallas has the 1ts pick. (since they will pay rediculous $$$). Agree for the most part. I don't think Luck will leave school and don't pretend to have the knowledge as to whether Maillett is the real deal, if he is take him. Not sold on Locker, so that DL, LB and T become most prudent. Whoever is taken, needs to be sure fire prowbowl type at those positions. This also doesn't address possible trades. If possible to get 2 first round selections for where B-lo ends up in draft, I'd be for that. (I read it's hard to trade the first pick.)
PromoTheRobot Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 If (IF!!!) Fitz can maintain a high level of play the rest of the season I would seriously consider your plan. Maybe trade down for more picks if possible. PTR
RyanC883 Posted October 27, 2010 Author Posted October 27, 2010 Agree for the most part. I don't think Luck will leave school and don't pretend to have the knowledge as to whether Maillett is the real deal, if he is take him. Not sold on Locker, so that DL, LB and T become most prudent. Whoever is taken, needs to be sure fire prowbowl type at those positions. This also doesn't address possible trades. If possible to get 2 first round selections for where B-lo ends up in draft, I'd be for that. (I read it's hard to trade the first pick.) also have no clue about Mallett or Locker. If they are very solid I'd consider them at one, but i always fear taking a QB that high unless i've seen him play a bunch in college on TV (I know, not the best way to scout, but it's the only one i've got!!)
Thoner7 Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 Ok, so in my opinion (many of you will disagree) we are set at the skill positions. We finally have a QB who can throw the ball, and as a result Lee Evans, S. Johnson, and R. Parrish look solid. We also have 2 good RB's. So, in the next draft, I think you take the highest rated O-line, D-line, or LB available with every pick in the first 3 rounds. Personally I’d weight towards drafting D-Line, LB, then O-line, unless the Wisconsin O-lineman is available in the 2nd round, then I’d grab him. After the first 3 rounds, you can grab another RB, and WR at some point (these positions can generally be filled later in the draft). Thoughts. Of course, if Luck is available, grab him, then follow the above pushing everything back a round. But i'm assuming Luck stays at Standford, unless Dallas has the 1ts pick. (since they will pay rediculous $$$). I agree with your strategy except for one key element. We should do this with at least 2/3rds of said picks in EVERY DRAFT. Thats what all the good teams do.
BB Fan 4 LIFE Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 I agree with your strategy except for one key element. We should do this with at least 2/3rds of said picks in EVERY DRAFT. Thats what all the good teams do. I think our draft strategy should be to just draft whoever the experts think we should draft. We haven't tried that one in a while. And given our current results, its worth a shot.
Thoner7 Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 I think our draft strategy should be to just draft whoever the experts think we should draft. We haven't tried that one in a while. And given our current results, its worth a shot. Well yes. I was dumb to assume we would draft good players. I would prefer Mayock making our selection every time over our entire scouting staff
tonyjustbcuz Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Ok, so in my opinion (many of you will disagree) we are set at the skill positions. We finally have a QB who can throw the ball, and as a result Lee Evans, S. Johnson, and R. Parrish look solid. We also have 2 good RB's. So, in the next draft, I think you take the highest rated O-line, D-line, or LB available with every pick in the first 3 rounds. Personally I’d weight towards drafting D-Line, LB, then O-line, unless the Wisconsin O-lineman is available in the 2nd round, then I’d grab him. After the first 3 rounds, you can grab another RB, and WR at some point (these positions can generally be filled later in the draft). Thoughts. Of course, if Luck is available, grab him, then follow the above pushing everything back a round. But i'm assuming Luck stays at Standford, unless Dallas has the 1ts pick. (since they will pay rediculous $$$). Since it's simple..I'll give mine before reading the post and see if it is similar to your post: 1. Draft the best QB in the first round of the draft! 2. Draft the best OLT if any good ones are left in the second round, if not then draft the best (and probably the biggest) DT in the second round! It's really about that simple, except everyone including myself said the same thing last year, and it had no bearing on the "best available player regardless of positon" mentality of the Bills management.
