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By alert non-stoned Europeans who had invented neat things like refining iron. May be a lesson there.

 

And please don't give me that native Americans held the higher ground crap. Ever see a Erie Indian? No you haven't because the Iroquois slaughtered every last one.

 

I am so proud of you, you spelled everything correctly for once. :thumbsup:

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I am not BBB but I feel I can respond to this question as an outsider with insight, being that I have never smoked pot.

 

A lot of things are relatively harmless. Weed in relation to alcohol is relatively harmless on the basis that alcohol is more readily available, consumed, and misused. There have been accidents involving pot, whether someone had it fall in their lap and burn them or had their reflexes altered. Two kids I went to high school with had both of those happen.

 

To agree with this statement I would say, sure, it is correct, but handguns are relatively harmless, too. A shotgun or machine gun is harmless!

 

To answer Simon's question, I have to first say that I echo this. And, really the term relative would really need to be defined.

 

I think it is relatively safe if you compare it to hard drugs and alcohol.

 

But, to say it again, there are no free lunches with Mother Nature. She can be a B word. So, when you are doing something to alter your mind, you are certainly taking a chance, at the least.

 

At the very least, you have the things jboys mentions. And, on the scarier end, you have the things that are in the studies that keep popping up on my aol homepage. I got lucky compared to these people. I had my first panic attack after smoking it. These poor people developed schizophrenia and other psychoses while smoking it.

 

Every once in awhile one of these studies pops up when I'm surfing the net, and it seems like an incredible amount of people with these problems had pot as their first trigger.

 

Now, it can be said that I would have had panic disorder and these people would have been psychotic eventually anyway. But, this latest study and common sense seems to dictate that there is a certain percentage who would not have got to that point without the trigger....And, even if you say the others were 100% destined to develop these things, maybe the pot made the onslaught come say 3 years earlier. How much better would three more years of normal life have been. It's priceless.

 

Then, there are other subtler things, like jboys said. For example, my pot smoking hippie Socialist friend that I do business with - we were emailing each other about who she could get to do some outsourced work for her. She said her best friend would be really good at it, "but he's such a pothead that he won't want to do it." So, this was pothead on pothead bashing. She even recognizes what it can do to your motivation, etc., even though she loves it and smokes it every day.

 

So, my conclusion is that if you compare it to the odds of having harm come from hard drugs or alcohol, it would be less harmful. But, I can't even say it's relatively harmless, because if you or your loved ones were triggered into schizophrenia when they smoked pot, I don't think you'd think it was relatively harmless, at all. You'd be 100% harmed.

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To answer Simon's question, I have to first say that I echo this. And, really the term relative would really need to be defined.

 

I think it is relatively safe if you compare it to hard drugs and alcohol.

 

But, to say it again, there are no free lunches with Mother Nature. She can be a B word. So, when you are doing something to alter your mind, you are certainly taking a chance, at the least.

 

At the very least, you have the things jboys mentions. And, on the scarier end, you have the things that are in the studies that keep popping up on my aol homepage. I got lucky compared to these people. I had my first panic attack after smoking it. These poor people developed schizophrenia and other psychoses while smoking it.

 

Every once in awhile one of these studies pops up when I'm surfing the net, and it seems like an incredible amount of people with these problems had pot as their first trigger.

 

Now, it can be said that I would have had panic disorder and these people would have been psychotic eventually anyway. But, this latest study and common sense seems to dictate that there is a certain percentage who would not have got to that point without the trigger....And, even if you say the others were 100% destined to develop these things, maybe the pot made the onslaught come say 3 years earlier. How much better would three more years of normal life have been. It's priceless.

 

Then, there are other subtler things, like jboys said. For example, my pot smoking hippie Socialist friend that I do business with - we were emailing each other about who she could get to do some outsourced work for her. She said her best friend would be really good at it, "but he's such a pothead that he won't want to do it." So, this was pothead on pothead bashing. She even recognizes what it can do to your motivation, etc., even though she loves it and smokes it every day.

 

So, my conclusion is that if you compare it to the odds of having harm come from hard drugs or alcohol, it would be less harmful. But, I can't even say it's relatively harmless, because if you or your loved ones were triggered into schizophrenia when they smoked pot, I don't think you'd think it was relatively harmless, at all. You'd be 100% harmed.

 

And for the other 99.9 % of us?

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Made it up, because you're a putz and never provided one for your crusade.

But he's a putz who brags about gpa and salary numbers but won't share any backup. So he's got that.

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Made it up, because you're a putz and never provided one for your crusade.

 

You make 0.00% sense. What crusade am I actually on? I've had one position all along, and that is enough to make me have to endure your never-ending attacks and hate?

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But he's a putz who brags about gpa and salary numbers but won't share any backup. So he's got that.

 

You seriously want me to find my friggin transcripts. Yeah, I have hours to go hunting them down. Then, I'm supposed to take the time to figure out how you post something to the gallery........The funny thing is that you kept asking what school? And, on every post I make you can see my undergrad right in my avatar! :lol:

 

You also go two ways - you laugh that I said I got an assistantship, in a way that meant it's a dopey little thing. I'm not sure if you know what it means, but what it meant to me is that while my friends in my MBA program were paying $20K+ a year in tuition, the school was not only giving me a free ride, but also paying me $10K just so that I would go to their school.

 

I also said I have panic disorder. You didn't ask for proof of that. I also have a small d!ck, and am now disgustingly out of shape. I hope you don't want proof of that.

 

So, it's bragging when I defend myself from being called a stupid, worthless person by pointing to what I really am. But, the negatives I say about myself, they are what - bragging? All I do is speak the truth to the best of my knowledge. I have no reason to make anything up. I'm not a message board "persona." I'm just me.

