bbb Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 You've probably seen where this girl rated all her conquests, with pictures, names, attributes, etc. Here's the story: One of many articles Her full presentation: The thesis A few questions: In many articles, they say (and point that she said this originally) that frat guys make these lists of girls all the time.........Do they? I never saw a list like this when I went to school. How does somebody have the time and wherewithal to make up this stupid 42 page presentation? I assume that she went to Duke, she's got involved parents in her life. What can they possibly be thinking? I graduated in the stones ages in the mid-80s, but nobody would be telling people how much of a skank she is (even if she didn't mean for this to go viral).
KD in CA Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 (edited) How does somebody have the time and wherewithal to make up this stupid 42 page presentation? You've forgotten what it's like to be in college, haven't you? It's actually pretty clever....and funny. If a guy did the same thing about girls he nailed, everyone would just chalk it up to boys being boys. I assume that she went to Duke, she's got involved parents in her life. What can they possibly be thinking? I graduated in the stones ages in the mid-80s, but nobody would be telling people how much of a skank she is (even if she didn't mean for this to go viral). Come on, parents aren't 'involved' in the life of any kid away at college. If I had a nickle for every parent who thought their slutty daughter was a 'good girl', I could buy out Ralph Wilson and fix the Bills. In the old days when we were kids, things like this were just a lot more low-tech and didnt' get spread around the planet in a millisecond. Edited October 9, 2010 by KD in CT
Just Jack Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Here's the unedited version (nothing blacked out, names included, and a picture of the girl)
Chef Jim Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 You've probably seen where this girl rated all her conquests, with pictures, names, attributes, etc. Here's the story: One of many articles Her full presentation: The thesis A few questions: In many articles, they say (and point that she said this originally) that frat guys make these lists of girls all the time.........Do they? I never saw a list like this when I went to school. How does somebody have the time and wherewithal to make up this stupid 42 page presentation? I assume that she went to Duke, she's got involved parents in her life. What can they possibly be thinking? I graduated in the stones ages in the mid-80s, but nobody would be telling people how much of a skank she is (even if she didn't mean for this to go viral). Hmmm, interesting choice of words there.
Wacka Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 This hosebag was passed around the lacrosse and baseball teams. her "experimental method" was to go out , get s**tfaced and pick up an athlete. After the first one or two athletes, word got out that she was easy pickings. The few I read were that she hooked up at the end of the night. wonder how skanky she really looks. Yeah, I'd do her.
Nanker Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Here's the unedited version (nothing blacked out, names included, and a picture of the girl) This hosebag was passed around the lacrosse and baseball teams. her "experimental method" was to go out , get s**tfaced and pick up an athlete. After the first one or two athletes, word got out that she was easy pickings. The few I read were that she hooked up at the end of the night. wonder how skanky she really looks. Yeah, I'd do her. From the comments: IP_Esq_2 says:September 30, 2010 at 2:46 pmI was so disappointed when I read it was the brunette.
bbb Posted October 9, 2010 Author Posted October 9, 2010 You've forgotten what it's like to be in college, haven't you? It's actually pretty clever....and funny. If a guy did the same thing about girls he nailed, everyone would just chalk it up to boys being boys. No, actually I do remember - I was so lazy that I'd be cramming to get out an assigned presentation, much less taking the time to do a 42 page presentation just for the fun of it. They keep saying that frat guys do this all the time. I want to see one of those (with pictures). I really don't think that would be chalked up as boys being boys.
LeviF Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 No, actually I do remember - I was so lazy that I'd be cramming to get out an assigned presentation, much less taking the time to do a 42 page presentation just for the fun of it. They keep saying that frat guys do this all the time. I want to see one of those (with pictures). I really don't think that would be chalked up as boys being boys. I agree. I think there would be a huge uproar if a guy did something similar and it became so public.