tonyjustbcuz Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 (edited) Since it's simple..I'll give mine before reading the post and see if it is similar to your post: 1. Draft the best QB in the first round of the draft! 2. Draft the best OLT if any good ones are left in the second round, if not then draft the best (and probably the biggest) DT in the second round! It's really about that simple, except everyone including myself said the same thing last year, and it had no bearing on the "best available player regardless of positon" mentality of the Bills management. Okay I've read your now...and I agree about Luck so far if he comes out..I still would select a QB in the first 2 rounds, even if it means developing him for a year or two! I would prefer luck by far, but regardless I personally want a new face in the mix that isn't a 7th rounder, or stale bread from the cheeseheads! I hope Fitzpatrick continues his improvement and superb performances. Yes, I would also be open to him starting next season if he continues his performance in a sustained manner over the next 10 games! I wouldn't spend picks on RB or WR next year...don't get me wrong..more is better, but Easley really impressed me (even though he's injured) and I would like to see what he can do in the longterm at WR. On second thought, a WR in the 5th round, a high-risk/high reward player maybe! Do most of our linebackers stink or is it the coaching at that position that is subpar? I don't know..can't even remember the LB's coaches name! But regardless we probably need one or two LB's next draft. Definitely need a DT.,,A big stout guy in the middle who can plug things up and stop the run!! That should help tremendously and immediately add some wins! I would still want an OLT drafted high & either move someone else to RT where Cornell Green was before he went out...or draft someone. I'd like to think the Bills will reconsider and utilize free agency to pick up a quality OLT or ORT ! We lose players to FA, so it's someone else's turn to! Ralph needs a full pocket of cash for that to happen though, and I don't think that he will splurge! I'm sure there are other needs..maybe a Safety, a true shutdown corner as I have not been impressed this year with are CB's. They get burned too often...it could also be the design of the defense which has changed a couple of times. A lot to consider, and maybe it's not really that simple, and it may depend on many factors including Ralph's sincerity to REALLY try to right this ship, as it has been sinking for quite a while! Edited October 28, 2010 by tonyjustbcuz
Green Lightning Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 I'd draft LB, DL & OT in that order unless Luck comes out.
flmike Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 You have to be careful about value in the first round. If you don't think any of the QBs are the next coming of Jim Kelly, trade down and get 2 first round picks if you can. Take a seriously dangerous pass rushing DE or LB, then grab a big DT for middle. In the 2nd start working on depth for the OL and LBs. We don't have any.
Lucien K Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Impressive over 10 posts in and everyone is in relative agreement.
Zulu Cthulhu Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 If trading down is the mentality (and it's probably a good idea given the number of holes and lack of depth) i really hope we dont end up with #1 overall. Just too hard to find a trade partner for that slot. 2 thru 5 would be a lot easier for a potential partner to deal for.
HARCO186 Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Ok, so in my opinion (many of you will disagree) we are set at the skill positions. We finally have a QB who can throw the ball, and as a result Lee Evans, S. Johnson, and R. Parrish look solid. We also have 2 good RB's. So, in the next draft, I think you take the highest rated O-line, D-line, or LB available with every pick in the first 3 rounds. Personally I’d weight towards drafting D-Line, LB, then O-line, unless the Wisconsin O-lineman is available in the 2nd round, then I’d grab him. After the first 3 rounds, you can grab another RB, and WR at some point (these positions can generally be filled later in the draft). Thoughts. Of course, if Luck is available, grab him, then follow the above pushing everything back a round. But i'm assuming Luck stays at Standford, unless Dallas has the 1ts pick. (since they will pay rediculous $$$). I dont think Chan will go out of his way to get a qb, but the Bills really need a a defensive player in the worst way. The front seven look like a second rate college team at times. It's not by fault, but too many 4-3 players instead of 3-4. I really see a d-lineman 1st, LB 2nd, TE 3rd, D-lineman 4th, oline5th.
timba Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 If Fitzpatrick continues to look good and the D is going to be a 3-4, then a big play making linebacker is what we need first. If Fitzpatrick continues to look good and the D is going to be a 4-3, then a pass rushing DE is what we need first. If Fitzpatrick struggles then identifying a franchise qb is key and needs to taken first. Rounds 2-4 should be a combination of DL, OL, LB, maybe even a TE instead of one of the other positions.
Mike in Syracuse Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 If Fitz continues playing at his current level taking a QB would be absolutely stupid. What this team desperately needs is a player that can generate a pass rush. Whether that player comes from the draft or free agency it is our single biggest position of need.
akm0404 Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 You simply do not draft a linebacker with the #1 overall pick in the draft. You'd be the laughingstock of the NFL (well, continue to be, I guess).
The Big Cat Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 The needs at DLine are in a distant third behind the needs at OLine which are a distant second behind the needs at LB. In fact, I might so far as to say because DLine is such a distant third behind the two greatest needs, it might even rival the need for a legitimate SS.
robertpaul49 Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 In my mind, the Bills needs are the following: Defensive Coordinator. I know they have an issue with personel, but I do not think it is all personel. Quarterback: Fitz is looking good, but if the Bills can get a hall of famer, well do what you gotta do. Right Tackle: This is a major weakness. Outside Linebackers: There is no pass rush. Maybin is looking like a bust. Left Tackle: At the very least they need depth. Inside Linebackers: They need playmakers. With that in mind, if Luck come out they should grab him. Otherwise, I think they should select Marcell Dareus. They need help. I think the defensive line is serviceable, but they should reach for need so high in the first round. They need playmakers. With the second selection, they should select Joseph Barksdale, OT from LSU. Or they could go Akeem Ayers from UCLA at outside linebacker if he is available. I think they should get the linebackers in the second and third rounds since this is a good area to get quality starters. I absolutely want them to avoid Robert Quinn, who seems like another Marshawn Lynch to me, and I do not care about his talent level. Steven Friday in the third, another rush outside linebacker. Then use the two fourth round picks on TE and OT. I would be very happy if they focused on defense, then selected the quarterback in two years, since it is much easier to develop a quarterback when there is a quality team around him.
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