mead107 Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 If luck should have it, we could be lucky to get luck. Still not sure who I would like to see us drat. I am going to have a draft tonight at the bar.
gfalk87 Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 You guys have got to find these Quarterback threads funny. Buffalo fans are determined to find that franchise quarterback and any thoughts otherwise will draw a severe bashing. This happens every year and last December it was Clausen. He will surely go #2 in the draft right behind Bradford.Yea right! Bradford was the class of the Quarterback pool. There is nothing close this year. Sorry guys I understand the fact that it's way to early to talk about who is going to be the top quarterback at the end of the year, but you're wrong to think that no one compares to Sam Bradford this year. From the way scouts are talking, Andrew Luck (if he comes out) projects to be an even better qb than Bradford. I know there is no way to predict how it will play out, but I can't see the Bills having a top five pick and not selecting a qb. We have a lot of needs, but quarterback should be number one on the list. I just cant see how the Bills can justify going another season with either Fitz or Brohm as the starting qb.
Another Point of View Posted October 1, 2010 Author Posted October 1, 2010 How is Mullett better then Brian Brohm? Think Carefully before you comment
gfalk87 Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Ahead of Sam Bradford? Yes Jake Locker was being projected ahead of Bradford last year.
GG Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 I understand that, Bill - in fact, where don't the Bills have issues? JMO, but I honestly believe the franchise if moving in the right direction and that it's also not outrageous to think we'll finish 8-8 either. Maybe better, now that we have a QB that will at least try to throw downfield if we're behind with a minute left. He did that to a D that was torched by other QBs. Maybe the offense comes around, but I can't say the same about the D as the bodies keep falling. After watching the action around the league after 3 weeks, I'd be hard pressed to find 4 wins this season for the Bills.
Another Point of View Posted October 1, 2010 Author Posted October 1, 2010 Yes Jake Locker was being projected ahead of Bradford last year. Then I need to spent more time watching Locker, I see an Average Pro Quarterback but I could be wrong.
pBills Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 I bet the top three QBs can be drafted early in the 2nd round. Bills need to go with a beast OL. If they go QB, they better upgrade the OL and add another WR.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 This years crop of QB's does not rank a low #1-#3 selection in the draft. There is no Peyton Manning, Sam Bradford, John Elway. I hate to ruin your plans but the Bills don't need to lose to move up in the draft. Truth is I would take Fitzpatrick or Brohm over any of these guys. Since you can't name any of this "years crop of QB's" you obviously haven't watched any games this year because Luck was better than our QBs last year and Mallet has more talent than all of ours combined.
McBeane Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Hey Dan, we agree! I like some of these guys but SOME fans are talking about investing the #1 overall pick on an "Above average class of QB's. Now if a Manning was availble or a Bradford, then go for it! Wasting a top #1 for these guys will solve nothing! Do you realize how ignorant you sound saying Bradford = Manning right now? The kid has played in 3 games so far, I think it's a little quick to put him in the Hall of Fame, don't you?
gfalk87 Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Yes after the season Locker had last year, he was projected as a high first round pick, but if you have watched him this year you might have a different view. I understand if everyone is not sold on one of the qb's yet, but if at the end of the year Luck, Mallet or Locker are considered to be elite qb's and lock top ten picks I can't see the Bills passing on one of them. I understand the point of drafting the top offensive tackle, but until you get a quarterback nothing will change in terms of competing for a playoff spot. Look at Cleveland who has a franchise left tackle (Joe Thomas), but continues to be at the bottom of the league every year. You can win with an average offensive line (see the Colts), but you need a top qb. At the end of this year if none of the top qb's project high, than you take a position of need. Eventually the Bills need to stop signing back-up qb's and drafting projects, they need to get a franchise qb.
Thoner7 Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 The thing I hate about these threads are idiot fans thinking players like Locker are first round locks when in reality they sucked all along and still continue to suck, yet they are still "first round locks" - The NFL commitee of whatever that crap is called didnt even give locker a first round grade.... WHICH IS WHY HE DIDNT DECLARE.
Bob in STL Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 This years crop of QB's does not rank a low #1-#3 selection in the draft. There is no Peyton Manning, Sam Bradford, John Elway. I hate to ruin your plans but the Bills don't need to lose to move up in the draft. Truth is I would take Fitzpatrick or Brohm over any of these guys. Did you just buy a magazine?
Williams+Williams+Williams Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 You are crazy! Why would you want Fitzy or Brohm over one of the top qb's in this draft. And by the way if Jake Locker came out last year he would have probably been the first pick over Bradford. This is a quarterback driven league and if you can get a stud you will be set for years. You find your qb and build your team around him. You can use the Colts as an example, who have an average o-line, but have one of the best qb's in football. I just don't understand why you would want to stick with Fitzy or Brohm, who are average back-ups at best. Peyton manning is possibly the best qb ever. Ur example is not even close to reasonable. Is this you russ brandon?