bbb Posted October 9, 2010 Author Posted October 9, 2010 Come on, parents aren't 'involved' in the life of any kid away at college. If I had a nickle for every parent who thought their slutty daughter was a 'good girl', I could buy out Ralph Wilson and fix the Bills. In the old days when we were kids, things like this were just a lot more low-tech and didnt' get spread around the planet in a millisecond. Regarding this part, I was thinking more in terms of how can she face her parents after this. I know parents are "involved" in a college kid's life, like when they were in high school, but I'm sure they hope they did a good job.......You would think she would think "What if this got back to my parents" seeing that everything digital has that chance. I often have thought about how do porn actresses, etc. parents feel. But, I also know most of them come from effed up households anyway. But, somebody who goes to Duke - their parents most likely actually care about their kids. That was my point, and I think I worded it wrong.
bbb Posted October 10, 2010 Author Posted October 10, 2010 From the comments: IP_Esq_2 says:September 30, 2010 at 2:46 pmI was so disappointed when I read it was the brunette. I read the ending now. She thanks alcohol, for she couldn't have done it without it......I don't think she means it this way, but I think the beer goggles on the guys helped her out.
boyst Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 Why was she passed around? Why is she a whore? I seriously do not get it? What if she enjoys sex and wanted to hook up with these guys simply to enjoy their bodies while hers is pleasured? Wow, that people make these remarks = amazing. Good for this chick. She's not a feminist, she's not a "jezebel." She's honest, open, funny...who doesn't want that?
/dev/null Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 Why was she passed around? Why is she a whore? I seriously do not get it? What if she enjoys sex and wanted to hook up with these guys simply to enjoy their bodies while hers is pleasured? Wow, that people make these remarks = amazing. Good for this chick. She's not a feminist, she's not a "jezebel." She's honest, open, funny...who doesn't want that? Would you have the same opinion if this was your daughter or sister?
boyst Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 (edited) Would you have the same opinion if this was your daughter or sister? is my daughter or sister over the age of consent? Is she of sound mind, at least while sober, to make decisions on her own? I would like to think if I ever have a daughter I raise her to make decisions on her own behalf with responsibility. To not understand that there are consequences with actions. If you take that to mean sex is irresponsible, I am sorry for you. If it was my sister, just like if it was my daughter, I would be glad that she can enjoy herself, laugh at herself, and experience life. I feel bad for those who fear sex, who put too much in to it (admittingly, I do not know what too much is, though) and I mostly feel sorry for people who do not understand sex. Edited October 10, 2010 by jboyst62
Jim in Anchorage Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 Why does anyone care about this pig?
boyst Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 (edited) Why does anyone care about this pig? I think the interest in this to many is the interest that it is drawing interest. The fact that this garners 2 seconds of coverage nationally is disgusting. That this garners local news is hilarious. That it makes the internet, well, that's unfortunate. Being on the interwebs, you'd expect it juicier. I also love the clip of the woman talking about the over-sexed enviroment in the US. We're not oversexed. We're repressed. People over react to sex, asking for modesty, pretending pornography is new. Sexuality is as old as time. Also, as one woman being interviewed said something about morals. Why do my morals have to be like yours? Why must we all have the same morals. THIS is why. We want our kids to be idiots. She's not a pig, I think she's attractive. Edited October 10, 2010 by jboyst62
bbb Posted October 10, 2010 Author Posted October 10, 2010 just like if it was my daughter, I would be glad that she can enjoy herself, laugh at herself, and experience life. You cannot be serious? She's honest, open, funny...who doesn't want that? I think there's probably about 13 guys right now who don't. She's not a pig, I think she's attractive. I don't think she's either, actually........I did worse in college after 2AM, that's for sure........But, you'd think she'd be smokin' hot the way she graded her subjects.
