ExiledInIllinois Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 (edited) No need to rage againt me, I agree more could be done - and that its silly how it played out on both sides. I was simply discussing the idea that saving a life and saving some wood and nails, as much as they might mean to the owner is NEVER the same thing. This man will live to rebuild, and for that reason I don't agree that fire service 100% equates to EMS life saving services. I'm still curious the insurance and liability issues but it seems its down to just a couple of us talking and none of us have that answer. Regardless some waivers would likely remedy this if they wanted to arrange that upon arrival. I just don't think it's quite as simple as its been framed, and I hope theres more to the decision then spitefulness over the $75. If thats all it is, its disgusting but I suspect some sort of underlying issues that none of us have the background in fire fighting, area politics/laws, etc... To fully grasp. Similarly if one of these firefighters somehow lost there lies in a freak accident and his family wasn't cared for because of laws or policies in place I would also be disgusted. I am not raging against you... Just against this silly trend in society. They were there, they had the hoses going and they do this? I mean WTF! I mean, a fire is raging and they are wetting the soil. Huh? That to me sounds like a score and yes, they were just following "orders"... What other stupid "orders" will some in our society follow? Is there a lack of education down there? It sure sounds like it. If I was the insurance company... I would try and sue the FD. Again... They were right there with hoses going... I mean, my 12 year old son and 8 year old daughter would know what to do. Yes, the wife is difusing the situation and not blaming the crew... But come on... This is a no brainer. The chief must be a robot. Turning a hose 180 degrees around from the ground is really gonna hurt somebody? Anyway FD had the police come and escort the man off his property... WTF was that about? I can just see it now: "Put down that garden hose, you are getting unruly... You are coming with me... You are bothering the fire crew wetting the soil." Talk about rubbing salt in a wound! Edited October 8, 2010 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Not buying the town line argument - do EMS services stop at the town line? I don't see how this is much different - it is a public safety issue and falls within the common good of the municipality. Yeah, they may be rural, but obviously not rural enough to not make any fire service impractical - the neighbors were overed (if you have a cabin way out in the wilds of Montana or Alaska I can see your point). The problem is that nobody wants to do what should be done and actually tax people to provide this type of service. I can bet some tax cutting politicians cut the service so that each person in town could save $23 a year and anybody who thought about doing the right thing and taxing for it would have been blasted as some evil monster who wanted to raise your taxes. This is what happens when you let politics dictate public safety policy and have people who believe the only benefits government should provide are those they directly use, common good be damned. Wait, are you arguing for more government intervention or less? Or just the government intervention you agree with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 "It is not desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right. The only obligation which I have a right to assume is to do at any time what I think right.… Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents of injustice." ~Thoreau We can all agree, letting a man's house burn down while you watch with all the resources available to put that fire out... Is unjust. Well I hope we can agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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