 

And, all this is coming from a guy who goes by John Adams, then takes himself and his persona so seriously that he transforms from John Adams into Peace. Wow - where did that great John Adams go - so mysterious. :lol: And, the funniest thing is "John Adams" appears for the first time in half a year to back up Peace on this thread. "Somebody" told him about the thread. Yeah, it was such a barnburner that John Adams had to see it!

 

Yeah, you are the person that I should spend my day looking for transcripts for.

 

< Once again, my undergrad school, for those slow on the uptake.

 

Fixed.

 

I see my 0.00% was too high.

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You seriously want me to find my friggin transcripts. Yeah, I have hours to go hunting them down. Then, I'm supposed to take the time to figure out how you post something to the gallery........The funny thing is that you kept asking what school? And, on every post I make you can see my undergrad right in my avatar! :lol:

 

You also go two ways - you laugh that I said I got an assistantship, in a way that meant it's a dopey little thing. I'm not sure if you know what it means, but what it meant to me is that while my friends in my MBA program were paying $20K+ a year in tuition, the school was not only giving me a free ride, but also paying me $10K just so that I would go to their school.

 

I also said I have panic disorder. You didn't ask for proof of that. I also have a small d!ck, and am now disgustingly out of shape. I hope you don't want proof of that.

 

So, it's bragging when I defend myself from being called a stupid, worthless person by pointing to what I really am. But, the negatives I say about myself, they are what - bragging? All I do is speak the truth to the best of my knowledge. I have no reason to make anything up. I'm not a message board "persona." I'm just me.

 

And, all this is coming from a guy who goes by John Adams, then takes himself and his persona so seriously that he transforms from John Adams into Peace. Wow - where did that great John Adams go - so mysterious. :lol: And, the funniest thing is "John Adams" appears for the first time in half a year to back up Peace on this thread. "Somebody" told him about the thread. Yeah, it was such a barnburner that John Adams had to see it!

 

Yeah, you are the person that I should spend my day looking for transcripts for.

 

< Once again, my undergrad school, for those slow on the uptake.

 

 

 

I see my 0.00% was too high.

 

So, it is too hard to find your transcripts and well nigh impossible to figure out how to upload things? Are you sure you aren't a putz?

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So, it is too hard to find your transcripts and well nigh impossible to figure out how to upload things? Are you sure you aren't a putz?

 

Not even close to impossible to figure out how to upload a picture. That's why I said taking the time to figure it out. I haven't done it before, so I would have to take the time to figure it out.........And, not knowing where transcripts are that I haven't seen in almost 20 years - yeah that makes me really stupid.

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Not even close to impossible to figure out how to upload a picture. That's why I said taking the time to figure it out. I haven't done it before, so I would have to take the time to figure it out.........And, not knowing where transcripts are that I haven't seen in almost 20 years - yeah that makes me really stupid.

 

How about a paycheck stub? Do you know how to do that? Hell, even Connor could manage that much.

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How about a paycheck stub? Do you know how to do that? Hell, even Connor could manage that much.

 

I'm self-employed so I don't have paycheck stubs. And, even if I did, you'd just say I'm making it up, photoshopping, whatever.

 

Why do I have to do any of this? I've wasted way too much time on this thread as it is. I told you who I am - good and bad. You're going to believe me or not. You're going to hate me no matter what, it seems, just because I posted a scientific study about pot and told you my real-life experiences. As I said, I could care less about the legality of it, because I don't know anybody who has ever spent time in a cage for smoking pot. If people were, then I'd be for legalizing it.

 

So, what is your big beef with me?

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I'm self-employed so I don't have paycheck stubs. And, even if I did, you'd just say I'm making it up, photoshopping, whatever.

 

Why do I have to do any of this? I've wasted way too much time on this thread as it is. I told you who I am - good and bad. You're going to believe me or not. You're going to hate me no matter what, it seems, just because I posted a scientific study about pot and told you my real-life experiences. As I said, I could care less about the legality of it, because I don't know anybody who has ever spent time in a cage for smoking pot. If people were, then I'd be for legalizing it.

 

So, what is your big beef with me?

http://m.topix.com/forum/city/westminster-md/TLAFJ89A0O0TV71IU

 

Just saying.

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I'm self-employed so I don't have paycheck stubs. And, even if I did, you'd just say I'm making it up, photoshopping, whatever.

 

Why do I have to do any of this? I've wasted way too much time on this thread as it is. I told you who I am - good and bad. You're going to believe me or not. You're going to hate me no matter what, it seems, just because I posted a scientific study about pot and told you my real-life experiences. As I said, I could care less about the legality of it, because I don't know anybody who has ever spent time in a cage for smoking pot. If people were, then I'd be for legalizing it.

 

So, what is your big beef with me?

 

Bolded - Nothing really. I disagreed with your unwillingness to address other's points, so gave you crap. It really is that simple tiny.

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Bolded - Nothing really. I disagreed with your unwillingness to address other's points, so gave you crap. It really is that simple tiny.

 

Who didn't I address? I wrote out long replied to Simon's two questions....Not sure who else you're talking about.

 

So the tiny part you believe, but my grades you don't! :lol:

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Who didn't I address? I wrote out long replied to Simon's two questions....Not sure who else you're talking about.

 

So the tiny part you believe, but my grades you don't! :lol:

 

At the time I started giving you crap, you were not. It is a game, nothing personal. So frigging relax. I suspect there is a reason you freak out when you smoke weed, but stop trying to blame the weed IMO.

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