Typical TBD Guy Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 You've probably seen where this girl rated all her conquests, with pictures, names, attributes, etc. Here's the story: One of many articles Her full presentation: The thesis A few questions: In many articles, they say (and point that she said this originally) that frat guys make these lists of girls all the time.........Do they? I never saw a list like this when I went to school. How does somebody have the time and wherewithal to make up this stupid 42 page presentation? I assume that she went to Duke, she's got involved parents in her life. What can they possibly be thinking? I graduated in the stones ages in the mid-80s, but nobody would be telling people how much of a skank she is (even if she didn't mean for this to go viral). To answer your 3 questions: 1. While casual, "off-the-record" remarks about women's bodies and sexual performances are common among frat guys, actual physical documentation of such remarks is most definitely not. 2. No idea, but I'm guessing that Ms. Karen Owen is a 12 credit-per-semester communications major and not some quadruple major engineering student. 3. Her parents are probably more concerned for their daughter's health than anything else: potential alcoholism, STD's, and date rape on top of the intense depression and shame that she is undoubtedly feeling right now. On top of that, they can't be too happy with her career prospects right now. Companies and grad schools tend to look down upon irresponsible and inconsiderate behavior (as well as disparaging comments about Asians). Why was she passed around? Why is she a whore? I seriously do not get it? What if she enjoys sex and wanted to hook up with these guys simply to enjoy their bodies while hers is pleasured? Wow, that people make these remarks = amazing. Good for this chick. She's not a feminist, she's not a "jezebel." She's honest, open, funny...who doesn't want that? You completely missed the point . It's not about her promiscuity, it's about publicly objectifying and denigrating 13 young men (particularly the young men who didn't rank so highly on her list).
boyst Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 (edited) You cannot be serious? I think there's probably about 13 guys right now who don't. Yes, as a healthy person I know I am not at fault for the results of others actions. You can say it is about who you raise them but good kids go bad and bad kids go good. I am not getting too in part. If I have a son should I be proud of him for doing the same thing? More proud of him than a daughter? I don't think she's either, actually........I did worse in college after 2AM, that's for sure........But, you'd think she'd be smokin' hot the way she graded her subjects. So, unless you're smoking hot you cannot "grade" others? Fat people, ugly people, whores, etc cannot have opinions of others and make them vocal? Do you react the same way when Wilmer Valderama released the names of all the girls he had sex with and details? You, in fact, say you did worse than her? That means you're lucky enough to grade those girls. Why can't she grade those men? NOW...on the other hand, if this is true that she had sex and rated the men, many would object to the release of their names but one should always expect everything they do to be presented to everything. As in, don't do anything you'd regret. It clearly seems like this girl at least has a slight understanding of this. In the world of internet memes, snooki's, etc this could be what the girl wants to parlay in to a future career. You completely missed the point . It's not about her promiscuity, it's about publicly objectifying and denigrating 13 young men (particularly the young men who didn't rank so highly on her list). Sorry, I missed replying to this. See the above post. I did not object to this because I believe and was somewhat raised, however poorly, that each action in life is no secret. That I should be proud of what I do and hold my head high through my mistakes. That I must realize that eventually you can count on everyone finding out everything. Edited October 10, 2010 by jboyst62
bbb Posted October 10, 2010 Author Posted October 10, 2010 Yes, as a healthy person I know I am not at fault for the results of others actions. You can say it is about who you raise them but good kids go bad and bad kids go good. I am not getting too in part. If I have a son should I be proud of him for doing the same thing? More proud of him than a daughter? So, unless you're smoking hot you cannot "grade" others? Fat people, ugly people, whores, etc cannot have opinions of others and make them vocal? Do you react the same way when Wilmer Valderama released the names of all the girls he had sex with and details? You, in fact, say you did worse than her? That means you're lucky enough to grade those girls. Why can't she grade those men? NOW...on the other hand, if this is true that she had sex and rated the men, many would object to the release of their names but one should always expect everything they do to be presented to everything. As in, don't do anything you'd regret. It clearly seems like this girl at least has a slight understanding of this. In the world of internet memes, snooki's, etc this could be what the girl wants to parlay in to a future career. Sorry, I missed replying to this. See the above post. I did not object to this because I believe and was somewhat raised, however poorly, that each action in life is no secret. That I should be proud of what I do and hold my head high through my mistakes. That I must realize that eventually you can count on everyone finding out everything. It's too late at night, I've got a Bills game to get to tomorrow morning, to answer all this, but when that Wilmer guy said all that I thought that was really a dickhead move on his part. The one thing out of all this that I do agree with you on is that she could easily have leaked this herself to get herself a Snooki type career.
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