Chef Jim Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Looks like he was able to overcome that handicap to a degree. I know LA had hammered you with this question but I need to add it too. How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Eitherway, the GOP still drives the country further into debt every single time they take over the presidency, it's been that way for 40 years now. Bill Clinton had a budget surplus and your boy Bush turned that surplus into a massive amount of debt. If Clinton had a budget surplus, how come the national debt went up every single quarter of his administration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 If Clinton had a budget surplus, how come the national debt went up every single quarter of his administration? Whaaaaa??? [/conner] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 24, 2010 Author Share Posted October 24, 2010 If Clinton had a budget surplus, how come the national debt went up every single quarter of his administration? Because of the Republicans in Congress /conner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) If Clinton had a budget surplus, how come the national debt went up every single quarter of his administration? Because you people believe what you want to believe, regardless of the actual information. As a percentage of the GDP it went down.. http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/downchart_gs.php?year=1992_2000&view=1&expand=&units=p&fy=fy11&chart=H0-fed&bar=0&stack=1&size=m&title=US%20Federal%20Debt%20As%20Percent%20Of%20GDP&state=US&color=c&local=s If you want more info, consult the CBO document on Clinton's good work with the budget, it's their data, not mine. Edited October 24, 2010 by conner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Because you people believe what you want to believe, regardless of the actual information. As a percentage of the GDP it went down.. http://www.usgovernm...color=c&local=s If you want more info, consult the CBO document on Clinton's good work with the budget, it's their data, not mine. You do know the budgetary process with the US government don't you? No I'm assuming you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Connor: Here is your ass. Here is a hole in the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 You do know the budgetary process with the US government don't you? No I'm assuming you don't. Lol, so when the debt goes up you blame Obama, but when it goes down Clinton does not get credit, but when it goes up it was not Bush's fault, but when it goes down Carter does not credit, but when it goes up it was not Reagans fault. Yes. Shall I assume that you think the Executive branch is not involved in the budget process at all? I'd rather not think you are that stupid, and I'll instead assume you are a brainwashed Republican zombie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) Hey here is more information to piss you ignorant haters off.. Bush's final budget had a $1.416 trillion deficit Obama's latest is down to $1.294 trillion. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69E54M20101016 Edited October 24, 2010 by conner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Hey here is more information to piss you ignorant haters off.. Bush's final budget had a $1.416 trillion deficit Obama's latest is down to $1.294 trillion. http://www.reuters.c...E69E54M20101016 Die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 So even though it rose, it actually fell because the GDP rose? What? And I thought watching conner discuss global warming/cooling/change was fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Because you people believe what you want to believe, regardless of the actual information. As a percentage of the GDP it went down.. http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/downchart_gs.php?year=1992_2000&view=1&expand=&units=p&fy=fy11&chart=H0-fed&bar=0&stack=1&size=m&title=US%20Federal%20Debt%20As%20Percent%20Of%20GDP&state=US&color=c&local=s If you want more info, consult the CBO document on Clinton's good work with the budget, it's their data, not mine. From the same site: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/downchart_gs.php?year=1992_2000&view=1&expand=&units=p&fy=fy11&chart=G1-fed_H0-total&bar=0&stack=1&size=l&title=&state=US&color=c&local=s Now answer this, you ass-monkey: if in 1999 the federal debt was 75% of $9.35T, and in 2000 the debt was 71.6% of $9.95T...how does the federal debt increasing by $110 billion represent a budget surplus??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Lol, so when the debt goes up you blame Obama, but when it goes down Clinton does not get credit, but when it goes up it was not Bush's fault, but when it goes down Carter does not credit, but when it goes up it was not Reagans fault. Yes. Shall I assume that you think the Executive branch is not involved in the budget process at all? I'd rather not think you are that stupid, and I'll instead assume you are a brainwashed Republican zombie. No I'm a person that really hates all politicians right now. You're the zombie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) Eitherway, the GOP still drives the country further into debt every single time they take over the presidency, it's been that way for 40 years now. Bill Clinton had a budget surplus and your boy Bush turned that surplus into a massive amount of debt. Can you explain how our national debt rose throughout Clinton's last term while we had a budget surplus? Im pretty much thinking that if this unsuccessful abortion is gonna continue to go this route, he be banned. Lotsa freaks, geeks and weirdos here but to purposely post crap like he does is nothing short of trolling. Same can be said about the crap you spew. Edited October 25, 2010 by EC-Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) Same can be said about the crap you spew. Who asked your parachuting-in ass to comment , anyway? You dont even know what the !@#$ we're talking about. Edited October 25, 2010 by RkFast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) If you don't use "as a percent of the GDP" how else could an economist compare our current debt to the debt of the 1930's or any other period of time? Our dollar is worth less, and you need a measure with which to gauge that. But I'm open to any other suggestions you geniuses have for comparing our current debt to our historical debts. I know you people have heard of the concept of inflation, to start simple. Edited October 25, 2010 by conner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 If you don't use "as a percent of the GDP" how else could an economist compare our current debt to the debt of the 1930's or any other period of time? Our dollar is worth less, and you need a measure with which to gauge that. But I'm open to any other suggestions you geniuses have for comparing our current debt to our historical debts. I know you people have heard of the concept of inflation, to start simple. You could use...oh, I don't know, actual dollars. For example: you could note that the national debt was $100m greater in 2000 than it was in 1999, and thereby deduce that it did not actually decrease, but rather increased. Then the question to you becomes - again - to explain what kind of a budget "surplus" increases debt by $100m. Can you explain how our national debt rose throughout Clinton's last term while we had a budget surplus? He thinks he already has. You see, even though the debt increased, since the GDP increased more the debt actually decreased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I love information. Unfortunately, the only information you've been able to find is a link to a 10-year old forecast of what MIGHT happen during Clinton's term, and that does nothing to support your statement that Clinton had a surplus. The embarrassment you must feel for providing such a ridiculous link aside, we can only conclude that your statement is, once again, incorrect until you can specifically tell us what the surplus was, and how he achieved it. http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/during_the_clinton_administration_was_the_federal.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 25, 2010 Author Share Posted October 25, 2010 But I'm open to any other suggestions you geniuses genii have for comparing our current debt to our historical debts Corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 This argument is stupid. Republicans spend like drunken sailors and say they don't. Democrats admit to spending their asses off but say the money's being spent on rainbows and unicorns. Both are !@#$ing us over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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