Mr. WEO Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Yes Jake Locker was being projected ahead of Bradford last year. Prove it.
transient Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Personally, I'd rather see BPA in 1st and take a chance that one of the QBs in a deep class will be there in 2nd or 3rd if a QB isn't BPA, especially if one doesn't separate himself from the pack. Regardless of Bama, those arguing for Mallet should take a look at the abysmal second half of the Georgia game minus the last drive. As for Bama, he gave them the points... those were some pretty ugly picks to throw when your team is up by 13. Unlike the broadcast team who thought he was trying to throw the ball out of bounds at the end, I think he was trying to hit his back. He's got the balls to throw and a good arm, but his accuracy needs work. For those saying we can't go through another season with Fitz, unless Brohm steps up I think we do just that (unless whoever we draft progresses really quickly). No sense throwing a rookie to the wolves before he's ready when you have a QB with second string talent but a good (albeit, crazily huge) head for the game to set the perfect bar for when to put your "future" into the game. Let him learn how to "think" NFL football behind Fitz for a while, and put him at the point that he gives you a better chance to win.
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Yes Jake Locker was being projected ahead of Bradford last year. No, he wasn't. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/18/locker-didnt-get-a-first-round-grade-from-advisory-committee/ "As pointed out in the Associated Press article regarding Locker's decision not to forgo his final season of college eligibility, Locker had submitted his name for consideration to the NFL Collegiate Advisory Committee, which estimates where a player might be drafted. Despite a proclamation by ESPN's Todd McShay that Locker would/should/could be the first overall pick, a league source tells us that Locker didn't receive a first-round grade from the Advisory Committee."
The Senator Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 He did that to a D that was torched by other QBs. Maybe the offense comes around, but I can't say the same about the D as the bodies keep falling. After watching the action around the league after 3 weeks, I'd be hard pressed to find 4 wins this season for the Bills. Well we all have our opinions. I guess my crystal ball isn't as clear as some others, what with 13 games to be played and the Bills tied with 4 teams, within 1 win of 9 others, w/in 2 wins of still 15 more, and only 3 games back of the league's last 3 undefeated teams. Some people 'throw in the towel' a lot sooner than others, I guess.
TheChimp Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 (edited) This years crop of QB's does not rank a low #1-#3 selection in the draft. There is no Peyton Manning, Sam Bradford, John Elway. I hate to ruin your plans but the Bills don't need to lose to move up in the draft. Truth is I would take Fitzpatrick or Brohm over any of these guys. That is both enlightening and simultaneously meaningless to me. Because if the Bills simply use the next draft to improve the pass rush DL, run stopping DL, and all the LB positions, I'd be more than happy to wait another year for the Superman QB. Edited October 2, 2010 by TheChimp
Big Turk Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 This years crop of QB's does not rank a low #1-#3 selection in the draft. There is no Peyton Manning, Sam Bradford, John Elway. I hate to ruin your plans but the Bills don't need to lose to move up in the draft. Truth is I would take Fitzpatrick or Brohm over any of these guys. Bradford was considered a worse prospect than 3 or 4 of this years QB coming out...
KOKBILLS Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 How is Mullett better then Brian Brohm? Think Carefully before you comment Ryan Mallett, like it or not, is going to get serious consideration for the #1 overall Pick...He is almost assured to go in the Top 5...Keep in mind he's only a Jr. and he has definitely gotten better every year...Granted Brian Brohm was once considered a potential high 1st Round Pick...But he ended up being a 2nd Round Draft Pick that could not beat out a 7th Round Pick to be the back-up in GB...Now...Maybe Brohm will turn out to be a good NFL QB...It's still possible...But at this point, when you're talking about purely potential, there is no comparison between Mallett and Brohm...And until Mallett comes into the NFL and underachieves the way Brohm has (up to this point) that's going to stay the same... Mallett clearly has the stronger arm and is a bigger dude...Both are being Coached in the same College system, the difference is Mallett is going up against superior competition...I don't think either one is a great scrambler, but I guess Brohm would get the edge there...It's still early, but Mallett is projected to throw 30 TD's and complete almost 69% of his passes...If that happens he ends up with a slightly better Season than Brohms Sr Year...But only slightly... So I guess the answer to your question is that at this point there is really no telling if Mallett is better than Brohm or not...But if The Bills have a chance to draft Mallett they better be 150% sure Brohm is better should they decide to pass...Cause they simply can't afford to be wrong on this one...
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