Booger Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 for a future 4th round pick......AND now need to draft a RB.... Good thing we kept the 30 year old JACKSON who will do NOTHING for the Bills once they are competitive again..... WOW
Got_Wood Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 I think you underestimate the time Freddy has left in the tank. I say that Freddy will be good until he's 35. That's FIVE years left playing at a high level. Do you have any clue how long that is??? That means we don't have to draft another running back until 2014. Think hard about that. We have a great duo now between Jackson and Spiller! I'll miss Lynch, but this move had to be made.
MDH Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 for a future 4th round pick......AND now need to draft a RB.... Good thing we kept the 30 year old JACKSON who will do NOTHING for the Bills once they are competitive again..... WOW Everybody keeps bringing up Freddie's age. It's mostly millage, not age, that is the cause of the RBs short shelf life. Freddie doesn't have that much millage - less than Lynch actually. I'm not going to argue that age has nothing to do with it but I'd guess that Jackson only has a a year or so less productive years than Lynch - and he's a much more productive player averaging a half yard more than Lynch per carry over their careers.
b stein 22 Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 for a future 4th round pick......AND now need to draft a RB.... Good thing we kept the 30 year old JACKSON who will do NOTHING for the Bills once they are competitive again..... WOW Freddy has barley played in the nfl. I know he is old for a running back, but his body does not shows it.
CountDorkula Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 I think you underestimate the time Freddy has left in the tank. I say that Freddy will be good until he's 35. That's FIVE years left playing at a high level. Do you have any clue how long that is??? That means we don't have to draft another running back until 2014. Think hard about that. We have a great duo now between Jackson and Spiller! I'll miss Lynch, but this move had to be made. I think you Overestimate it. 30 is 30 the body wears no matter what, whether you are playing football or not. Plus Jackson is a small back at small backs dont last that long in this league anymore. FYI we turned a number 1 into a 4th rounder. . .
Got_Wood Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 I think you Overestimate it. 30 is 30 the body wears no matter what, whether you are playing football or not. Plus Jackson is a small back at small backs dont last that long in this league anymore. FYI we turned a number 1 into a 4th rounder. . . I'm not completely happy with what we got for him (depending on the conditional pick). And I'll miss his style of play and personality out on the field. But this is great for him, and it's good for us. We've got 2 quality running backs that we can use more of now. And Marshawn gets to move out west where a team can use him and his talents. And he gets to play with a close friend, so I'm happy for him. Remember, our high 3rd rounder and one of our 4th rounders could easily become another 2nd round pick this year. (If we have the balls to make a trade).
thewildrabbit Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 Now all they need to do is trade Lee Evans and the dismantling will be almost complete
marauderswr80 Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 we'll get to see more Spiller and freddy.... yes we traded a first rounder for a 4th, but we also traded a pro bowl player for a 4th. way to go you jackasses running the Bills. Just another reason for me to say phuck you bills.
Got_Wood Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) I will add that trading Lynch and extending Kelsay would NOT have been something I would have wanted to do. Edited October 5, 2010 by Got_Wood
billfan63 Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 for a future 4th round pick......AND now need to draft a RB.... Good thing we kept the 30 year old JACKSON who will do NOTHING for the Bills once they are competitive again..... WOW Since Fred will be 70 when the Bills get competitive its irrelevent
Punch Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 Plus Jackson is a small back at small backs dont last that long in this league anymore. Jackson is listed at 6'1" 215 lbs, as opposed to Marshawn at 5'11" 215 lbs. The difference is pretty negligible, but Freddie is definitely not considered a small back.
Throwback Bills Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 I think you Overestimate it. 30 is 30 the body wears no matter what, whether you are playing football or not. Plus Jackson is a small back at small backs dont last that long in this league anymore. FYI we turned a number 1 into a 4th rounder. . . Kevin Faulk with New England is 34 and and averages between 4-5 yards per carry and 40+ catches. Every year. Feddie is the best blitz pick back we have and if he splits the carrys, 34-35 is not out of the question. Just saying.
KD in CA Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 Hopefully we'll be able to get as much for Spiller in two years when we draft our next first round RB.
Cash Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 Everybody keeps bringing up Freddie's age. It's mostly millage, not age, that is the cause of the RBs short shelf life. Freddie doesn't have that much millage - less than Lynch actually. I'm not going to argue that age has nothing to do with it but I'd guess that Jackson only has a a year or so less productive years than Lynch - and he's a much more productive player averaging a half yard more than Lynch per carry over their careers. I dunno about that. Even when Fred wasn't in the NFL, he was still playing professional tackle football. I agree that mileage is what counts, but saying Freddie has low mileage is like not counting miles driven on dirt roads.
DarthICE Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 for a future 4th round pick......AND now need to draft a RB.... Good thing we kept the 30 year old JACKSON who will do NOTHING for the Bills once they are competitive again..... WOW WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
zonabb Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) I think you Overestimate it. 30 is 30 the body wears no matter what, whether you are playing football or not. Plus Jackson is a small back at small backs dont last that long in this league anymore. FYI we turned a number 1 into a 4th rounder. . . Do you buy a car and sell it a few years later for the same as you paid for despite the higher mileage and assorted other issues? Than why is a football player any different? Edited October 5, 2010 by zonabb
purple haze Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 for a future 4th round pick......AND now need to draft a RB.... Good thing we kept the 30 year old JACKSON who will do NOTHING for the Bills once they are competitive again..... WOW They don't need to draft a RB unless they see one they want. Jax is a good player. Spiller is the future. RB's are not hard to find. RB's with Spiller's explosion are hard to find. I wish they could have gotten more for him, but that wasn't going to be the case. People act like Nix turned down a great deal for the Seattle deal. If he took the Seattle deal it was the best one he could get. They took what they could and moved on. No reason to whine about this. They are rebuilding. Draft picks are gold. Lynch might not be the last player to move. I'm sorry to see him go, but it is what is.
ganesh Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) I think you underestimate the time Freddy has left in the tank. I say that Freddy will be good until he's 35. That's FIVE years left playing at a high level. Do you have any clue how long that is??? That means we don't have to draft another running back until 2014. Think hard about that. We have a great duo now between Jackson and Spiller! I'll miss Lynch, but this move had to be made. Without upgrades to the line, Jackson has no chance to play at a VERY HIGH LEVEL until he is 35. The only positive I take from the trade is that the Bills would not have been able to re-sign Lynch once his rookie contract expired and we would have lost him 2 seasons from now. Edited October 5, 2010 by ganesh
akm0404 Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 With running backs, it isn't about how many hits they take, it's about the body's natural degeneration in terms of explosiveness and elusiveness. The reason why young running backs come in and make big splashes (Johnson, AP, etc.) is because their bodies are primed for the quick-twitch style movements that make them successful. Jackson is great and all, but there is a reason why 30 is a death knell for NFL running backs. And it isn't because of mileage. It's because they stop being able to elude tacklers. Lynch was just whatever, but I think we'd have been situated better with a rookie and 24-year old running back, rather than a 30-year old back in the twilight of his career alongside a situational-type 10 carry back in Spiller.
tecmobowlbills Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 That wasn't my wish...He is a good player.
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