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Also, Fitz is basically still a young guy. He is only 1 year older than Edwards despite being in the league two additional years. Take a QB like Danny White -- he didn't do hardly anything his first 4 years in the league, but went on to become a very good QB.

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I concur with this article. We have to see how he finishes up this season. IF he continues this level of play, it is assinine to write him off simply because his name is not Andrew Luck and he was not the first pick of the draft. Production is production and franchise QB's have come from 1st overall picks to undrafted players out of small schools. If he continues to prove it on the field, there is no reason not to build around this guy. If he falls apart the rest of the way, then so be it, we can look to draft a QB in April. The rest of this season will tell us where to go from here.

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I concur with the first line in the article: "It may be too early to tell, but Ryan Fitzpatrick is starting to look like a quarterback that the Buffalo Bills could build their franchise around."

 

If he keeps this up, I say he's the man. Draft for other needs. Like DEFENSE maybe. Still way too early to tell.

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You'll never get anyone here to admit it, but QB is no longer the #1 weakness.

 

The biggest weakness is Linebacker and pass rushers

Baloney!!! I'll admit that. I'm done thinking about QB, in the short term.

 

Just finished watching the top 10 Defenses of all time....and that's what Bflo needs. Give that city a dominant defense. Draft LBs the way the Steelers do, early and often. Get 2 more Troups. Now, all that being said, if Luck is the next Elway, you take him.

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You'll never get anyone here to admit it, but QB is no longer the #1 weakness.

 

The biggest weakness is Linebacker and pass rushers

 

I completely agree with you. I'm not saying that Fitz WILL continue this level of play, but I'm also not saying that he won't. Lets wait and see, but if he keeps bringing it like he has been this season there is no reason not to build around this guy. I can't believe that people are actually calling his performance Sunday "solid" and going on to say that he once again proved that he is merely a decent backup. The guy is completing over 63% of his passes this year, and just shredded one of the better defenses in the league on the road in THEIR house.

 

The argument here should be "can he continue this level of play?" not picking apart how he has played so far. We could draft Andrew Luck #1 overall and he could have a great career and still not play at the level Fitz is currently at right now. Again, the question is: Will Fitz continue this? The rest of the season will answer that question, if so... we have our QB.

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You'll never get anyone here to admit it, but QB is no longer the #1 weakness.

 

The biggest weakness is Linebacker and pass rushers

 

I think there are a ton of people on here who subscribe to your viewpoint, including myself. At least we have most of the season to adjust our viewpoint, if needed.

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The real impressive thing is that teams know we aren't THAT explosive running the ball. I love Freddie and Spiller but they aren't the leagues premier running game yet. Therefore, Fitz is putting up some big numbers when teams know he has to throw the ball. That's impressive. Remember what would happen when Trent or JP were in throw only mode? it was a train wreck/

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You have to give Fitz a lot of credit. He plays with passion and, for a while, was one of the few Bills that seemed to care.

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Somebody is not receiving the proper credit here, Chan Gailey. His reputation is quarterback development and he has done a fantastic job.

 

If Fitzpatrick can keep this up, the Bills have eliminated the need for a QB, 2nd receiver,a new offensive line,and the Bills can focus on defense. That's would be quite an accomplishment in 3 months.

 

Seems like yesterday we needed a completely new team.

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I thought he should have been cut in pre-season, and wanted to see Brohm in there, but after what he's done so dar (63.3% passing, 969 yards, 7.6 YPA [6th in the league), 11 TD's 4 INT's, and just 8 sacks taken, in 4 starts), he's earned the right to remain the starter indefinitely. He's also young, being just 27 years old. Let's see how he develops.

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It's interesting how all of a sudden "Lee Evans is a premier receiver", as the article mentions. All it takes is for a QB to trust him and throw the ball his way and he's no longer a waste of money and trade fodder. Maybe he's not "worth" the exorbitant salary, but when he's involved in the offense he makes plays. Another thing to credit Chan for, as far as I'm concerned.

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I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but as I recall we once thought our quarterback problems were solved when we saw a guy have a really good game - he played for the Jaguars and his name was Rob Johnson - I think you know how that turned out.

 

I'd love it if we actually had a solid quarterback on our hands, but I need to see consistently solid play before I'm willing to believe that Fitzpatrick will serve the Bills any better than the last 5 guys or so......

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I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but as I recall we once thought our quarterback problems were solved when we saw a guy have a really good game - he played for the Jaguars and his name was Rob Johnson - I think you know how that turned out.

 

I'd love it if we actually had a solid quarterback on our hands, but I need to see consistently solid play before I'm willing to believe that Fitzpatrick will serve the Bills any better than the last 5 guys or so......

Do you not think Fitz has been generally consistent during each of his 4 starts this season? His QB rating was at 99 (not that stats tell the whole story) before the Baltimore game and there were some fans already calling for him to be the guy, possibly longterm. The Baltimore game was much better than his previous 3 starts but he certainly wasn't doing terribly before.

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There seems to be a lot of "if this keeps up" in this thread. I concur with that whole heartedly, but mostly because I feel like there is a strong possibility it won't keep up. Fitz has guts, is playing extremely well right now and cares, which is always nice. But is his QB rating last year was under 70, and he's never, ever been this good before.

 

Maybe Gailey has done something to him or maybe Fitz has done something, but 4 games with an 0-4 record, one of which was a bad game, one which was good and two that were really good a franchise QB does not make.

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One idea I havn't heard yet is this...

ASSUMING Fitz continues his good play, and appears to be the long-term answer at the end of the season, draft a QB, but not w/ #1 pick. grab one later, 3rd, 4th rnds or so. you'll pay him less, and he'll have the longer time needed you'd assume a lower-pick QB would need to develop.

That way you can get your pass-rusher, D-line, etc AND a QB for the future.

 

 

Maybe Gailey has done something to him or maybe Fitz has done something,

He's eating his Flutie Flakes...

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I concur with this article. We have to see how he finishes up this season. IF he continues this level of play, it is assinine to write him off simply because his name is not Andrew Luck and he was not the first pick of the draft. Production is production and franchise QB's have come from 1st overall picks to undrafted players out of small schools. If he continues to prove it on the field, there is no reason not to build around this guy. If he falls apart the rest of the way, then so be it, we can look to draft a QB in April. The rest of this season will tell us where to go from here.

Next question would be can Brian Brohm come in to back up at this spot if nessasary? Liked Ryan last year. This coach is a teacher first and a coach second. Trent was not teachable. Ryan is. If he plays the way he has through the rest of the year then they shouldnt waste the first or second or third on a QB imho.

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